Message board section for PocketPC City

[Bob_Katayama]

I hope the returning users of the PocketPCCity.com's forum
are not too disappointed by the reduced forum sections.
The decision is out my hands. :-(

I will try and do what I can to help whenever possible
as I have been doing on the previous forums.

Thanks

Bob

[steve45]

Can we view old threads? How?

So far, I can't find anything and I really don't like this site.

[Bob_Katayama]

The old messages are nolonger available.
internet.com decided not to archive them.

Sorry but this was not possible. . .
New software and all. :(

[steve45]

There was a lot of valuable info on the old forums. I can't believe you guys would just trash it with no warning and expect people to come back. Why bother to post anything here, it might be gone next week?

[Bob_Katayama]

I do understand your frustrations and agree totally with your
decision to move on.

I as a moderator was only informed last Thursday of the
pending changes. I was not consulted in anyway during
internet.com's decision making process.

Any conerns or comments should really be directed towards
internet.com.

I wish you all the best in the future.

[Thinkingman]

I feel the past posts were very valuable. certainly it could have been placed on a cd rom and to the very least sold at a cheap price for those who really wanted all of that back info. It was very useful info.
I dont mind hte new set up but the onlyproblem is that there isnt enough history here from past posts. It is all new and fresh. I am glad Bob is still around, I always enjoyed his input into questions and topics.
It seems to me that they were trying to keep up wiht the other pda sites but without letting anyone know it was such a bad idea.

[ctitanic]

PHP Nuke is very flexible and It's is better than what we have before. But.... to have all users posting in the same forum no matter what PDA they have is insane. Different PDAs have different problems. Usually I like to stay concentrated in one topic, one pda to get as much information as I can for that particular PDA. Having this mess is very difficult to find anything you need or to keep track of what is going on with one PDA. I have been participating in the old Forum under Tweaks2k2 username and I posted many, many messages in e740 board, iPaq board and Casio board helping others. But I feel that this way is only making me to spend more time that what I can so I will have to say GOOD BYE to this forum if they don't change it for the best and for what users really want. :mad:

If you don't know how to organize a FORUM, please take a look of Brighthand.

[Demigod121]

I am very disappointed at the decision to change the board format.

I agree with everyone else that the prior posts contained a LOT of good information, and not saving those was a very BIG mistake. Also, now I have to filter through all the other PDA posts to get to the one's I'm interested in. :rolleyes:

Sorry gang, but I'm off to greener pastures....I'm already on other boards where they break the boards down by the different PDAs...seems only logical. Now it looks like I will have one board less to lurk about on! :(

I may or not be back - but I feel the admins should have run the idea past us users first.

Demigod121

[DScott]

Greetings;

I am and have been registered on a few boards and they all seem to have the same set-up. Soonly I hope everyone will realize that and return here. I also hope that James will take some of the critiques to heart and try to make this board a standout like it was. Bob_Katayama is still here and he has helped me numerous times by his answers to others postings. Everyone must realize that change will happpen and they need to accept that.
Listen to Bob and stay.

Man I am tired of hearing all the whining, buck up campers. I almost feel the need to insert a cheese joke here.:D

Thanks

[pmshah]

I have been informed by the Editor himself that all the past posts & discussions will available on line in searchable archive format.

So if that is true then what have we lost ? Perhaps some of the currently active threads & links ? That is not such a big loss as it should soon be available in the archives.


For those who are in need of asssistance or sharing new information can start new threads here & now.

Remember it is human nature to resist change to anything in life that one finds comfortable. Lets not be too hasty & give the management a chance to resolve readers'/viewers' complaints & opinions. If after some time you are still uncomfortable there is nothing to keep you from moving on.


One big plus I must admit to is that one can now post images which will make life a whole lot easier for a whole lot of people.

I think I am going to hang around for a while & see how this forum progresses & the promises are fulfilled.

[Primaz]

Bob,

I am sorry to read your other posting about you leaving the site:( Also you should have posted you were interested in a 7 series Jornada; I just sold my 720 for 500 with an extra battery, well over 500+ dollars worth of software and more as I upgraded to the 728.

Anyway I agree, this site is poorly managed. I came to the site when it was cecity and was hooked because of the huge amount of forums that were moderated by good poeple like yourself! and when a new piece of hardware came out a new forum came out to support it! You could get a response to a posting in a day or so almost guranteed.

If this site does not bring back ALL of the forums for CE I am likely to leave and find a Jornada 720/728 forum as generalized forums are of no value and are a dime a dozen. There are many ce sites like that; can't these idiots understand they had a rare site where the users amounted to well over 25 thousand per month or more and their poor judgement has almost devasted the site to a very average to below average site. They better wake up or find themselves at the cheese line.

[pmshah]

I entirely agree with your point of the forum turning into a generalised one.

PPC has practically no compatibility with PocketPC or neither has any similarity to HandHeldPC. Same holds true for different brands.

I just hope & pray that for its own good this forum once again morphs back into its original form & soon !!!!!

[bettyboop]

I am new as a registered member but I enjoyed checking
the posts for assistance. The board's new software does
make things bettter from a users stand point but the actual
content lacks.

The actual content is created by the users. Not the moderators
or the software. When I say "not moderators", I say the
current moderators. I wish the previous moderators would
return and provide their input into the mix.

This is what made PDAStreet.com what it was.
The old modertors like Bob, made this place uniuqe.

[Pilot]

I'm a long-time frequenter for the NEC message boards here, and having read all the hoopla about the new message board system I have to ask, "So...what's the problem?"

Okay, it's a new message board software package. I seriously doubt that most of you would own a PDA, H/PC, or PocketPC if you were not at least a little technically proficient. Geez....I would hate to have been around you folks when everything converted from DOS to Windows!

Also, about this "no moderator input" thing...I hate to break it to everyone, but this site is NOT the property of the users or even the moderators. Yeah, the theory behind message board sites like this is that when we come in as customers to view the message boards, we'll see other things (ads, products, page hits, etc.) which will generate revenue for the site, but the users probably benefit more by this service. I'm sure the webmaster/owner appreciates the service of the moderators in the past, and okay, maybe it was a little rude to not at least notify you moderators more ahead of time, but I don't think it was necessary to ask for your input.

So how about showing some appreciation for the webmaster/editor/owner/etc. and just continue to enjoy the website? The old messages are still accessible, and the new forums are just waiting to be populated with new messages. The new software looks and performs great, and even though I lost my favorite MobilePro 750c message board (separate from the general NEC one), I like the more streamlined config of this message board system, and I'm sure it's a lot easier to maintain in this configuration (which is probably why they no longer need so many moderators).

Sorry for the mini-rant, but I've been on both sides of this situation and think that we users of this site should be a little more thankful to the PDAStreet.com folks for everything they've given us and continue to give us...for free, I might add.

[bettyboop]

I think the problem is that "where's the original moderators"
for the Windows CE section of the forums?

The moderators were never consulted before the change
and I feel that they should have. Being on the frontlines and all.
Most of the people that made the final decisions only visit
occasionally:) This really applies to PocketPCCity.com which
started out as Windows CE City and now part of PDAStreet.com.
The site has been around too long to really say what you have
said about forums in general.

If the Windows CE forums were part of PDAStreet.com from
day one then "YES" I would agree but this is not the case.

No wonder there are no former moderators currently associated
with the Windows CE sections of the forum. The new software
is great but it is not the owners that make the software or
really the usefullness of the forums what they are.
It's the users and moderators.

Have you noticed how many non internet.com people moderate
the Windows CE scetion compared to the other forums like
the Palm sections?

Why does the Palm section have more messages posted?
It's the users and the number of non internet.com associated
moderators that make the forums ROCK.

[Pilot]

I could be wrong because I did come to this site originally via WinCECity.com, but hasn't it always been associated with/part of PDAStreet.com? I think where the forum software physically resides should not be of any consequence or worry to the PocketPCCity site visitors.

The entire strategy seems simple to me -- the owners/webmasters of this group of sites has decided to consolidate their message boards into one system, which is most likely easier to maintain, so the moderators that were previously needed with the old system may not be needed any longer. Again, my experience is with the NEC sections, but if I'm not mistaken, we didn't have a distinguishable moderator until well after the conversion to PocketPCCity from WinCECity. Other specialty groups may have had more active or formally announced moderators. I guess what I'm getting at is what is the big deal about a moderator position or two going away here? Is it that they feel "fired"? Are they losing money or some other monetary compensation by not being moderators any longer? Is it a pride thing? What is the big deal? They were volunteer MODERATORS, not site owners, webmasters, etc.

Everything changes, folks! There's nothing wrong with this new message board system -- it's actually more familiar to me (since it's like so many others out there) than the previous one that was in place, and also has a lot more features. I think the former moderators need to get over the bruised ego thing and if that means the former moderators pack up their toys and go to another playground (and even if they take some users with them), so be it. I'll be staying here because this is still the best PDA support site on the web, and probably will remain so even if a mini-exodus occurs, led by some former moderators.

Quite honestly, I feel that anyone using this site to announce plans of going somewhere else is just rude and inappropriate to do to the site owners/webmasters. I smell a majorly overblown power trip. I hope these same disgruntled moderators don't volunteer at local hospitals and then get mad when a doctor makes a surgical decision without consulting them....geesh!