alexandr0s
09-11-2002, 07:42 AM
Just one simple question: can you connect a gold card modem to the mc218? And if yes, what do you need to connect it? (Thanks in advance)
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MikeMcC
09-11-2002, 08:27 AM
Yes you can and you need the "Psion PC Card Adaptor".
This is a little device with a cable and "Honda" plug (the same as that on the PsiWin cable) which goes into the MC218's serial connector. The device itself is a similar size to a computer mouse with a slot for the PCMCIA modem card and it is powered by either 4 x AA batteries or the mains power unit for the Series 5(mx).
If using the the mains power supply, you must use one rated at 1000mA, similar to the Psion one, as it powers the Adaptor, Modem card and Computer simultaneously.
The "PC Card Adaptor" is no longer produced so you would have to pick it up in the second hand market. Also, it only supports modem cards, it cannot be used with other PCMCIA devices such as storage cards or network cards.
This is a little device with a cable and "Honda" plug (the same as that on the PsiWin cable) which goes into the MC218's serial connector. The device itself is a similar size to a computer mouse with a slot for the PCMCIA modem card and it is powered by either 4 x AA batteries or the mains power unit for the Series 5(mx).
If using the the mains power supply, you must use one rated at 1000mA, similar to the Psion one, as it powers the Adaptor, Modem card and Computer simultaneously.
The "PC Card Adaptor" is no longer produced so you would have to pick it up in the second hand market. Also, it only supports modem cards, it cannot be used with other PCMCIA devices such as storage cards or network cards.
wanman
09-11-2002, 08:43 AM
There is one up for sale on Ebay at the moment. Check out link
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2050569198.
Current price is £6.50 which is a bargin !! But hurry along as there is only 6hrs to go !!
Si
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2050569198.
Current price is £6.50 which is a bargin !! But hurry along as there is only 6hrs to go !!
Si
alexandr0s
09-11-2002, 08:56 AM
Have you ever used a gold card modem with a 5mx/mc218? I'm only asking because I was thinking of buying one as an alternative (hopefully cheaper) to the travel modem. Will it do the job equally well you think?
Oh, and cheers for the ebay tip.
Oh, and cheers for the ebay tip.
MikeMcC
09-11-2002, 10:54 AM
My only experience of using the PC Card adaptor and a PCMCIA modem was when someone had a problem and sent me the kit to play about with. I got it working and it it was OK.
I have the Travel Modem and do think that is more convenient, but if you can pick up the Adaptor and a Gold Card cheaply enough, go for it.
You can, of course, also use an external PC modem with your MC218 although this would require access to a mains supply close to the phone point - it depends how portable you need to be.
I have the Travel Modem and do think that is more convenient, but if you can pick up the Adaptor and a Gold Card cheaply enough, go for it.
You can, of course, also use an external PC modem with your MC218 although this would require access to a mains supply close to the phone point - it depends how portable you need to be.
alexandr0s
09-11-2002, 11:12 AM
Thanks Mike. As always, you've been most helpful.
Something tells me that whichever way I go, I'll be back here asking for help anyway!
Something tells me that whichever way I go, I'll be back here asking for help anyway!
wanman
09-11-2002, 02:27 PM
Hi Alexandr0s,
I have used both the Psion 34k & 56k with a PC Card Modem Adapter and a 5mx. Had absolutely no problem setting up as the ER5 come pre-set up and ready to go. All you have to do is set up your internet connection and modem (just select Psion Dacom) and away you go.
You can pick up both the Travel Modem & PC Card Modem Adapter (+seperate PCMCIA Modem) fairly cheaply on Ebay all the time. I used to prefer using the pccard modem as it connected using a cable rather than IRDA (which the travel modem relies on) so did not have to worry about line of sight problems. Also as Mike confirmed above you could power both the modem and Psion with just one power supply !!!
If you need any set up details, post them here.
Regards
Si
I have used both the Psion 34k & 56k with a PC Card Modem Adapter and a 5mx. Had absolutely no problem setting up as the ER5 come pre-set up and ready to go. All you have to do is set up your internet connection and modem (just select Psion Dacom) and away you go.
You can pick up both the Travel Modem & PC Card Modem Adapter (+seperate PCMCIA Modem) fairly cheaply on Ebay all the time. I used to prefer using the pccard modem as it connected using a cable rather than IRDA (which the travel modem relies on) so did not have to worry about line of sight problems. Also as Mike confirmed above you could power both the modem and Psion with just one power supply !!!
If you need any set up details, post them here.
Regards
Si
netBookBabe
09-11-2002, 02:46 PM
Alexandr0s
I have used both the 34 and 56k modems with my MC218. Exactly the same experience as wanman - no problems with set up, very reliable connection.
I too slightly prefer the cable connection scenario rather than the travel modem, and I think you may find it the cheaper option too. I bought the adapter and both modems very cheaply on eBay and have had no problems at all.
I too will be happy to advise on settings if you need any help.
Si, did you notice any obvious difference in speed between the two modems?
Julie
I have used both the 34 and 56k modems with my MC218. Exactly the same experience as wanman - no problems with set up, very reliable connection.
I too slightly prefer the cable connection scenario rather than the travel modem, and I think you may find it the cheaper option too. I bought the adapter and both modems very cheaply on eBay and have had no problems at all.
I too will be happy to advise on settings if you need any help.
Si, did you notice any obvious difference in speed between the two modems?
Julie
wanman
09-12-2002, 02:16 AM
Not majorly Julie, I did have more problems dialling in with the 34K as I found less and less ISP's supporting the slower dial up speeds but once up and running the speeds did seem fairly similar on web browsing especially. I suppose the only minor noticable speed difference was on the email application.
Si
Si
MikeMcC
09-12-2002, 03:12 AM
I did have more problems dialling in with the 34K as I found less and less ISP's supporting the slower dial up speeds
That seems strange when users generally don't seem to have had problems connecting to ISPs with mobile phones at 9600bps. I have certainly found the dozen or so ISPs I have played about with to be very tolerant of slow speed connections.
That seems strange when users generally don't seem to have had problems connecting to ISPs with mobile phones at 9600bps. I have certainly found the dozen or so ISPs I have played about with to be very tolerant of slow speed connections.
wanman
09-12-2002, 04:07 AM
Hi Mike,
This was a couple a years ago. I think I was with Zetnet at the time and then move to freenetname. Both seemed ok initially then I was getting connection problems with the 34k modem. They both gave me a different numbers to try and problems were eventually solved. It seems they had special numbers for slower connection speeds. I Did have major problems with my mobile phone, especially with email app and sending mail items. In the end I changed to Psion.net (now tiscali.co.uk) & Freeuk.com which were alot more reliable services. Both seem ok with mobiles but occasionally I still get an off day.
Si
This was a couple a years ago. I think I was with Zetnet at the time and then move to freenetname. Both seemed ok initially then I was getting connection problems with the 34k modem. They both gave me a different numbers to try and problems were eventually solved. It seems they had special numbers for slower connection speeds. I Did have major problems with my mobile phone, especially with email app and sending mail items. In the end I changed to Psion.net (now tiscali.co.uk) & Freeuk.com which were alot more reliable services. Both seem ok with mobiles but occasionally I still get an off day.
Si
netBookBabe
09-12-2002, 04:31 AM
I asked the speed comparison question because I really don't notice any difference between the two on the MC218, although I seem to on the netBook. The V34 now stays in the adapter for the 218, and the netBook keeps the 56k.
I thought it was worth a mention, because there are plenty of V34s around at pretty cheap prices. Anyone looking to buy one should remember to check whether the phone cable is included, though - a cable on its own can cost between 10 and 20 UKP, often more than the modem itself!
Julie
I thought it was worth a mention, because there are plenty of V34s around at pretty cheap prices. Anyone looking to buy one should remember to check whether the phone cable is included, though - a cable on its own can cost between 10 and 20 UKP, often more than the modem itself!
Julie
wanman
09-12-2002, 04:50 AM
Snap. I have my old 34k in the pc adapter for my 5mx and my 56k in my 7 soon to be Netbook (Chip arrived today !!). If Netbook upgrade goes OK then I will get myself a lan/modem card for the 7book and pass the 56k modem back to my 5mx and I can sell the 34k on.
Si
Si
netBookBabe
09-12-2002, 05:07 AM
Just another point on the card modem adapter, if anyone comes across one boxed for the 3c, it is EXACTLY the same (same part number) as the ones boxed for S5 etc. Think I'm right in saying that the 3c was the first Psion to have the Honda connector that we use on our 5s, netBooks etc.
I picked my adapter up for just 1 UKP when PC World were selling off Psion items :) - their ones boxed for the S5 were a LOT more.
Julie
I picked my adapter up for just 1 UKP when PC World were selling off Psion items :) - their ones boxed for the S5 were a LOT more.
Julie
MikeMcC
09-12-2002, 05:08 AM
They both gave me a different numbers to try and problems were eventually solved. It seems they had special numbers for slower connection speeds.
Ah, that may have been at the time when they were playing about with USR's X2 protocol, the K56Flex protocol and V90. With the standardisation of V90 for (theoretically) 56k connections, ISP's modem racks now seem to be pretty tolerant.
I seem to recall though that a Gold Card in the S7's PCMCIA slot will only connect at 33600bps, even if it is a V90 modem. Creating the path C:\Logs\Etel\ and looking at the Etel.txt log file may show the connect speed if anyone wants to try it. I don't know if the same applied to the netBook.
Ah, that may have been at the time when they were playing about with USR's X2 protocol, the K56Flex protocol and V90. With the standardisation of V90 for (theoretically) 56k connections, ISP's modem racks now seem to be pretty tolerant.
I seem to recall though that a Gold Card in the S7's PCMCIA slot will only connect at 33600bps, even if it is a V90 modem. Creating the path C:\Logs\Etel\ and looking at the Etel.txt log file may show the connect speed if anyone wants to try it. I don't know if the same applied to the netBook.
MikeMcC
09-12-2002, 05:17 AM
Just another point on the card modem adapter, if anyone comes across one boxed for the 3c, it is EXACTLY the same (same part number) as the ones boxed for S5 etc.
Yes, indeed, it is the same but there was actually a "3a" version as well which has the SIBO connector and, incredibly, doesn't have the necessary Comms software on board which the 3Link and 3Fax both have. Without this software, it cannot be used so you need to have one of the other devices to get the necessary Comms software.
...just a piece of probably totally useless information ;)
Yes, indeed, it is the same but there was actually a "3a" version as well which has the SIBO connector and, incredibly, doesn't have the necessary Comms software on board which the 3Link and 3Fax both have. Without this software, it cannot be used so you need to have one of the other devices to get the necessary Comms software.
...just a piece of probably totally useless information ;)
netBookBabe
09-12-2002, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by MikeMcC
I seem to recall though that a Gold Card in the S7's PCMCIA slot will only connect at 33600bps, even if it is a V90 modem. I vaguely recall hearing that in relation to the card adapter and 5mx - another reason why I asked the question.
Creating the path C:\Logs\Etel\ and looking at the Etel.txt log file may show the connect speed if anyone wants to try it.
I'll try it on the netBook once I get everything restored.
Julie
I seem to recall though that a Gold Card in the S7's PCMCIA slot will only connect at 33600bps, even if it is a V90 modem. I vaguely recall hearing that in relation to the card adapter and 5mx - another reason why I asked the question.
Creating the path C:\Logs\Etel\ and looking at the Etel.txt log file may show the connect speed if anyone wants to try it.
I'll try it on the netBook once I get everything restored.
Julie
netBookBabe
09-12-2002, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by MikeMcC
...just a piece of probably totally useless information ;)
...or a piece of totally useless hardware??? :D
Julie
...just a piece of probably totally useless information ;)
...or a piece of totally useless hardware??? :D
Julie
wanman
09-12-2002, 07:02 AM
Mmmm interesting Mike. Well I have now tried dialing in with both my V34+fax card and 56k+fax card. Both are Psion Dacom Gold Card Global. I did not change the modem settings
With the 56k+fax card:
Freeuk.com:
CONNECT 115200/V34/LAPM/V42BIS/31200:TX/336
Tiscali.co.uk:
CONNECT 115200/K56/LAPM/V42BIS/28800:TX/500
I then tried dialling in with my V34+fax modem and got the following results:
Freeuk.com:
Carrier: 31200
Protocol: LAP-M
Compression: V42BIS
Connect 115200
Tiscali.co.uk:
Carrier: 33600
Protocol: LAP-M
Compression: V42BIS
Connect 115200
I am not sure what this means but it seems to be connecting at different speeds (definitely under 34K though) depending on the ISP?
Mike you expertise if you please !! :) and look forward to Julie's results !!
Regards
Si
With the 56k+fax card:
Freeuk.com:
CONNECT 115200/V34/LAPM/V42BIS/31200:TX/336
Tiscali.co.uk:
CONNECT 115200/K56/LAPM/V42BIS/28800:TX/500
I then tried dialling in with my V34+fax modem and got the following results:
Freeuk.com:
Carrier: 31200
Protocol: LAP-M
Compression: V42BIS
Connect 115200
Tiscali.co.uk:
Carrier: 33600
Protocol: LAP-M
Compression: V42BIS
Connect 115200
I am not sure what this means but it seems to be connecting at different speeds (definitely under 34K though) depending on the ISP?
Mike you expertise if you please !! :) and look forward to Julie's results !!
Regards
Si
alexandr0s
09-12-2002, 08:33 AM
I think that all of you guys have more than answered my question-I acually know a bit about card modems now! The 34k-56k comparison was a great idea, as at the end of the day, I need the modem more for checking and sending emails rather than browsing the net, thus the 34k may well be ideal (because of low price). Unfortunately, the adaptor is expensive. One at ebay went for £19(!) yesterday, and there's only one other for sale, starting at £10. Oh, well....
My kindest thanks to everyone for being so very helpful. This forum is one of the reasons I'm very happy with my choice of the MC218.
My kindest thanks to everyone for being so very helpful. This forum is one of the reasons I'm very happy with my choice of the MC218.
wanman
09-12-2002, 08:49 AM
Check out www.clove.co.uk. They have new ones for £10+vat although none in stock, they may be able to get hold of one for you. Also keep you eyes open on ebay. Psion stuff is sold here all the time and you will always find what you are looking for at the right price eventually.
Hope you manage to get hold of them
Regards
Si
Hope you manage to get hold of them
Regards
Si
netBookBabe
09-12-2002, 09:01 AM
Of course the adapters, being a Psion-dedicated item are more scarce than the modems, which tons of people are selling when they get a new laptop with modem built in. Those modems cost a fortune when they were new!
Si is right about eBay - these things do crop up all the time, though the adapters often fetch £25+. If Clove can get them at £10+VAT that's a pretty good deal. If you're lucky, you should be able to get a V34 modem for around £10 including cable. There were some sold last week (no cable) for only just over £1. I did find a source somewhere for reasonably cheap cables (less than £10) - if necessary I'll hunt it out.
Maybe about £25 for the whole kit then, if you're lucky - it still compares pretty favourable to a Travel Modem - they're still going at around the £50 mark.
Julie
Si is right about eBay - these things do crop up all the time, though the adapters often fetch £25+. If Clove can get them at £10+VAT that's a pretty good deal. If you're lucky, you should be able to get a V34 modem for around £10 including cable. There were some sold last week (no cable) for only just over £1. I did find a source somewhere for reasonably cheap cables (less than £10) - if necessary I'll hunt it out.
Maybe about £25 for the whole kit then, if you're lucky - it still compares pretty favourable to a Travel Modem - they're still going at around the £50 mark.
Julie
MikeMcC
09-12-2002, 09:10 AM
Si,
Freeuk.com:
CONNECT 115200/V34/LAPM/V42BIS/31200:TX/336
Tiscali.co.uk:
CONNECT 115200/K56/LAPM/V42BIS/28800:TX/500
This suggests that you are using a 56k modem which supports the older K56Flex protocol, but not V90. FreeUK is using V90 modems which don't also support K56Flex and therefore a connection has been established using the slower V34 protocol at 33600. The Tiscali modems support K56Flex protocol and you have connected using this.
Actually, I suspect part of the message you have quoted is missing and you are getting something like this:
FreeUK - 31200:TX (upload speed) 33600:RX (download speed)
Tiscali - 28800:TX (upload speed) 50000:RX (download speed)
I then tried dialling in with my V34+fax modem and got the following results:
Freeuk.com:
Carrier: 31200
Protocol: LAP-M
Compression: V42BIS
Connect 115200
Tiscali.co.uk:
Carrier: 33600
Protocol: LAP-M
Compression: V42BIS
Connect 115200
I am not sure what this means but it seems to be connecting at different speeds (definitely under 34K though) depending on the ISP?
These are not significantly different. The nominal speed for a V34 protocol connection is 33600 (not 34000) and this may not always be achieved. LAP-M is an error correction protocol. The Connect speed in all cases is the speed at which the Psion and modem are communicating (the port's baud rate setting in Control Panel / Modems).
Freeuk.com:
CONNECT 115200/V34/LAPM/V42BIS/31200:TX/336
Tiscali.co.uk:
CONNECT 115200/K56/LAPM/V42BIS/28800:TX/500
This suggests that you are using a 56k modem which supports the older K56Flex protocol, but not V90. FreeUK is using V90 modems which don't also support K56Flex and therefore a connection has been established using the slower V34 protocol at 33600. The Tiscali modems support K56Flex protocol and you have connected using this.
Actually, I suspect part of the message you have quoted is missing and you are getting something like this:
FreeUK - 31200:TX (upload speed) 33600:RX (download speed)
Tiscali - 28800:TX (upload speed) 50000:RX (download speed)
I then tried dialling in with my V34+fax modem and got the following results:
Freeuk.com:
Carrier: 31200
Protocol: LAP-M
Compression: V42BIS
Connect 115200
Tiscali.co.uk:
Carrier: 33600
Protocol: LAP-M
Compression: V42BIS
Connect 115200
I am not sure what this means but it seems to be connecting at different speeds (definitely under 34K though) depending on the ISP?
These are not significantly different. The nominal speed for a V34 protocol connection is 33600 (not 34000) and this may not always be achieved. LAP-M is an error correction protocol. The Connect speed in all cases is the speed at which the Psion and modem are communicating (the port's baud rate setting in Control Panel / Modems).
alexandr0s
09-12-2002, 09:11 AM
Whatever I do, I can never get away from ebay! Spent weeks hunting for a bargain revo plus (sold shortly afterwards), and again hunting for a 5mx/mc218. Now for the modem/adapter-here we go again!
Yes, I think you might be right Julie concerning the cost. I don't think any solution-even traditional modem-will be cheaper than £25. And, at the end of the day, £25 is a small price for mobile connectivity.
Yes, I think you might be right Julie concerning the cost. I don't think any solution-even traditional modem-will be cheaper than £25. And, at the end of the day, £25 is a small price for mobile connectivity.
MikeMcC
09-12-2002, 09:20 AM
Whatever I do, I can never get away from ebay!
I just wish I could understand eBay! On the several occasions I have visited the site, I have found it completely incomprehensible.
I just wish I could understand eBay! On the several occasions I have visited the site, I have found it completely incomprehensible.
wanman
09-12-2002, 09:21 AM
Ahhh ebay, Psion users best friend !!! well that and PDA Street of course !!!!
Mike, have checked out the log but no upload/download speeds recorded, mind you I only dialled in and out of my mailbox then disconnected. If I get the time I will try some web browsing and check the log again. Still seems that modem is only connecting at 33600 rather any higher. If I get my 7 up to Netbook speeds, I will get a v90 56k+10/100 Lan card from Ebay and try it out again.
Cheers Mike for you excellent support again.
Si
Mike, have checked out the log but no upload/download speeds recorded, mind you I only dialled in and out of my mailbox then disconnected. If I get the time I will try some web browsing and check the log again. Still seems that modem is only connecting at 33600 rather any higher. If I get my 7 up to Netbook speeds, I will get a v90 56k+10/100 Lan card from Ebay and try it out again.
Cheers Mike for you excellent support again.
Si
wanman
09-12-2002, 09:24 AM
I just wish I could understand eBay! On the several occasions I have visited the site, I have found it completely incomprehensible.
Well you keep passing on your vast knowledge of Psion and we will exchange it for the power and knowledge of EBAY. You will never buy anything in the shops again..........perhaps !!
Si
Well you keep passing on your vast knowledge of Psion and we will exchange it for the power and knowledge of EBAY. You will never buy anything in the shops again..........perhaps !!
Si
alexandr0s
09-12-2002, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by MikeMcC
I just wish I could understand eBay! On the several occasions I have visited the site, I have found it completely incomprehensible.
For me it's highly convenient for finding these little things that I wouldn't know where else to find, or even if I do they're at much higher prices. As in this case, where else could I hope to find a gold card modem for £10? (Of course increasingly auctions do get to my nerves but that's another story)
I just wish I could understand eBay! On the several occasions I have visited the site, I have found it completely incomprehensible.
For me it's highly convenient for finding these little things that I wouldn't know where else to find, or even if I do they're at much higher prices. As in this case, where else could I hope to find a gold card modem for £10? (Of course increasingly auctions do get to my nerves but that's another story)
alexandr0s
09-12-2002, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by wanman
Well you keep passing on your vast knowledge of Psion and we will exchange it for the power and knowledge of EBAY. You will never buy anything in the shops again..........perhaps !!
Si
There's a true ebayer-always on the lookout for a bargain ;)
Well you keep passing on your vast knowledge of Psion and we will exchange it for the power and knowledge of EBAY. You will never buy anything in the shops again..........perhaps !!
Si
There's a true ebayer-always on the lookout for a bargain ;)
MikeMcC
09-12-2002, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by wanman
Mike, have checked out the log but no upload/download speeds recorded
You already had the speeds:
Freeuk.com:
CONNECT 115200/V34/LAPM/V42BIS/31200:TX/336
Tiscali.co.uk:
CONNECT 115200/K56/LAPM/V42BIS/28800:TX/500
but I suspect the end of the lines was truncated and should have been:
Freeuk.com:
CONNECT 115200/V34/LAPM/V42BIS/31200:TX/33600:RX
Tiscali.co.uk:
CONNECT 115200/K56/LAPM/V42BIS/28800:TX/50000:RX
Mike, have checked out the log but no upload/download speeds recorded
You already had the speeds:
Freeuk.com:
CONNECT 115200/V34/LAPM/V42BIS/31200:TX/336
Tiscali.co.uk:
CONNECT 115200/K56/LAPM/V42BIS/28800:TX/500
but I suspect the end of the lines was truncated and should have been:
Freeuk.com:
CONNECT 115200/V34/LAPM/V42BIS/31200:TX/33600:RX
Tiscali.co.uk:
CONNECT 115200/K56/LAPM/V42BIS/28800:TX/50000:RX
wanman
09-12-2002, 09:40 AM
Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. Now if that isn't worth 1 hours tutorial on the finer points of Egay.....I mean Ebay, I don't what is. lol
Seriously though, cheers Mike for help explaining all that.
Si
Seriously though, cheers Mike for help explaining all that.
Si
mboot
09-12-2002, 11:14 AM
I noticed in this thread Mike's comment regarding ebay - are you using Opera to access it? I also find I get weird pages when using Opera for ebay - looks like their server is detecting the browser type but gets it all wrong with Opera. Using IE5 works fine. Just a thought...
MikeMcC
09-12-2002, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by mboot
I noticed in this thread Mike's comment regarding ebay - are you using Opera to access it? I also find I get weird pages when using Opera for ebay - looks like their server is detecting the browser type but gets it all wrong with Opera. Using IE5 works fine. Just a thought...
No, I'm using the PC. I am just too stupid to follow the machinations of eBay - all the little symbols which mean nothng to me and there doesn't seem to be a key to what they mean. It's probably in an FAQ somewhere but I just don't find it particularly intuitive :mad:
I noticed in this thread Mike's comment regarding ebay - are you using Opera to access it? I also find I get weird pages when using Opera for ebay - looks like their server is detecting the browser type but gets it all wrong with Opera. Using IE5 works fine. Just a thought...
No, I'm using the PC. I am just too stupid to follow the machinations of eBay - all the little symbols which mean nothng to me and there doesn't seem to be a key to what they mean. It's probably in an FAQ somewhere but I just don't find it particularly intuitive :mad:
netBookBabe
09-12-2002, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by alexandr0s
where else could I hope to find a gold card modem for £10? )
Certainly not at PC World, Alex. I just got back from a visit to my local branch - they've got the 56k Gold Card all right, at £159.99!
{Si, Alex and Julie all head swiftly back in the direction of eBay, with Mike trailing somewhat reluctantly behind}
;) ;) ;)
where else could I hope to find a gold card modem for £10? )
Certainly not at PC World, Alex. I just got back from a visit to my local branch - they've got the 56k Gold Card all right, at £159.99!
{Si, Alex and Julie all head swiftly back in the direction of eBay, with Mike trailing somewhat reluctantly behind}
;) ;) ;)
alexandr0s
09-13-2002, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by netBookBabe
Certainly not at PC World, Alex. I just got back from a visit to my local branch - they've got the 56k Gold Card all right, at £159.99!
Exactly! And BTW, that's what pisses me off about these places: it seems to me as if it takes them ages to adjust their prices, especially for non-front line items.Because I can not believe that RRP can be £159.99 when you can pick it up second hand for £15 or max £20!
Originally posted by netBookBabe
{Si, Alex and Julie all head swiftly back in the direction of eBay, with Mike trailing somewhat reluctantly behind}
;) ;) ;)
LOL:D :D
Sad (maybe) but very, very true....
Certainly not at PC World, Alex. I just got back from a visit to my local branch - they've got the 56k Gold Card all right, at £159.99!
Exactly! And BTW, that's what pisses me off about these places: it seems to me as if it takes them ages to adjust their prices, especially for non-front line items.Because I can not believe that RRP can be £159.99 when you can pick it up second hand for £15 or max £20!
Originally posted by netBookBabe
{Si, Alex and Julie all head swiftly back in the direction of eBay, with Mike trailing somewhat reluctantly behind}
;) ;) ;)
LOL:D :D
Sad (maybe) but very, very true....
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