rööts
07-01-2003, 04:23 PM
Link to Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000087BXU/qid=1057090929/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-8591466-4247834?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846)
Click to See Complete Forum and Search --> : Amazon said release date July 15
CaptMyCapt
07-02-2003, 08:43 PM
Yes, I saw that date on Amazon.com as well. Now after thinking about it, why would Amazon know something that Garmin does not appear to know? Or, is Amazon just trying to get all the pre-orders they can, and folks with get their units when they get them. After all Garmin is still saying Summer on their website, and others are saying mid- to late-July. So, nobody really seems to know for sure.
CaptMyCapt
07-03-2003, 07:04 PM
Brighthand's Editor in Chief has word from Garmin:
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Garmin_iQue_3600_Release_Pushed_Back
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Garmin_iQue_3600_Release_Pushed_Back
cohenc
07-04-2003, 08:45 AM
Amazon still lists my shipment as shipping July 8th, received July 11th. They could just be lax in this department
I think we have learned that there will be priority shipping to different vendors. Will be interesting to see who gets it first - Amazon, TVNav, Best Buy, etc.
Newer orders will be filled following those aready queued up - so a new availability date on the product page may be for new orders only, not for pre-existing ones. Ya never know...
Cheers,
Caleb
I think we have learned that there will be priority shipping to different vendors. Will be interesting to see who gets it first - Amazon, TVNav, Best Buy, etc.
Newer orders will be filled following those aready queued up - so a new availability date on the product page may be for new orders only, not for pre-existing ones. Ya never know...
Cheers,
Caleb
CaptMyCapt
07-04-2003, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by cohenc
I think we have learned that there will be priority shipping to different vendors. Will be interesting to see who gets it first - Amazon, TVNav, Best Buy, etc.
Good point . . . maybe we should start a 'pool,' with the winner getting a free iQue - LOL.
I think we have learned that there will be priority shipping to different vendors. Will be interesting to see who gets it first - Amazon, TVNav, Best Buy, etc.
Good point . . . maybe we should start a 'pool,' with the winner getting a free iQue - LOL.
ssaibal
07-08-2003, 07:48 PM
I spoke to TVNAV this morning. Their last update from Garmin was on 6/27 and at that time Garmin had said 2 weeks. This would mean 7/11. I will bug TVNAV again on 7/11.;)
demiller9
07-09-2003, 12:44 AM
I don't see any point in bugging Darrel (TVNAV), he can't get product until Garmin ships it, and he will re-ship as soon as it comes in. If you are a member of his yahoo group (send a blank email to GarminGPSpublic-subscribe@yahoogroups.com), he sends messages out when he is notified of shipments, so you can find out the status that way.
I'm also watching my credit card account to see when the charge shows up.
Don
I'm also watching my credit card account to see when the charge shows up.
Don
Moose Man
07-09-2003, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by demiller9
I don't see any point in bugging Darrel (TVNAV), he can't get product until Garmin ships it, and he will re-ship as soon as it comes in. If you are a member of his yahoo group (send a blank email to GarminGPSpublic-subscribe@yahoogroups.com), he sends messages out when he is notified of shipments, so you can find out the status that way.
I'm also watching my credit card account to see when the charge shows up.
Don
Ditto! it will be here as soon as Darrel can forward - if that's Friday then it's Monday for me. If Amazon states they will ship on the 15th then I'm quite certain that Darrel will ship before because Amazon is so much larger that they have to "receive" them into their system which will take some processing time. Also, considering Darrel's proximity to Garmin - he should have them just about before anyone else does as well.
Garmin is the issue with the delays not TVNAV.
I don't see any point in bugging Darrel (TVNAV), he can't get product until Garmin ships it, and he will re-ship as soon as it comes in. If you are a member of his yahoo group (send a blank email to GarminGPSpublic-subscribe@yahoogroups.com), he sends messages out when he is notified of shipments, so you can find out the status that way.
I'm also watching my credit card account to see when the charge shows up.
Don
Ditto! it will be here as soon as Darrel can forward - if that's Friday then it's Monday for me. If Amazon states they will ship on the 15th then I'm quite certain that Darrel will ship before because Amazon is so much larger that they have to "receive" them into their system which will take some processing time. Also, considering Darrel's proximity to Garmin - he should have them just about before anyone else does as well.
Garmin is the issue with the delays not TVNAV.
mstgsh
07-10-2003, 09:42 PM
I too ordered early from Amazon - on April 28th. I don't know when they started selling there, but at that time they were quite strongly promoting the iQue. A featured new product, on the early adapters list, etc. Very powerful and valuable stuff. Garmin owes Amazon big, and maybe they're taking it in the price, but I'll be disappointed if Amazon doesn't provide the follow-thru for their customers. We'll see. Nothing on my door step yet. Amazon at this moment says:
"Items not yet shipped:
Delivery estimate: Jul 8, 2003 - Jul 9, 2003 "
I have to assume that means delivery to them, as it ain't here!
I'm very interested in following their ability to meet demand, as it may be a product that drives Garmin's future growth. Management indicated in an April investor conference call that they would be very happy with sales of 100K units. Not sure if he meant this year, a full year, or exactly what, but that seems very modest to me. Any thoughts out there on what the potential market may be for this device? For fellow investors, a hit with the iQue will do wonders for GRMN stock (again). I can't tell until I'm able to test it. I now fear for it's bulkier size. I just hope it works without freezing up, has hefty memory capacity, a crisp and bright screen, and is quick. A camera would be a nice addition for a later version. And bluetooth.
Thanks for the opportunity to learn and contribute.
David
"Items not yet shipped:
Delivery estimate: Jul 8, 2003 - Jul 9, 2003 "
I have to assume that means delivery to them, as it ain't here!
I'm very interested in following their ability to meet demand, as it may be a product that drives Garmin's future growth. Management indicated in an April investor conference call that they would be very happy with sales of 100K units. Not sure if he meant this year, a full year, or exactly what, but that seems very modest to me. Any thoughts out there on what the potential market may be for this device? For fellow investors, a hit with the iQue will do wonders for GRMN stock (again). I can't tell until I'm able to test it. I now fear for it's bulkier size. I just hope it works without freezing up, has hefty memory capacity, a crisp and bright screen, and is quick. A camera would be a nice addition for a later version. And bluetooth.
Thanks for the opportunity to learn and contribute.
David
coop
07-10-2003, 10:52 PM
There's a post in the thread "Waiting for the 3600" where the writer (Ericg40) says he rec'd an email from Garmin saying the 3600
"is currently unavailable. It is not due to be released to our dealers until late 3rd quarter."
I wonder if this is the official position, or if this is just the opinion of one sales or support person.
Not happy.
coop
"is currently unavailable. It is not due to be released to our dealers until late 3rd quarter."
I wonder if this is the official position, or if this is just the opinion of one sales or support person.
Not happy.
coop
paul6347
07-11-2003, 02:58 PM
Does anyone know if the Release date of July 15th is still true, or has it changed till the 3rd quarter? Did anybody speak or either email Garmin, TVNAV or anyother distributor lately?
Paul
(still waiting for the Ique)
Paul
(still waiting for the Ique)
coop
07-11-2003, 03:05 PM
Actually, July 15th is in Q3.
The bad news is that it might be slipping from July 15th (early Q3) to "late Q3".
Whenever that might be...
sigh.
The bad news is that it might be slipping from July 15th (early Q3) to "late Q3".
Whenever that might be...
sigh.
coop
07-11-2003, 03:05 PM
...and I emailed Garmin yesterday.
No reply as of yet.
coop
No reply as of yet.
coop
paul6347
07-11-2003, 03:21 PM
I would call Garmin myself, but I know I would get some generic range of shipping. Last time I called, right at the beginning of this month, they told me that they will ship between the middle and the end of the month to distruibtors. ?? I don't know what "Late 3rd Quarter is" september??
Paul
Paul
coop
07-11-2003, 03:38 PM
Yup, September.
That could mean the first week of September or, as I suggested somewhere else, 23h59 on September 30th.
That time would probably be in the Hawaiian Time Zone, to get the most time possible.
How much time does it take to from Garmin's manufacturing facility, to the distributors and then to the actual consumer? No idea, but it will add some time to the mix.
I suggested somewhere else that I hope to get one before Christmas, but I'm beginning to wonder about that!
cheers!
coop
That could mean the first week of September or, as I suggested somewhere else, 23h59 on September 30th.
That time would probably be in the Hawaiian Time Zone, to get the most time possible.
How much time does it take to from Garmin's manufacturing facility, to the distributors and then to the actual consumer? No idea, but it will add some time to the mix.
I suggested somewhere else that I hope to get one before Christmas, but I'm beginning to wonder about that!
cheers!
coop
coop
07-11-2003, 07:16 PM
I sent an email to Garmin the other day asking if they had a more specific deliver date than "summer". I rec'd an email reply from Garmin this afternoon...
"The units are in production in Taiwan and they are to ship out later this month to the dealers in a first ordered first shipped basis."
I have asked about method of transport from Taiwan, (I have a background in electronics manufacturing throughout Asia) to get an idea of when the products might make it to the dealers. As my second question wasn't sent out untill late in the afternoon on a Friday (well, I do have to work!), I don't expect an answer untill sometime next week.
Should be interesting.
coop
"The units are in production in Taiwan and they are to ship out later this month to the dealers in a first ordered first shipped basis."
I have asked about method of transport from Taiwan, (I have a background in electronics manufacturing throughout Asia) to get an idea of when the products might make it to the dealers. As my second question wasn't sent out untill late in the afternoon on a Friday (well, I do have to work!), I don't expect an answer untill sometime next week.
Should be interesting.
coop
omnibus
07-11-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by coop
I sent an email to Garmin the other day asking if they had a more specific deliver date than "summer". I rec'd an email reply from Garmin this afternoon...
"The units are in production in Taiwan and they are to ship out later this month to the dealers in a first ordered first shipped basis."
I have asked about method of transport from Taiwan, (I have a background in electronics manufacturing throughout Asia) to get an idea of when the products might make it to the dealers. As my second question wasn't sent out untill late in the afternoon on a Friday (well, I do have to work!), I don't expect an answer untill sometime next week.
Should be interesting.
coop
If they are shipped by air the plane will crash into the sea.
If they are shipped by sea..........well you get the idea.:p
I sent an email to Garmin the other day asking if they had a more specific deliver date than "summer". I rec'd an email reply from Garmin this afternoon...
"The units are in production in Taiwan and they are to ship out later this month to the dealers in a first ordered first shipped basis."
I have asked about method of transport from Taiwan, (I have a background in electronics manufacturing throughout Asia) to get an idea of when the products might make it to the dealers. As my second question wasn't sent out untill late in the afternoon on a Friday (well, I do have to work!), I don't expect an answer untill sometime next week.
Should be interesting.
coop
If they are shipped by air the plane will crash into the sea.
If they are shipped by sea..........well you get the idea.:p
Moose Man
07-12-2003, 11:20 AM
Darrel must be taking a vacation or will be so busy shipping iQue's out that his web site states that he'll be closed from July 14 through July 18th. So, if the July 15th date is correct and Darrel is on vacation - those of us who ordered through TVNAV will have to wait ......
Ericg40
07-13-2003, 06:00 PM
I hope Amazon is right, but I'm going to repeat the email I received from Garmin.
This is what I wrote:
Route to: sales@garmin.com
Inquiry: When are you shipping your IQue 3600? You must have a date by now! Thank you Eric
This was the response:
Thank you for contacting GARMIN International, This unit is currently unavailable. It is not due to be released to our dealers until late 3rd quarter. Please keep in mind that there are a number of people that have placed orders so you will need to check with your local GARMIN dealer for availability and pricing. If you need to locate a dealer in your area please visit our website @ www.garmin.com/dealers...
If they don't ship by July, I'm getting a Tungsten T with an Emtec GPS.
This is what I wrote:
Route to: sales@garmin.com
Inquiry: When are you shipping your IQue 3600? You must have a date by now! Thank you Eric
This was the response:
Thank you for contacting GARMIN International, This unit is currently unavailable. It is not due to be released to our dealers until late 3rd quarter. Please keep in mind that there are a number of people that have placed orders so you will need to check with your local GARMIN dealer for availability and pricing. If you need to locate a dealer in your area please visit our website @ www.garmin.com/dealers...
If they don't ship by July, I'm getting a Tungsten T with an Emtec GPS.
cohenc
07-15-2003, 08:43 AM
According to Amazon, the product's availability is no longer "to be released July 15th..." but:
Availability: Usually ships within 2 to 3 days
[added this Pp in edit]
What tells me they have them in hand and that this wasn't an automated web update is that I also pre-ordered the auto-nav kit and it has always been listed as a week past the 3600. Specifically yesterday, it listed a ship date of July 15 for the iQue and July 20th for the Auto Nav kit. Today even the Nav Kit is listed as "2-3 Days"
Still nothing on my order page about it being en-route...
Caleb
Availability: Usually ships within 2 to 3 days
[added this Pp in edit]
What tells me they have them in hand and that this wasn't an automated web update is that I also pre-ordered the auto-nav kit and it has always been listed as a week past the 3600. Specifically yesterday, it listed a ship date of July 15 for the iQue and July 20th for the Auto Nav kit. Today even the Nav Kit is listed as "2-3 Days"
Still nothing on my order page about it being en-route...
Caleb
demiller9
07-15-2003, 11:23 AM
your credit card would be billed before the product goes out the door to you. Can you find out if your card was billed?
Don
Don
paul6347
07-15-2003, 03:35 PM
If TVNAV is on vacation till 7/21, how is he expecting to receive a shipment of IQUE's from Garmin? Does he know something we don't? Did he go on vacation to just avoid the hundreds of phone calls asking "Did you ship my IQUE?" If he knew he wasn't getting them this week, he should of at least posted on his web site or announced it in his answering machine recording. If he took vacation knowing that he is getting a shipment of them this week, that would be foolish. The truck would see vacation signs and return the shipment back to Garmin. We are frantic awaiting the arrival of our preorders.
Darrel or Garmin or Anyone!
IF YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WILL SHIP, PLEASE LET US KNOW IN THIS FORUM!
Paul
Darrel or Garmin or Anyone!
IF YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WILL SHIP, PLEASE LET US KNOW IN THIS FORUM!
Paul
cohenc
07-15-2003, 04:09 PM
First of all, TVNav probably only has a dozen or so orders for the iQue, at most. Amazon probably only has a few dozen, at most. This is not like Ford releasing the newest Mustang Cobra or such. The pre-order demand for this is relatively small. So TVNav isn't avoiding *hundreds* of phone calls.
Second, just because a small web business says "I'm on vacation" doesn't mean they don't have an ability to a) receive shipments or b) make shipments, especially those expected and highly desired. I consult for a web business and I routinely put up that he's on vacation, but all that means is his custom 1-day overnight orders can't be fulfilled. Everything else runs as normal and someone can send out orders, especially expected high demand items.
I actually found it quite amazing the blind support and faith this group had in TVNav before he posted his vacation notice. I expressed doubt that a small vendor would have many advantages over a larger one. You guys discounted that view. Now in a couple of posts, you start questioning that loyalty. Now I find myself defending him. Just because a dozen of us have pre-ordered this unit, not even all from TVNav, does not mean that we make a dent in the world of electronics or even with Garmin's stock price.
Cheers - and everyone take a chill pill - no one want this device more than me, trust me at that!
Caleb
Second, just because a small web business says "I'm on vacation" doesn't mean they don't have an ability to a) receive shipments or b) make shipments, especially those expected and highly desired. I consult for a web business and I routinely put up that he's on vacation, but all that means is his custom 1-day overnight orders can't be fulfilled. Everything else runs as normal and someone can send out orders, especially expected high demand items.
I actually found it quite amazing the blind support and faith this group had in TVNav before he posted his vacation notice. I expressed doubt that a small vendor would have many advantages over a larger one. You guys discounted that view. Now in a couple of posts, you start questioning that loyalty. Now I find myself defending him. Just because a dozen of us have pre-ordered this unit, not even all from TVNav, does not mean that we make a dent in the world of electronics or even with Garmin's stock price.
Cheers - and everyone take a chill pill - no one want this device more than me, trust me at that!
Caleb
opusxcigars
07-15-2003, 04:35 PM
Last I talked to TVNAV they had over 135 pre-orders for the unit. That was 3+ weeks ago.
paul6347
07-15-2003, 04:47 PM
I'm not discounting TVNAV business in anyway, and from all the positive feedback I've read in just this forum, and his good price, I've too have a pre-order with Darrel for an IQUE and AutoNav Kit. I called Darrel just to listen to his message, and he says "we will be closed until July 21st", "Please leave a message and we will call you back when we return on July 21st". I know TVNAV is a small business, and it's probably just him, that's ok. But just from the recording, it tells me that nobody is there to pick up the phone to take orders or answer questions till July 21st. When I mentioned "Hundreds" of phone calls, I was going on the information I knew at the time I placed my order. Darrel said he had 160 orders before me for the IQUE, and that was 3 weeks ago. So if everybody wanted to check on there order, he would receive "hundreds" of phone calls. Whether someone is there shipping orders and/or receiving delivers, that's unknown to me. All I was trying to get out was, If any reseller, distruibutor or someone from Garmin, actually knows what's going on with the status of the IQUE, let us know. I just thought since he went on vacation, he KNOWS something that we don't. If there's another pushback on the shipping date, let us know, we're grownups, we can take it :( I too am "dying" to receive this new toy, since I already own a Garmin product, I know how reliable and accurate they are. All we knew as of yesterday, that they will be shipping on July 15th. Now today comes and nobody knows anything. All I wanted to say was "If you know something, let us know".
Paul
Paul
stevevo
07-15-2003, 04:48 PM
I preordered from TVNav back on January 28 so I have waited almost 6 months. I am going on vacation in August so hope I get it before I leave with some room for the learning curve. Can't wait. Darrel has been more than most vendors that I have dealt with. He has been very honest and always answers any and all contacts that I have made with him. He deserves a vacation too.
Moose Man
07-15-2003, 07:21 PM
Does knowing that the iQue is shipping make any difference? If it is shipping then I'm certain that Darrel is doing what he can to fulfill his orders. If it's not shipping - then it makes no difference.
Will life be any different if the unit is in your hand - yes but you should still be able to live without it. If we have all waited this long a few more days shouldn't be any different.
Will life be any different if the unit is in your hand - yes but you should still be able to live without it. If we have all waited this long a few more days shouldn't be any different.
Stymyx
07-16-2003, 02:13 PM
It's all part of the anticipation process, Moose!
You're correct, in the grand scheme of things, a new PDA will not make a life-or-death difference in anybody's life. Neither will knowing whether or not the iQue is shipping yet. It's just anticipation, that's all. We've all been waiting for the iQue for a while now, and speculating with others just helps to fuel the anticipation. Not an unhealthy thing, I think!
By the way: Yes, I'm new here. I recently sold my Sony Clie NX70V and am replacing it with the iQue. I am now a refugee from the ClieSource forums. So far, this is the only forum I've found dedicated specifically to the iQue and I hope this forum continues to grow. From what I've read here, the participants here are people of good character, which is a welcome change from ClieSource! I hope to become a regular participant here.
Cheers,
Jeff
You're correct, in the grand scheme of things, a new PDA will not make a life-or-death difference in anybody's life. Neither will knowing whether or not the iQue is shipping yet. It's just anticipation, that's all. We've all been waiting for the iQue for a while now, and speculating with others just helps to fuel the anticipation. Not an unhealthy thing, I think!
By the way: Yes, I'm new here. I recently sold my Sony Clie NX70V and am replacing it with the iQue. I am now a refugee from the ClieSource forums. So far, this is the only forum I've found dedicated specifically to the iQue and I hope this forum continues to grow. From what I've read here, the participants here are people of good character, which is a welcome change from ClieSource! I hope to become a regular participant here.
Cheers,
Jeff
reinbeau
07-16-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Stymyx
So far, this is the only forum I've found dedicated specifically to the iQue and I hope this forum continues to grow. From what I've read here, the participants here are people of good character, which is a welcome change from ClieSource! I hope to become a regular participant here.
Actually there are two others I know of, http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14558
and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GarminPDA/
Although I really like the way this forum works!
Ann, eagerly awaiting her Garmin iQue 3600
So far, this is the only forum I've found dedicated specifically to the iQue and I hope this forum continues to grow. From what I've read here, the participants here are people of good character, which is a welcome change from ClieSource! I hope to become a regular participant here.
Actually there are two others I know of, http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14558
and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GarminPDA/
Although I really like the way this forum works!
Ann, eagerly awaiting her Garmin iQue 3600
Stymyx
07-16-2003, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by reinbeau
Actually there are two others I know of, http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14558
and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GarminPDA/
Although I really like the way this forum works!
Ann, eagerly awaiting her Garmin iQue 3600
I stand corrected. Thanks, Ann!
Actually there are two others I know of, http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14558
and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GarminPDA/
Although I really like the way this forum works!
Ann, eagerly awaiting her Garmin iQue 3600
I stand corrected. Thanks, Ann!
jgarf
07-16-2003, 10:22 PM
My Amazon pre-order is still showing a delivery estimate of July 19 - 23, and was supposed to ship today. Now on the ique product page: "Availability: This item will be released on July 30, 2003. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives." Unless this is the date for new orders (wishful thinking), looks like it's at least another 2 weeks.
Oh well, guess I'm not using it for my trip next weekend. And I'll have to keep wiping up the drool.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000087BXU/qid=1058408298/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-4895559-5333764?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846
Oh well, guess I'm not using it for my trip next weekend. And I'll have to keep wiping up the drool.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000087BXU/qid=1058408298/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-4895559-5333764?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846
Moose Man
07-16-2003, 10:45 PM
Not having ever ordered anything from Amazon - I wonder if they have allocated their original orders and only promising to ship any additional orders on or after July 30th because they know their original shipment from Garmin will not cover supplemental orders. Their 2nd shipment may not be scheduled until July 30th?
Also, just as a side note: I doubt that Garmin will ever ( or any other manufacturer) post specific information on availability or correctly inform their staff about a "date". Reason being is one of a liability. Amazon sounds like they are covering their backsides by saying July 30th with caveats of when it arrives etc.
Once someone specifies an exact date - they will become fodder for lawyers who have nothing better to do then file a lawsuit on behalf of the "damaged masses" if delivery is not met. Let's say a company based a new delivery system on a using the iQue and were scheduled to launch July 1st assuming that there 50 or 500 IQue's would be available....well I think everyone will understand the point.
Although I'm dissapointed in my unit not being in my awaiting big hands - I'm more dissapointed that Garmin hasn't released some official notification to the "wires" as to the continued delays - I guess that they feel they are covering their backsides by having the web page state availability in "Summer of 2003".
Still patiently awaiting my iQue. I'd like to have it by next Friday since I'm going to Hawaii for work for a week and would love to use it there on Oahu.
Also, just as a side note: I doubt that Garmin will ever ( or any other manufacturer) post specific information on availability or correctly inform their staff about a "date". Reason being is one of a liability. Amazon sounds like they are covering their backsides by saying July 30th with caveats of when it arrives etc.
Once someone specifies an exact date - they will become fodder for lawyers who have nothing better to do then file a lawsuit on behalf of the "damaged masses" if delivery is not met. Let's say a company based a new delivery system on a using the iQue and were scheduled to launch July 1st assuming that there 50 or 500 IQue's would be available....well I think everyone will understand the point.
Although I'm dissapointed in my unit not being in my awaiting big hands - I'm more dissapointed that Garmin hasn't released some official notification to the "wires" as to the continued delays - I guess that they feel they are covering their backsides by having the web page state availability in "Summer of 2003".
Still patiently awaiting my iQue. I'd like to have it by next Friday since I'm going to Hawaii for work for a week and would love to use it there on Oahu.
stevevo
07-17-2003, 12:30 PM
I called and asked if I could get a manual on the iQue to try and learn about it before I got it but they won't release that either. Still hoping to recieve it for my vacation to California in August.
makulos
07-17-2003, 03:37 PM
New member...just signed up...Like most of you, I pre-ordered the IQUE 3600 and is eagerly awaiting to get my sweaty hands on the darn thing. Called the vendor I pre-ordered it from about a few hours ago and was told they expect to receive the first shipment by early next week...well guess what? They just updated their website saying there are production delays and shipment was moved back to August! Good job Garmin! You have constantly moved back shipment for hmmm--gosh, I lost count. I can hear the sound of credibility whirling down the drain. Anyway, whatever the reason behind the delay, I hope it is to improve the unit...I have my fingers crossed hoping I don't have to wait past August...
Moose Man
07-17-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by makulos
New member...just signed up...Like most of you, I pre-ordered the IQUE 3600 and is eagerly awaiting to get my sweaty hands on the darn thing. Called the vendor I pre-ordered it from about a few hours ago and was told they expect to receive the first shipment by early next week...well guess what? They just updated their website saying there are production delays and shipment was moved back to August! Good job Garmin! You have constantly moved back shipment for hmmm--gosh, I lost count. I can hear the sound of credibility whirling down the drain. Anyway, whatever the reason behind the delay, I hope it is to improve the unit...I have my fingers crossed hoping I don't have to wait past August...
Ok do we have to guess or can you share whom your ordering from?
New member...just signed up...Like most of you, I pre-ordered the IQUE 3600 and is eagerly awaiting to get my sweaty hands on the darn thing. Called the vendor I pre-ordered it from about a few hours ago and was told they expect to receive the first shipment by early next week...well guess what? They just updated their website saying there are production delays and shipment was moved back to August! Good job Garmin! You have constantly moved back shipment for hmmm--gosh, I lost count. I can hear the sound of credibility whirling down the drain. Anyway, whatever the reason behind the delay, I hope it is to improve the unit...I have my fingers crossed hoping I don't have to wait past August...
Ok do we have to guess or can you share whom your ordering from?
makulos
07-18-2003, 03:20 AM
Ordered from Adventure GPS...a great outfit. I didn't want to put them on the spot because it is not their fault that Garmin pushed delivery back again. But since you asked...
Don't get me wrong...I'm in no way affiliated with them...just a happy satisfied customer from a prior order. Their staff is helpful and courteous...and requests are handled promptly and efficiently. Prices are comparable to TVNAV too.
Don't get me wrong...I'm in no way affiliated with them...just a happy satisfied customer from a prior order. Their staff is helpful and courteous...and requests are handled promptly and efficiently. Prices are comparable to TVNAV too.
Moose Man
07-18-2003, 09:42 AM
Not to put any dealer on the spot just curious as to whom is shipping or not.
Garmin - is the delay here and when they release - I'm certain that we'll all be happy but the wait is frustrating and the lack of "solid" information is even more frustrating. This lack of specific info seems to contagious though through out the PDA environment though I don't know why the manufacturers choose to do it.
Garmin - is the delay here and when they release - I'm certain that we'll all be happy but the wait is frustrating and the lack of "solid" information is even more frustrating. This lack of specific info seems to contagious though through out the PDA environment though I don't know why the manufacturers choose to do it.
totalsc
07-18-2003, 07:38 PM
Just thought you may like this from the Wal-Mart Website:
Preorder this item today, and it will ship on or just after 8/22/2003.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=3951&dept=3944&product_id=2129165&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A3967%3A113985
I am getting mine through a distributor I use and they have no idea on a date.
Preorder this item today, and it will ship on or just after 8/22/2003.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=3951&dept=3944&product_id=2129165&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A3967%3A113985
I am getting mine through a distributor I use and they have no idea on a date.
Moose Man
07-18-2003, 11:54 PM
Walmart is probably not high on the list of distributors nor pipeline fill for Garmin because of Walmart's nature. Walmart may have been told by Garmin that they will fill the pipeline first then fill orders for other brick and mortar facilities after the initial shipment - I hope!
Stymyx
07-19-2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by totalsc
Just thought you may like this from the Wal-Mart Website:
Preorder this item today, and it will ship on or just after 8/22/2003.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=3951&dept=3944&product_id=2129165&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A3967%3A113985
I am getting mine through a distributor I use and they have no idea on a date.
For what it's worth, the Wal-Mart web site was stating 8/22/2003 as the shipping date at least as far back as the middle of June!
I ordered mine from TVNAV.com. Can't beat their price!
Just thought you may like this from the Wal-Mart Website:
Preorder this item today, and it will ship on or just after 8/22/2003.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=3951&dept=3944&product_id=2129165&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A3967%3A113985
I am getting mine through a distributor I use and they have no idea on a date.
For what it's worth, the Wal-Mart web site was stating 8/22/2003 as the shipping date at least as far back as the middle of June!
I ordered mine from TVNAV.com. Can't beat their price!
funkadelic
07-20-2003, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by Moose Man
Walmart is probably not high on the list of distributors nor pipeline fill for Garmin because of Walmart's nature. Walmart may have been told by Garmin that they will fill the pipeline first then fill orders for other brick and mortar facilities after the initial shipment - I hope!
curious..what do you mean by "Walmart's nature" ? If you follow the retail sector, you'd understand that Walmart has tremendous buying power. they don't have the "cool" factor amazon has, but they can sure as hell add substantially to any company's bottom line that they do business with (much more than amazon could)...but i digress.
also for what it's worth...from what I understand, Walmart is purchasing direct from Garmin while Amazon is buying through a distributor. not sure what difference that will make in the end, but all the units that walmart buys will go to walmart/walmart.com while amazon will probably have to fight with other retailers that will buy through the same distributor they are going through. also...i'm more likely to believe walmart's ship date (assuming that is when everyone will get shipments) than amazon's since walmart is probably getting that info direct from Garmin and not through a distributor like Amazon is.
just my $0.02...that it for what you may...i'm still waiting patiently for my order to arrive @ tvnav but wouldn't hesistate to buy from somewhere else if i can get it sooner...it's been quite a long wait :)
Walmart is probably not high on the list of distributors nor pipeline fill for Garmin because of Walmart's nature. Walmart may have been told by Garmin that they will fill the pipeline first then fill orders for other brick and mortar facilities after the initial shipment - I hope!
curious..what do you mean by "Walmart's nature" ? If you follow the retail sector, you'd understand that Walmart has tremendous buying power. they don't have the "cool" factor amazon has, but they can sure as hell add substantially to any company's bottom line that they do business with (much more than amazon could)...but i digress.
also for what it's worth...from what I understand, Walmart is purchasing direct from Garmin while Amazon is buying through a distributor. not sure what difference that will make in the end, but all the units that walmart buys will go to walmart/walmart.com while amazon will probably have to fight with other retailers that will buy through the same distributor they are going through. also...i'm more likely to believe walmart's ship date (assuming that is when everyone will get shipments) than amazon's since walmart is probably getting that info direct from Garmin and not through a distributor like Amazon is.
just my $0.02...that it for what you may...i'm still waiting patiently for my order to arrive @ tvnav but wouldn't hesistate to buy from somewhere else if i can get it sooner...it's been quite a long wait :)
cohenc
07-20-2003, 08:30 AM
I think what Moose was saying was that Wal Mart is not known for or frequented by shoppers that want high end, very specialized electronic products. Hey, I shop at Wal Mart, I'm not saying all their shoppers are low-class, low-income trash. What I'm merely suggesting is that theyr demographic isn't the Garmin iQue 3600 purchaser -- and I think you would agree.
And if they don't expect to sell many of these, then they would be lower on the chain to receive them in the initial, short batch, shipments. Yeah, if Wal Mart could sell the $99 Geco (or whatever it's called), they would help the manufacturer. But Wal Mart doesn't sell too many $600 items at all, let alone a PDA that apeals to only the fringe of the luxury gadget audience, like us.
Cheers,
Caleb
And if they don't expect to sell many of these, then they would be lower on the chain to receive them in the initial, short batch, shipments. Yeah, if Wal Mart could sell the $99 Geco (or whatever it's called), they would help the manufacturer. But Wal Mart doesn't sell too many $600 items at all, let alone a PDA that apeals to only the fringe of the luxury gadget audience, like us.
Cheers,
Caleb
Moose Man
07-20-2003, 11:55 AM
The #1 retailer in USA is not known for being "cutting edge" the technology retailer. If you look at the typical Walmart foot print with in their tech departments - it's small compared to the rest of the brick and mortar area.
Walmart probably found out about the iQue from one of their employees rather than from Garmin's sales personnel. Thus got on the band wagon late. As a manufacturer, Garmin should be responding to those "distributors" that placed early orders and fulfill them first before turning to the late comers.
Caleb's correct: Walmart doesn't sell to many $600 items. I would never consider going to Walmart to purchase a PDA or any other electronic device unless I had already researched it at various other locations and simply discovered that Walmart had a lower price. Also, in my experience the tech knowledge level behind the Walmart counter is very low.
Think about it - has Walmart ever been the "exclusive" distributor of something electronic that has mass appeal. It's not their niche.
Amazon, Best Buy, Circuit City, Fry's as well as other's have an "electronic" reputation that Walmart can only dream of having.
Therefore, Garmin would and will do better by filling the pipeline at these other locations and internet shops - first!
Walmart probably found out about the iQue from one of their employees rather than from Garmin's sales personnel. Thus got on the band wagon late. As a manufacturer, Garmin should be responding to those "distributors" that placed early orders and fulfill them first before turning to the late comers.
Caleb's correct: Walmart doesn't sell to many $600 items. I would never consider going to Walmart to purchase a PDA or any other electronic device unless I had already researched it at various other locations and simply discovered that Walmart had a lower price. Also, in my experience the tech knowledge level behind the Walmart counter is very low.
Think about it - has Walmart ever been the "exclusive" distributor of something electronic that has mass appeal. It's not their niche.
Amazon, Best Buy, Circuit City, Fry's as well as other's have an "electronic" reputation that Walmart can only dream of having.
Therefore, Garmin would and will do better by filling the pipeline at these other locations and internet shops - first!
robelz
07-23-2003, 03:22 PM
I just spoke to Garmin. The rep told me that the iQue was released yesterday (7/22) and that they started to ship.
Thanks
Robbie
Thanks
Robbie
Stymyx
07-23-2003, 03:39 PM
Halleluiah! :D
If it's true, of course! :eek:
If it's true, of course! :eek:
DeWat
07-23-2003, 03:57 PM
This is very possible, very good news. I just went to the Garmin site hoping that the manual would at least be available if they were shipping, but I can't get into the site. Hopefully, they're updating the page to show the status as shipping.
DeWat
DeWat
Stymyx
07-23-2003, 05:22 PM
The Garmin site is back up. No changes that I could see. No manual yet either. :(
jgarf
07-23-2003, 10:49 PM
Does anyone have a sense of what shipping quantities/dates will be like for TVNAV vs. Amazon? I've just learned about TVNAV from this forum, but it sounds like a lot of you have worked with them before. Do they get enough units vs. big retailers like Amazon?Their price is better - but will it take me months more to get a unit if I order now?
Moose Man
07-23-2003, 11:24 PM
If you go to the bottom of of TVNAV page and there you can join in the Yahoo Group. There is where Darrel will keep us posted about the shipping status on the iQue. At the moment, he has not received word about the specific number of units that he will receive as part of the initial shipment.
Yahoo Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GarminGPS/messages)
I posted the link above but I don't think it will work for you until you registered for the group.
I don't think it will take months from any specific vendor. It should be more like weeks if you just ordered. But at least at TVNAV - Darrel will keep us informed as to status once he receives details and I'm certain that very few other sites would be willing to do that.
Yahoo Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GarminGPS/messages)
I posted the link above but I don't think it will work for you until you registered for the group.
I don't think it will take months from any specific vendor. It should be more like weeks if you just ordered. But at least at TVNAV - Darrel will keep us informed as to status once he receives details and I'm certain that very few other sites would be willing to do that.
Stymyx
07-23-2003, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Moose Man
I don't think it will take months from any specific vendor. It should be more like weeks if you just ordered. But at least at TVNAV - Darrel will keep us informed as to status once he receives details and I'm certain that very few other sites would be willing to do that.
That is precisely why I ordered from TVNAV. Darrell has a great reputation and he keeps his customers informed.
Of course, it doesn't hurt that he may have the lowest price for the iQue! ;)
I don't think it will take months from any specific vendor. It should be more like weeks if you just ordered. But at least at TVNAV - Darrel will keep us informed as to status once he receives details and I'm certain that very few other sites would be willing to do that.
That is precisely why I ordered from TVNAV. Darrell has a great reputation and he keeps his customers informed.
Of course, it doesn't hurt that he may have the lowest price for the iQue! ;)
reinbeau
07-24-2003, 07:06 AM
That is precisely why I ordered from TVNAV. Darrell has a great reputation and he keeps his customers informed.
I do wish I'd known about TV Nav before I ordered. I ordered from J&H Products, they had a good price, but they aren't very communicative. We'll see.......
-Ann, eagerly awaiting her iQue 3600
I do wish I'd known about TV Nav before I ordered. I ordered from J&H Products, they had a good price, but they aren't very communicative. We'll see.......
-Ann, eagerly awaiting her iQue 3600
mahlon
07-26-2003, 08:31 PM
For what it's worth, the Garmin site says "Now Shipping"!
:D
We have not received them yet and the Manual is not available in the dealer only section of the site either.
:D
We have not received them yet and the Manual is not available in the dealer only section of the site either.
GPSLady
07-31-2003, 07:24 PM
Obviously Garmin is now shipping iQue's, but just to let you know, they are dividing up their meager initial shipments into partial deliveries to most of their vendors who ordered early, even Amazon (which got 50-100 initially). From our first order of 50 (which was made the same day as it was announced), we received 5 last Friday and 20 on Weds. We are getting 10 more on Monday. Getting iQue's is like pulling teeth (or water torture).
As production ramps up, larger shipments from Taiwan should start coming soon. Remember that, initially, after Garmin gets them in the U.S., they do a 100% inspection to try and weed out problem units. Supposedly, for the problem they had last week, they are now able to test for it also.
We have 160 units that we ordered within the first 3 weeks, and so we are hoping that maybe we can get those within the first three weeks of shipment. Honestly, its impossible to predict, when we are only getting a few units here and there from a sizeable order. For all of the other dealers, who are giving you various August dates, they are trying, but we are all in the same boat, until production rates level out and become more predictable.
So we wait with the rest of you and read all of the comments. Because we can't keep one to play with, when we have so many pre-ordered.
Have fun & keep us posted!
Jo Ann (AdventureGPS)
P.S. If you have an order with us - be sure we have all of your order info so that your shipment is not delayed. Ask for me if you like.
As production ramps up, larger shipments from Taiwan should start coming soon. Remember that, initially, after Garmin gets them in the U.S., they do a 100% inspection to try and weed out problem units. Supposedly, for the problem they had last week, they are now able to test for it also.
We have 160 units that we ordered within the first 3 weeks, and so we are hoping that maybe we can get those within the first three weeks of shipment. Honestly, its impossible to predict, when we are only getting a few units here and there from a sizeable order. For all of the other dealers, who are giving you various August dates, they are trying, but we are all in the same boat, until production rates level out and become more predictable.
So we wait with the rest of you and read all of the comments. Because we can't keep one to play with, when we have so many pre-ordered.
Have fun & keep us posted!
Jo Ann (AdventureGPS)
P.S. If you have an order with us - be sure we have all of your order info so that your shipment is not delayed. Ask for me if you like.
tvnav
08-29-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by mstgsh
I too ordered early from Amazon - on April 28th. I don't know when they started selling there, but at that time they were quite strongly promoting the iQue. A featured new product, on the early adapters list, etc. Very powerful and valuable stuff. Garmin owes Amazon big, Thanks for the opportunity to learn and contribute.
David
How so???? Amazon isn't even a Garmin direct dealer.
I too ordered early from Amazon - on April 28th. I don't know when they started selling there, but at that time they were quite strongly promoting the iQue. A featured new product, on the early adapters list, etc. Very powerful and valuable stuff. Garmin owes Amazon big, Thanks for the opportunity to learn and contribute.
David
How so???? Amazon isn't even a Garmin direct dealer.
mstgsh
08-29-2003, 07:21 PM
I don't know how it works Darrel. Maybe as a dealer you should ask Garmin. All I know is early on Amazon was promoting the product heavily. Maybe briefly, but heavily. Now, I don't know how that's arranged, but I'd guess straight from Garmin and not just a distributor. I have no idea what the arrangement is or was. Ultimately, I did not buy from Amazon, as they couldn't even report what day it was correctly, let alone when one might expect shipment, I cancelled and bought elsewhere (one of your competitiors, presumbably). I don't know what the supply situation is now, but then (3 weeks ago), it was pretty spotty. How's the supply now? My interest in Amazon is primarily as a tool to monitor the sales of Garmin's new products, as I'm (too) invested in GRMN and nervous. I think the iQue's a winner, though. I love mine. All of their products appear to be doing very well; it's a booming business, and I wish you well in it!
Cheers,
David
Cheers,
David
tvnav
08-29-2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by mstgsh
I don't know how it works Darrel. Maybe as a dealer you should ask Garmin. All I know is early on Amazon was promoting the product heavily. Maybe briefly, but heavily. Now, I don't know how that's arranged, but I'd guess straight from Garmin and not just a distributor. Cheers,
David
Amazon buys from a distributor, not from Garmin.
We have a few iQue's in stock at this time.
I don't know how it works Darrel. Maybe as a dealer you should ask Garmin. All I know is early on Amazon was promoting the product heavily. Maybe briefly, but heavily. Now, I don't know how that's arranged, but I'd guess straight from Garmin and not just a distributor. Cheers,
David
Amazon buys from a distributor, not from Garmin.
We have a few iQue's in stock at this time.
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