Sites linked to the "Netbook Pro" petition

[cangiante]

Hello everybody,

I am trying to develop a comprehensive list of websites who have a link to the netBook pro petition.
Here is the first draft. I managed to divide it into three categories:
1) developers and enthusiasts
2) forums
3) e-magazines and the like.

developers and enthusiasts are kindly encouraged to mention and spread the word of the petition on their own sites.

cheers

gianluca


DEVELOPERS AND ENTHUSIASTS

Martin Guthrie
www.pscience5.net

Sergio Alisi
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bridge/1492/

Keita Kawabe
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/~ktkawabe/

Kevin Millican
www.millican.info

Martin Maxwell Harnevie:
http://www.dp.com.my/indexMain.htm

Max Westen
http://netbook.rc6.org/

Mike Mc Connell
http://home.clara.net/m-mcconnell/Whatsnew.htm



2) INTERNET FORUMS

Psionplace
http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18259
http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19317

thanks to Julie Campbell (alias netBookbabe)
PEAT forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peatlist/message/982
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peatlist/message/983
symbcity forum
http://www.symbcity.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1704

thanks to Martin Maxwell Harnevie
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13790

thanks to Edward Hasbrouck who was the first to tell about the psionplace thread about the new nB pro on the Epoc Digest

thanks to Michael Degn / pdanmark forum
http://www.pdanmark.dk/forum/pop_printer_friendly.asp?TOPIC_ID=3785

thanks to King Midas / mypsion.ru forum
http://www.mypsion.ru/extnews.php?482

thanks to Luc Millard a.k.a. Petiluc / pocket pc france forum
http://www.pocketpcfrance.info/forums/ViewTopic.asp?ForumID=10&PostID=18345
www.impassepsion.com/forums/ViewForum.asp?ForumID=13


thanks to Asri Albaker / mysymbianusers.com
www.mysymbianusers.com/
http://www.mysymbianusers.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=23&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0&POSTNUKESID=71197cc4a95790f4e04c832a666a9be2

thanks to Kevin
http://disc.server.com/Indices/167596.html

symbian.info forum (benelux / Dutch language)
http://www.symbian.info/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4929

handdator.com forum (svezia)
http://www.handdator.com/forum/visa_inlagg.asp?src=group&group_id=15&message_id=24052&page=1

thanks to Daniele and Walter who brought the news from psionplace to the italian mailing list
psion_fans_italia (private forum, login needed)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psion_fans_italia/message/1813
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psion_fans_italia/message/1824
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psion_fans_italia/message/1897
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psion_fans_italia/message/1919
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psion_fans_italia/message/1960
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psion_fans_italia/message/1961
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psion_fans_italia/message/1998


E-MAGAZINES/E-NEWS

thanks to Thomas (alias mobilix)
http://www.mobile2day.de/news/news_details.html?nd_ref=1692
http://www.mobile2day.de/platform_psion/news/news_details.html?nd_ref=1725
http://www.psionwelt.de/news/start1.php3?start=0
www.psionwelt.net/news/mobile/

http://www.handy.ru/showart.shtml?newsno=1328
(or www.handy.ru/news/news1328.html )
www.mo.com.ua/news/05_2003/23.htm

thanks to Keita (aka Ktkawabe)
http://symbian.pdablast.com/articles/2003/6/2003612-NetBook-Users-Start-Petition.html
http://a.hatena.ne.jp/ktkawabe/simple


thanks to Keita e Thomas
pdageek
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Jun/bpd20030613020403.htm

thanks to Albaker
http://pdabistro.hostsync.net/modul...=thread&order=0
http://nazley.blogspot.com/
http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=4815

the only available image of the nB pro until now:
www.pec-forum.com/convegni/MB_roma_novita.htm

[MartinMaxwell]

You have omitted your own contributions, e.g. EpocDigest the Italian forums you mentioned earlier.

www.howardforums.com is another smartphone-centric place I have done some postings to.

cheers
Martin Maxwell Harnevie

[ktkawabe]

Hi gianluca, thanks for your effort.

1) deveopers and enthusiasts
Rey
http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/rey/

googo (in his "Psion Search" database page)
http://www.wotakara.com/googo/navi/navi.cgi

2) forums
Well these are not actually forums but I have posted to three major Japanese mailing lists:

Psion-ML-J (832 subscribers, subscription needed to see the log)
http://www.freeml.com/ctrl/html/MessageListForm/psion-ml@freeml.com

Epocware ML (250 subscribers, subscription needed to see the log)
http://www.freeml.com/ctrl/html/MessageListForm/epocware@freeml.com

EPOC_UG ML (342 subscribers, subscription needed to see the log)
http://www.egroups.co.jp/group/epoc_ug

3) e-magazines and like
Symbcity guys finally updated their page:
http://www.symbcity.com

And it's really heartening to see the number of endorsers slowly but steadily increasing.
It's only one month since yan had posted the petition and now it is 966!

Cheers,
Keita

[ktkawabe]

Hi, it seems that these two Czech sites report about the petition. Thanks to you who sent some heads-up to them!
Palmware
http://www.palmare.cz/palmareport/palmareport030616.html

Technet
http://www.audionet.cz/win/pda/

[albaker]

Dear Gianluca,

This is from Malaysia:-

FORUMS (actually it is Malaysia's Psion Mailinglist)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PsiWiz/message/1706

Rgds
albaker

www.mysymbianusers.com

[cangiante]

I was glad to see that also an italian psion on-line distributor - run by Matteo Verlucca - joined in the list:

www.psion-it.com

As a consequence, we will add a fourth category in order to host such active supporters:

4) Psion distributors and VARs (Value Added Resellers)

In fact, I hope that other third parties such as VARs and distributors in general as well as software houses and the like will follow their example.

Hey out there! is anybody else reading this?

cheers

Gianluca

[cangiante]

To give credit where credit is due, Costantino Muzio was among the first italian psion lovers to sign the petition at
http://www.petitiononline.com/nbookpro/petition.html

now Costantino jumped at the chance of linking his site www.epocbooks.com at the petition for adding further visibility to our initiative.

we hope that other psion related sites will follow his example;)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

thanks to Julie and all the epocchat staff here is a new link to the petition:

http://www.epocchat.com/sponsors.html

the link is at the end of a list of sponsors.

what if the sponsors would evaluate to host a link to the petition themselves?

BTW, any others willing to host a link?

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

this is not a remake of a famous 007 film...
this is actually our psion-comrade Mr. Victor Kviat who most of you know as the brilliant author of freeware apps such as the Network Utilities for EPOC.

Victor joined in the petition promotion operation, by adding a nice banner to his website

http://itnat.kbsunet.ru/~vkv/psion/psion_en.htm

a fine example to be followed soon...;)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

http://www.palmare.cz/Epoc/Epoc_Hardware/nastupce_netbooku030609.html

this link is to be added to the e-magazine section

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Please excuse my sheer enthusiasm displayed in the subject for the most recent website who joined in the list of those supporting the nB pro petition:

http://faculty.washington.edu/dushaw/psion/netbook.html

it is actually Brian Dushaw's one. Not only Brian is a frequent Psionplace user, but also a real "Linux-on-Psion" guru as well!

so I am sure you will join me in thanking him very much for both his kind commitment and active support as well as inviting the other Psion-related websites to ensure maximum visibility to our initiative.

Symbianfully yours;)

Gianluca

PS: this morning we reached signature no. 1.000 and the number is steadily growing

[cangiante]

I am pretty confident you will have recognized the new link which has just added itself to the list of the "active supporters".

All these abbreviations displayed in the subject and ready to be expanded are Huub Linthorst's trademark.

http://website.leidenuniv.nl/~linthorsthjm/exabetal/

The brilliant author of ExAb, CodeSafe, S5mboles, SpellX and more, has just chosen to host a link to the petition and is currently spreading the word around a number of Ex Ab users and Benelux Symbian fans in general.

Hopefully, new endorsers as well as new links will follow...

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

The list of psion-related sites actively promoting the petition keeps on growing day by day...

now there is one more of them, which I am confident almost every netBook power user will have browsed on it more than once.

Please note I am not going to reveal either the webmaster's name or his nickname, but just his last name;) and let you guess the rest:

His family name is silvester

his website is http://www.silvester.org.uk

and now I am sure you will join me in saying the greatest THANKS we can to Yan Silvester a.k.a. DIEM

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

I would like to thank Michael Fellhauer for kindly hosting a link to the petition on the PEAT's site (Psion Enthusiasts Association of Toronto) a group for Psion, EPOC, and Symbian users:

http://www.phaedrav.com/peat/

as many of you will certainly know, Mississauga - where P/T headquarters are located - is right in the Toronto area;)

cheers

gianluca

[MartinG]

Hi Gianluca,

How about creating a banner (standard size) for those of us who display them on our sites? I saw Victor Kviat's but I guess I'd prefer either a) English only, or b) multiple languages instead of just English+Russian...

Thoughts?

Best regards,
Martin

[cangiante]

Originally posted by MartinG
Hi Gianluca,

How about creating a banner (standard size) for those of us who display them on our sites? I saw Victor Kviat's but I guess I'd prefer either a) English only, or b) multiple languages instead of just English+Russian...

Thoughts?

Best regards,
Martin

Ciao Martin,
I would love to have a multiple language banner for the petition.
you can count me in by now for translating the italian version of the banner text.
I am sure that others will follow for german, french, spanish, japanese, hungarian, polish, czech etc etc...
when are we going to start?
gianluca

[cangiante]

I would like to express my gratitude to Keith - a 79-year-old Psion power user (and trained biker as well) - who actually helped me in dealing with macro 5, by sending me his clear step-by-step guide.

It was my pleasure therefore to find a link to the petition on his very Psion-friendly site http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net/


thanks a million Keith for your active support and - as you write on the epoc digest - happy cycling ;)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

thanks to Martin Guthrie, here is a nice website where one can post something about the OS netBook pro issue:

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Jul/bpd20030716020847.htm

as Martin himself wrote on another thread here on psionplace
"Others might like to add more to warm things up a bit... ;) "

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Let me thank also Bioeddie (signature number 978) for his kind active support on his web site:

http://www.bioeddie.co.uk/months/July-2003.html

other psion-related sites will follow in the next few days.

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

this is just a comment I personally added on a site which was mentioning the news of the Win CE.net netbook pro

http://www.**********.com/default.asp?newsID=1488&showComments=true

...just another brick in the wall;)

cheers

gianluca

[Lewis]

Hi, Gianluca!

...just got my subscription copy of Computer Shopper ('September' issue!), this morning, and Alasdair Bailey has (as promised, I think) included a small piece on the netBook Pro, with a link to the petition, and a promise of more details of the machine, next month.

Regards, Lewis

[cangiante]

Hi folks!

Like many of you I am an Epoc Digest subscriber. I personally think that PsionPlace as well as the Epoc Digest are two real salvation stills for all the fellow psion users.

therefore I thought it was time to mention some contribution from "the Digest" and here is a claim which I liked so much that I would propose it for an award-nomination, if not for an oscar:)

It is actually a Mark Deppe's message, dated 9 Jun 2003, the very first petition day:

>From: Mark Deppe
>Subject: netbook petition, sign here

>Sign the great save the symbian netbook petition here :-) tell >your friends and businesses et al etc. etc.

>http://www.petitiononline.com/nbookpro/

>Kind regards

>Mark

I wish I could publicly thank Mark for his efforts in order to symbolically thank every committed psion fan who keeps on spreading the word of the petition around.;)

At the moment of this writing, the number of endorsers is close to 1.090...

cheers

gianluca

PS: It is great to see that the number of psion-related sites linking to the petition is growing day by day.

[netBookBabe]

gianluca

Do you still need a banner? I'm sure the EpocChat animated one, kindly designed for us by Anthony Hook, could be made available if it's suitable.

Julie

[cangiante]

Ciao Julie,
I think that more than one banner is underway...which is actually better than expected.
I think it would be nice to have a multilingual banner, as long as it is technically possible.
what do you think about that?
cheers
gianluca

PS: I have always wondered what was the meaning of "spangled" in english;)

[netBookBabe]

Originally posted by cangiante
PS: I have always wondered what was the meaning of "spangled" in english;) It means "shiny" or "sparkly" or "glittering". Does that help?

Julie

[cangiante]

Thanks to Henri Spagnolo, the author of MenuS5, the Symbian netBook pro petition topic is now a subject hosted also on this Psion-related site:

english page
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/YetAnotherHomePage/indexgb.html
french page
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/YetAnotherHomePage/indexfr.html

the list of sites linked to the petition is growing further and I'll update it in the next few days.

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Sure Ian has a very good memory, but those who actually forgot to sign the petition might just find useful to install his "my notes" app, which allows short notes to be entered (and tasks to be remembered).

http://home.planet.nl/~ian.chapple/epoc.htm

thank you Ian for your actively supporting the petition, which is now close to 1120 signatures:)

please do keep on spreading the word around

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Hi all!

thanks to the kind commitment of Jakub Smolik, author of apps such as WinEPOC, the petition has now a new link at his software house czech site:

English Version:
http://www.jssolutions.cz/

Czech Version:
http://www.jssolutions.cz/cze/index.php

Not only Jakub is a software developer, but he is also a journalist as well. You may remember the link we were talking a few days ago when we posted the following, which included an article about the petition written by him

http://www.palmare.cz/Epoc/Epoc_Hardware/nastupce_netbooku030609.html

Many other sites are under way, so please... stay connected;)

ciao

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao everybody!

Here is an example of some netBook - enthusiasts who jumped at the chance of promoting the petition on their own site.

It is my pleasure to introduce the Koch Family from Germany:

http://home.t-online.de/home/uwe.koch/computer/epoc/psion.html

they are a very good example to follow... would you agree?

therefore, please keep on spreading the word about the petition and gather support at http://www.petitiononline.com/nbookpro/petition.html

cheers

gianluca

PS: other sites are under way... do check this post out tomorrow evening;)

[cangiante]

This post may be particularly interesting for all those dealing with customers and calls, such as sales representatives as well as customer service ones and the like...

Please welcome Epotech, run by Phil Dixon, author of TTContact, the powerful contacts & visit manager for epoc machines.

Not only Phil did sign the petition, but he also hosted a link on his site:

http://www.epotech.co.uk/

other link hosts will follow tomorrow and in the next few days.

ciao

gianluca

PS: at the time of writing, signature number reached 1174;)

[cangiante]

Once again, please excuse my sheer enthusiasm, but I simply thought that there was no better title than the above one to welcome probably one of the most popular sites among the ones mentioning the petition.

Thanks to the kind contribution of Elisabeth Liddel (FoxPop editor), our initiative has now a link on the foxpop site.

http://www.foxpop.co.uk/newsviews/News1.htm

and

http://www.foxpop.co.uk/EPOCcover.htm

It is therefore my pleasure to announce this and I wish I could express my gratitude to Elisabeth for doing so.

FoxPop has always been one of the strongest reference point for me when it was time to look for information about the Epoc world and consequently I am very happy about their support.

Other sites are following in the next few days, so... stay connected;)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

this post is about the fact that the petition is being widely discussed in several different language.

I would like to express my gratitude for the outstanding work displayed by our fellow psion russian comrades such as King Midas and Robin Hood.

Midas is the moderator of Mypsion.ru, on which you will find a nice banner in Russian language dealing with the petition

www.mypsion.ru

Robin - author of apps such as epoc task manager, alarmplus and resetplus - added the above-mentioned banner in the english version, this time, to every program of his which is available on Mypsion.ru . the result is as follows:

http://www.mypsion.ru/alarmplus.php
http://www.mypsion.ru/taskman.php
http://www.mypsion.ru/montana.php
http://www.mypsion.ru/montana7.php
http://www.mypsion.ru/moonclock.php
http://www.mypsion.ru/qmm.php
http://www.mypsion.ru/moonclock.php
http://www.mypsion.ru/resetplus.php
http://www.mypsion.ru/revosound.php
http://www.mypsion.ru/strippoker.php

Not only these two guys did so, but also Midas posted a message on http://www.hpc.ru/news/nw/81/8183.shtml as well, thus allowing for further visibility on a website dealing with pdas in general.

Surely this commitment brought many results, as I am sure most of you will have noticed the growing number of russian signatures on the petition endorsers' list.

Therefore, I am sure you will join in saying to Midas and Robin our biggest
T H A N K S and keeping on spreading the word of the petition around.

stay connected... other sites are following;) ;) ;)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao everybody!

Please welcome Mr. Andy Nott who added a note about the petition on his very nice site:

http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.nott/

http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.nott/s5news.htm

It was great of Andy to support our initiative thus allowing for giving it further visibility and awareness.

it is an example which is being followed...

see you tomorrow evening;)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao Everybody!

thanks to the kind support of John Montgomery, the petition has now a link on his site, which is widely known for his java psion link.

as most of you will probably know it is a very interesting program. I quote from John's site: "Java Psion Link (JPL), is intended to be a cross-platform solution for transferring files between Psion Epoc PDAs (netBook, series 7, 5Mx, revo) and any computer with a serial port and the ability to run java". among the list you can include also Apple, for instance...

http://website.lineone.net/~john.montgomery/psionlink/

thanks again to everybody committed into promoting the petition and... please stay connected for other updates;)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Thanks to Michael Degn, the petition has now a link also on his danish site:

http://www.degn.esenet.dk/nyheder.htm

I am sure that many of you already know Mike as one of the "Epoc Digest team" as well as being one of the moderators of PDAnmark.dk

As a result, his personal support adds further value to the list of sites promoting the petition.

hope that this may be a good example for others too;)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Hi everybody!

No, the hot italian climate has not brought mirages to myself...

what you have just read in the title is not a new app from the brilliant software house known as RMR...

it is actually RMR hosting a link to the petition on their homepage:
http://www.rmrsoft.com/

I am sure you will join me in thanking AL for his support and keep on spreading around the word of the petition (at the moment we have just surpassed 1235 signatures)...

ciao

gianluca

[cangiante]

Thanks to Rolf Vonau, the brilliant author of Dighandler, the petition has now a link on his website:

http://home.arcor.de/rhvonau/index.htm

Rolf hosts many other useful links as well as some apps which you may find useful in order to manage - and somehow to boost - your email program.

Moreover, Rolf is one of the Epoc Digest team, which is a very useful source of information for every psion power user.

other sites are following... so please check this post out in the next few days;)

ciao

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao Everybody!

Please welcome Adrian Pemsel, a brilliant software developer who - on a very personal basis - signed in favour of the petition and kindly hosted a link on his own site:

http://www.adrianpemsel.de/Links/

As you may have seen, there are plenty of German-speaking sites supporting the petition, and others will be following in the newt few days.

cheers

Gianluca

PS: the number of endorsers reached 1265 and is still growing steadily despites the vacation time;)

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

thanks to the kind support of Jon Read
the petition has now a link on www.epoczone.com
here is the actual sentence tha Jone wrote on this site:

"Would you like to see an EPOC option on the forthcoming netBook Pro from Psion Teklogix? If so, click here to sign the petition!"

I want to express my gratitude to Jon and i believe you will do the same, won't you?;)

cheers

gianluca

PS: 1275 endorsers, and the number keeps on growing despite the long hot summer :)

[cangiante]

Hello everybody!

we were talking a few days ago about the support given by the german-speaking power users. here is another case of the petition speaking German:

http://www.psion-user-club.at/l_menu.html

and

http://www.symbian-user-club.at/l_menu.html

I have just received a message from the staff at Mobile Times Business Club / PSION User Club Team in which they tell us they have linked their sites to the petition as well as spoken about the petition in the newsletter dated june 23rd.

other sites are following... and the number of endorsers reached 1285

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao Everybody,

German-speaking people confirm themselves as being particularly active in promoting the petition. here you will find another example which IMHO is particularly important as it is a reseller, this time, joining in the initiative.

Please welcome Christoph from www.pulster.de who has just put a link on his site:

http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?d__netbookpro__Netbook_PRO364.htm

I am glad that Christoph joined in and I hope that other resellers and distributors will follow his example and take an active part in the petition. their support would definitely add weight and therefore value to our initiative.

Please check this post regularly, as I am going to add some more news regarding very interesting sites which are going to host a link, and - among them - there is a pretty big one... but i will keep it as a surprise

Gianluca

PS: 1307 endorsers tonight... and the campaign is still going on

[cangiante]

Hello everybody!

today I'll be mentioning one of the most exhaustive netbook-related sites I have ever browsed on:

It is Edward Hasbrouck's one, which is full of detailed notes about using the netbook in various situations as well as a comprehensive report about his experience in buying a Malaybook.

I suppose you will be joining me in thanking Edward - a regular psionplace member - for his contribution on his very nice site.

in fact Edward actually added a brief description, endorsement, and link to the petition at http://hasbrouck.org/netbook

I hope that others will follow his example very soon in keeping on promoting the word of the petition.

happy summer;-)

gianluca

[cangiante]

Hi folks!

No, please don let you be misunderstood by the above.
I am not going to say anything nasty and will not sing that famous song from the Depeche Mode either.

I am here just to mention the contribute of a fellow italian Psion-enthusiast whose name is Davide and nickname is Blasfemo, respectively.

the fact is that - once again - the petition is getting spoken in various languages and, among these, there is Italian as well.

www.timewalker.it/epocgalaxy

this site is also a strong reference point for every italian dealing with gsm/gprs connections.

Not only Blasfemo kindly hosted a link on his precious site, but also hosted the Italian translation of the petition as well, thus enabling those who may be not familiar with english to fully understand the meaning of the initiative.

Thanks Davide for your effort!

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

I am glad to update the list of the sites with a new project which has just been announced on the Epoc Digest: the Psion Computer Journal & Society, run by Will Green at:

http://www.psioncomputer.com/

You will notice that Will managed to persuade also Uncle Sam to join in the petition promotion.

BTW, the journal will start its publication with the Autumn edition (October).

Will kindly points out that the The Psion Computer Journal nor the Psion Computer Society have no connection at all with Psion the company.

I am sure that you will join me in thanking Will for his kind support as well as wishing him the very best for his new initiative

cheers

gianluca

PS: the list of sites hosting a link is steadily growing
as well as the number of endorsers which is now 1328

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

the petition is being promoted also by many Dutch people. In fact,
thanks to Jaap Lameris, the petition has now a link on his site:

http://home.hccnet.nl/j.lameris/mypsion.htm

Jaap is the author of apps such as Biklog, Saillog and Atmos and he, besides having signed in favour of the petition, has kindly hosted a link as well.

Thanks a million Jaap for your kind support!

Other Benelux sites are following and therefore... do check out this post in the next few days.

cheers

gianluca

PS: 1333 endorsers at the time of writing

[cangiante]

Ciao everybody!

Once again, please excuse my sheer enthusiasm but there is one more big symbian-related sites in joining into the petition word spreading.

It is my pleasure to post this message dealing with Symbian.info, the strongest Symbian/Epoc reference point for all Benelux users.

therefore I am sure you will join me in welcoming Mr. Robert Harmsen, elected chairman of the Benelux Symbian User Group since 2000, who kindly took the time to write a personal message to the whole forum:

http://www.symbian.info/forums/showthread.php?threadid=5320

In this message, which has been repeated also on the news section - Robert mentioned the point about Netbook and pointed the readers to some stories about the current situation and asked them to sign the petition.

Thanks a billion Robert for your kind effort and active support!

other sites are following in the next few days so do keep in touch

cheers

gianluca

PS: 1357 endorsers these evening... the wall of 1350 has been broken;-)

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

Once again, I indeed have the pleasure to introduce another
important site promoting the on-line petition.

therefore, let me express my gratitude to one of my
biggest Epoc/Symbian hero around, whose name is Steve and family name is Litchfield, respectively...

if you browse on over his excellent site
http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/
you will find a link to the petition as well as an invitation to sign in favour of it.

it is undoubtedly great being part of this community and the support coming from epoc/symbian authorities such as
Steve also adds further value to our initiative.

in the meantime, the number of endorsers reached 1373...

keep on supporting the petition!

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

this is a special post as the number of signatures has just reached 1408...

I would like to express my gratitude to another website which has joined in spreading the petition word around. it is actually Gary Hitchen's one:

http://www.cix.co.uk/~ghh/

Thanks very much, Gary for your support!

both the number of endorsers and the number of websites linked to the petition keep on growing, therefore do keep in touch on this thread;-)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

These evening I am mentioning another site which talks about the petition using a different language than English.

this one is another fellow Italian Epoc power user;-)

Please welcome prof. Luciano Masci from Poggio Mirteto (in the heart of the Bassa Sabina area, about 50 kms from Rome, Italy) who is running the local section of the life-saving office on behalf of the Italian Swimming Federation (FIN Salvamento - Poggio Mirteto)

http://www.ilsalvamento.it

Not only Luciano signed in favour of the petition, but he also hosted the Italian translation, so that every visitor of his site could manage to get to know and understand the whole spirit of our initiative.

It is an excellent example of how the petition can be supported and promoted, don't you agree?

therefore I suppose you will join me in thanking Luciano for his kind effort and hail the 1479th endorser who have just signed
a few minutes ago.

do keep in touch!

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao everybody!

This is a special post due to the fact that the number of endorsers has reached 1500 (actually 1515 at the time of writing).

Therefore, this calls for a celebration and there is a special guest with us this afternoon:

Please welcome Mr. Alex Skilton whom most of you know for being a neuon member and author of several EPOC apps
as well as a moderator at EpocChat.

Alex put the petition link on the most popular pages at skilton.net:

http://www.skilton.net
http://www.skilton.net/converter.htm

and also on the 5mx compactflash issues page:

http://www.skilton.net/5mx

thanks a million Alex for your kind support and commitment.

The signatures keep on growing as well as the linked sites...
as a result, do keep in touch!

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Hello everybody!

tonight we will be speaking about the petition being discussed on the newsgroups. There are many thread concerning the petition and I chose these four:

1) thanks to Marc Fortin who wrote on a french newsgroup:
http://groups.google.it/groups?q=psion+%22netbook+pro%22&hl=it&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=ed7ced8.0307191306.4189a7fc%40posting.google. com&rnum=10

2) thanks to Daniel Harker (psionplace forum member)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psion/message/920

3) thanks to some psionplace and epoc digest members who discussed the topic here
http://groups.google.it/groups?hl=it&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=bgrlie%24qakpf%241%40ID-89693.news.uni-berlin.de&rnum=6&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dpsion%2B%2522netbook%2Bpro%2522%26hl% 3Dit%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3Dbgrlie%2524qakpf%25241%2540ID-89693.news.uni-berlin.de%26rnum%3D6

4) and it is not over... also an italian bloke you may have
heard about posted a message on this Italian Newsgroup:it.comp.hardware.palmari
http://groups.google.it/groups?q=psion+%22netbook&hl=it&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=ac438270.0308011411.63588b0d%40posting.google .com&rnum=5

that's all for now... se you at the next occasion;-)

cheers

gianluca

PS: 1522 endorsers at the time of writing

[Mobilix]

PuPsis Psionshop at Pulster.de (http://www.pulster.de) also links to the petition - in the netBook area...

Ciao
Mobilix

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

French users seem to be rather interested in the future of the netBook pro.

here is CLUB PDA:

http://www.cabuzel.com/psion/indexnew.php?cuprofil=1111&menu=actu&sousmenu=liste

they mention both the petition initiative and the french translation performed by PetiLuc on another thread of psionplace.

BTW, when browsing the above-mentioned site, I came across the site called http://www.osaris.net/ where Marc Fortin
is currently advertizing for his new freeware app. called MyPsion 2003... you may well have a look in case you are interested in knowing more about that...

thanks everybody committed to the petition issue...
the threshold of 1550 endorsers is just underway!

cheers
gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

We are celebrating the 1550th endorsers by mentioning - once again - a french website who has just joined in the petition promotion. it seems that the French Psion Users are particularly active in this final part of August...

it is actually Marc Fortin's website:

www.osaris.net

cheers

Gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

here is another site which is linked to the petition, thanks to a scandinavian friend, known as Mr Worm:

http://213.243.170.17/MrWorm/17

Well, I guess it should be time to post a summary of the list of the sites linked to the petition page and I'll try to prepare in the next days.

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

while the endorsers' number reached quota 1647 at the time of writing this post, please have a look at another link which has just been added to our list.

Once again, thanks to Asri Albaker, founder of I-Symbian.com, the first and only Malaysian forum dedicated to Symbian PDAs and Smartphones, for his repeated efforts in promoting the petition:

www.i-symbian.com

In the next few days, a number of other sites will follow...

therefore, please check this post regularly;-)

cheers

gianluca

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

While celebrating the 1685th endorser of the Symbian netBook pro petition i would like to acknowledge the support of NewLC, the first Symbian C++ developers community web site.

http://www.newlc.com/

http://www.newlc.com/article.php3?id_article=181

Thanks very much Eric for your kind commitment and support and please keep on spreading the word around ;)

[cangiante]

Ciao All!

thanks to Andrea Vicentini, a fellow italian Epoc supporter, the petition reached quota 1700 endorsers (actually 1707 at the time of writing).

In the meantime, signature number 1701 belongs to Anatoli Arkhipenko the author of apps such as multicontacts.

http://www.multicontacts.net

I quote Anatoli from his "what's going on" page:
"Together we can make it happen!
Together we can preserve our favorite Psion devices from becoming a Windows-only platform"

Thanks Anatoli for your commitment and support:I hope your example will be followed soon by other developers and enthusiasts.

[cangiante]

Ciao All,

I would like to express my gratitude to a developer who is also a daily user of this forum and has found a very creative and original way to promote the petition initiative

I am confident that every Psion Place member knows Sir Chris S. Handley, author of several applications, the latest of which has been just released on the FreEpoc site.

I am talking about FastBackup, which is being announced in the software sub-forum here on Psion Place.

In the Help data file which is included in the app., Chris talks about the petition and expresses his personal opinions about it.

I quote from his message:

"Here are some of the reasons (opinions) that I think a Netbook Pro running Symbian OS would make a great deal of sense, even if Psion Teklogix's narrow market view has excluded them so far:

Many of the existing EPOC (now Symbian) software developers have expressed an interest in seeing the Symbian OS on the Netbook Pro, and would apparently be quite keen on (easily) porting their current applications to it, even if the immediate return was not great. This would ensure a good software base for consumers.

The Symbian OS is likely to be the most common OS on smart phones in the next few years, certainly it won't be niche, so that there seems a clear market for a robust sub-notebook "laptop" with 8 hour battery life, instant-on, running the same software & seamlessly sharing documents with such phones.

With the manufacture of existing NetBooks winding down, there exists no way for existing Psion Teklogix business customers to buy more NetBooks, because the new NetBook Pros will generally require completely new software to be written for them. It is much easier for such customers to modify their software to work on Symbian OS, and some may not wish to tie themselves to Microsoft."

Note: Chris kindly points out that his opinions are very personal and stated here do not necessarily reflect the views of FreEPOC.

What a surprisingly innovative way to promote the petition,
don't you agree?

Therefore, thanks very much Chris for your great commitmente and support and keep up the very good work!

(1746 endorsers at the time of writing and the number keeps on growing ...);)

[cangiante]

Ciao all...

I would like to publically express my gratitude to Sammy
Mc Loughlin - Webmaster and editor of Handheld Addict
- for having posted a link to the petition on his site.

for those of you who do not know the handheld addict website, it may be interesting to know that is a devoted site for HPC enthusiasts run by HPC enthusiasts.

Not only they mentioned the original press release of the nB pro win ce.net, but they gave room to our initiative as well:

http://jornada720club.blogspot.com/

or

http://jornada720club.blogspot.com/2003_10_01_jornada720club_archive.html

thanks very much Sammy for your kind support - which adds further value to the petition - and hope that your example will be followed by other sites:-)

1760 endorsers at the time of writing and the number keeps on growing...

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

it is now sunday night and you might be looking for something funny to cheer up your starting working week.

here is the one;-)
please welcome some M$ evangelists from the following site:

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/1408.html

Later, they ended up with the news submission of the petition thing and they kindly dedicated us some precious space of their site:

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/1416.html

it was very kind of them and - as a result - they are eligible of this post, together with the other sites linked to the petition.

BTW, I think also that the fact that the petition reached quota 1920 deserves a special dedication.

therefore, please join in saluting another Symbian petition going on at petition on line, that is www.petitiononline.com/a920/petitionhtml

it seems that our initiative is somehow trendy, isn't it ;-)?

all the very best

[cangiante]

I am borrowing a connection from a public place to post just a few quick words to welcome the 2000th and 2001st endorsers:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?nbookpro&1

That's all for now

[cangiante]

Originally posted by cangiante
please join in saluting another Symbian petition going on at petition on line, that is www.petitiononline.com/a920/petitionhtml

it seems that our initiative is somehow trendy, isn't it ;-)?




Ciao all!

you may have noticed that there is a third Symbian-related petition at petitiononline.com:

http://www.petitiononline.com/p800/petition.html

Sony Ericsson is kindly requested to give the opportunity of an upgrade from the current UIQ 2.0 version to the new UIQ 2.1 (which will be one of the main novelties of the new P900 smartphone).

If you browse around the signatures you will easily recognize some familiar endorsers among the most frequent posters at psionplace ;)

I have already signed in favour of it, both because the fact that a P800 has been one of my biggest temptations and the fact I believe it is a right cause to battle for.

No matter how hard these tasks may seem, especially when you face a big multinational business such as S.E. and the like. I personally believe that we have to take position as consumers and stand for what we think it is right...

(2.022 endorsers for the Symbian netbook pro petition at the time of writing and the number keeps on growing)

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

No, I have not gone to NZ yet, unfortunately, even if I am pretty confident it would be worth of a visit.

I just want to acknowledge another link to the petition and thank
Mauricio Freitas (a.k.a. Freitasm) - geekzone admin - who kindly hosted it and mentioned our initiative:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=1781

Thanks very much Mauricio for your kind support!

(2027 endorsers at the time of writing...)

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

please welcome Dr. Shane Mc Kee - former head at Palmaris Medical - who is the latest in hosting a link to the Symbian netbook pro petition:

http://www.shanemckee.utvinternet.ie/

Shane is the author of apps such as Client_L which is probably the world's favourite Psion patient / client manager .

Thanks Shane for your kind contribution!

it is nice to see such developers enlarging the list of sites linked to the petition as well as the growing number of endorsers (2070 at the time of writing)

all the very best

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

here in Milan we have been enjoying blue sky and a gourgeus sunny day for two days now (which is surely something to celebrate!), thanks to a strong wind blowing... hope that it keeps on doing so until Xmas;)

Much better than a postcard, I have just received an email from Dmitri Brechalov, a Russian developer, who is author of several freeware apps among whose you have MetroMap (Russian Subway Maps).

Dmitri kindly has just added a link to the petition on his site:

http://dbrechalov.narod.ru/library/Soft4Psion/english.htm

I have beautiful memories of Moscow as I had the chance to experience a short stopover therer a few years ago

Thanks to Dmitri, who was also one of the very first in signing in favour of the Symbian Netbook Pro Petition as well as to all the other fellow endorsers who are keeping on spreading the word around (2135 signatures at the time of writing and the number keeps on growing steadily ;) )

[cangiante]

Ciao All!

the 2150th signature has just been posted and in the meantime another site has just joined in the linking promotion:

PLS welcome Sebastian Mate from Germany, author of PSIMIDI for ER5:

http://home.arcor.de/sebmate/psion_e.htm

thanks Sebastian for your kind support and all the very best for 2004!

BTW, I had looked for years to a midi app for my psion machine and look forward for the development of a netbook-targeted version.

it should be time for making a summary of the petition links going on and I wish I could do it in the next few days... hope to find some time off for that.

all the very best and happy 2004 to everybody

[cangiante]

Ciao all,

before sending you all my best greetings for a happy 2004, I am extremely glad to add one more site to the list of those ones linked to the petition:

http://www.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/psion/
(link corrected after reading Gareth's reply;) )

Many of you will already know Gareth JM Saunders as being one of the long-time dedicated psion-friendly sites, and therefore I am sure you will join in thanking Gareth for his kind commitment and support:)

all the very best to you all for 2004

(2164 endorsers at the time of writing and the number keeps on growing steadily;)

[pottingshed]

If you want to link to my website please use the following URL:

http://www.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/psion/

rather than the Blueyonder one, as I am about to move web servers and the blueyonder webspace will be used for something else. (The garethjmsaunders.co.uk domain will always point to the correct webspace.)

Thanks again folks! and Happy New Year...

(Revd) Gareth J M Saunders
Edinburgh, Scotland, UK

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

I thought that it was time to post a summary of the active links and the like. I'll start this morning with attaching the petition banners which were prepared in the last months.

Let me thank the following gentlemen, who actually prepared the respective banners and who are authenthic authorities when it comes down to Symbian/Epoc/Psion-related matters, in strictly alphabetical order:) :

Anthony Hook,
Victor Kviat,
King Midas,
Alex Skilton

Here attached you will find their banners.

(next post will be following soon and will be dealing with the links to developers' and software houses' sites;))

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

I know, I know... you were waiting for the link summary, but I have been busier than expected with other issues (textile issues, actually and no much time was left for posting on psionplace as well as on the epoc digest ... not even mentioning chatting at Epoc Chat in the last month...

BTW I have just come back after a series of textile exhibitions in Europe (sounds like a tour, but in fact it wasn't) and I am more than happy to post a brief message about a new link to the petition.

it cames actually from Jean Buchet, a French OPL developer who kindly joined the long list of those advertising for the petition campaign:

http://jbuchet.chez.tiscali.fr/index.htm

those willing to try some of his macros may also browse over the following link:
http://jbuchet.chez.tiscali.fr/macros/macrosjb.htm

thanks Jean for your kind contribution and all the very best to you and your family :)

that's all for now, hope to be right back in the next few days...
(2244 endorsers at the time of writing;) )

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

I am glad to announce another link to the petition hosted by a Psion-related website:

it is actually the French Psion-related website called Cabuzel / Club PDA, which cares of EpocBoulevard (that should sound like EpocAvenue in English):

http://www.cabuzel.com/psion/indexnew.php?cuprofil=1111&menu=actu&sousmenu=liste

Once again, the petition issue is being spoken in several different language besides English, such as French, German, Russian and... Italian;)

Hope to see you soon with another update...

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

I suppose that most of you will have followed the very interesting Netbook Pro review by John Stolk in the netBook section.

Not only did John perform a very detailed comparison between the Netbook pro CE.net and the netBook Symbian OS v. 5.0, but he also added a petition banner as well:

http://www.johnstolk.com/Psion/index.htm

I am sure you will join in thanking John for his kind contribution, which adds further value to this initiative.
(2260 endorsers at the time of writing, and the number keeps on growing steadily);)

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

I am more than glad to post this message: in fact, here is another site joining in the long list of links to the petition initiative:

http://www.five-alive.net/news.php

five-alive is actually an International Portal optimized for PDA and Smartphone.

Let me thank Karsten Koos for his kind contribution and - I literally quote his magnificent expression - adhesion to the "symbian netbook pro movement":)

I am sure you will join in expressing our gratitude to Karsten for his kind commitment as well as thanking Ray Mayhew for having started a thread about the petition in the netbook pro section here at psionplace: "Say something and be counted while it still matters", as written by Ray himself...

(2275 endorsers at the time of writing and the number *still* keeps on growing;) )

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

I suppose that some of you may remember an unforgettable Sofia Loren introducing Roberto Benigni during the Oscar night a few years ago...

well, PLS welcome another important name in terms of OPL and Symbian - related material:

Roberto Colistete Jr - Brazilian with Italian origins - joined the Symbian netBook pro petition promotion on his website:

http://www.robertocolistete.net/OPLWizard/

I quote from his own webpages: "OPL Wizard is a freeware tool for OPL programming. It is aimed to help the OPL community develop to Epoc and Symbian OS. OPL Wizard comprises statistics tools, aiding tools to convert OPL code and reformatting tools"

http://www.robertocolistete.net/Yacas/

"YACAS (Yet Another Computer Algebra System) is an easy to use, general purpose Computer Algebra System, a program for symbolic manipulation of mathematical expressions."

I am sure that many of you already know Roberto for the apps he developed for a pretty famous "pocket" - oriented software house.

Thanks very much Roberto for your kind contribution as well as for your intense development activity.

In the meantime, the petition has been signed by 2308 endorsers so far and the number keeps on growing steadily.

See you soon for the next update;)

[cangiante]

Ciao All!

Once again, the petition is being spoken around the whole world in a number of languages.

PLS welcome Messrs Tohru HIGAKI and Maiko NISHINO
from ArsLab who have recently joined in the "Symbian netbook pro movement":

http://www.geocities.com/arslab/compu/software/software.html

ArsLab are authors of a number of applications for ER5 such as the following ones:

1) numerical analysis

PsiStatsPro and PsiStatsLe _


2) data handling

multiLin multi data search system, compatible with 'Lingo'

CsvConv CSV, text convertor for multiLin (i.e. for Epoc Data)

FileHand slight file handling utility

Thanks Tohru and Maiko for your kind contribution, which adds further value to the petition initiative.

(2333 endorsers at the time of writing, and the number keeps steadily growing)

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

After just another manic monday - and I did wish it was sunday indeed a few times today;) - I thought that a nice message to post would be announcing another link to the petition site.

Please welcome Caspar Lam from Omicron Technologies who added the Petition banner on his RevoLUTION-dedicated site:

http://omicrontech0.tripod.com/

Thanks Caspar for your kind commitment and support.

In the meantime, the number of endorsers surpassed quota 2350 and keeps on growing steadily

...thanks god, it's tuesday;)

[cangiante]

Hi all!

I am not actually at airlie beach, australia, unfortunately... even if I surely wish I was there;) .

BTW, you have to be content with what you already have so I personally welcome the mild temperature in the Milan area (20° C today) as well as another contribution to the petition initiative.

I am sure that most of you already know Eric Lindsay's site, full of precious and detailed information about the EPOC world:

http://www.ericlindsay.com/epoc/psion7.htm

so thanks very much Eric for your kindly joining in the "Symbian netbook pro Movement"; in the meantime the number of endorsers reached quota 2375...

(to be continued);)

[cangiante]

Ciao All!

the list of linked site is getting longer: PLS welcome the following one

http://www.psionwelt.de/besprech/nbpro-test_ts.pdf

Unfortunately my German skills are not enough to translate it in English. However I asked Mobilix to summarize briefly its content and here is his kindly reply:

The article is the first and largest review of the NB pro.

>>>The author is Thorsten Stegemann.

Warok http://warok.de/ is Psion Teklogix Dealer and offered 1 week free testing for our forum members at Psionwelt.

Thorstens conclusio showed large potential for enhancements and corrections from Psion Tek and Microsoft, and it is too expensive too.

And he mentioned that there was a petition from the beginning of NB pro.<<<

Thanks Thorsten and Mobilix for your kind efforts. In the meantime, the number of endorsers reached quota 2383;) .

happy easter to everyone!

[cangiante]

Ciao all,

While the atmosphere in Milan is particularly wet tonight, here is the latest link to the petition initiative:

http://netbookboot.dlmax.org/tiki-index.php

Let me thank both John Lefebvre and Max Westen for being respectively No. 2 in the signature order (think what!) and one of the very very first sites in starting with linking to the Symbian netbook pro petition.

Moreover, they are struggling for making the dream of develop ingand documenting the boot process of the Psion netBook and related models possible.

thank you again guys! while the community of malaybook/7book and - why not - netbook users is keeping its fingers crossed the petition endorsers reached quota 2395...;)

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

Just kidding of course. the good news is that there is another big name among the developers supporting the petition initiative. PLS join in welcoming Herr Wolfgang Golder from Germany:

http://www.golder.de

I am sure that many of you already know Wolfgang for his Psion Commander application (a sort of EPOC version of total commander). In the meantime, this may be a good chance for browsing on his interesting site and picking up some more cherries: just to make one example, Ksion is a very interesting alternative to the standard "contacts" application and I am pretty confident it will capture the attention of many power users - as well as the "mobile professionals" - here at psionplace.

that's all for now, just to say that Wolfgang may have some surprises in progress in the next few months, in terms of new software for ER5.

keep up the good work!
;)

[cangiante]

Ciao all!

Thanks to Tony Dennis at the Inquirer, here is another webpage linked to the Symbian Netbook Pro Petition:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14874

it is actually an article which dates back to the recent CEBITfair and which I had probably overlooked at that time.

thanks again to Tony both for mentioning this initiative and for telling it to us as well...

in the meantime, the number of endorsers reached quota 2496 and we should welcome "Mr. 2500" quite soon ;)

[MartinMaxwell]

The Symbian based Sendo X was finally released a few days ago. Excellent reviews so far! It would be nice to be able to say that it is selling just as well, but it is too early for that.

What has the Sendo X got to do with the netBook petition?

1. It shows that the Symbian game is not only for the Nokias, Ericssons, Sonys, Samsungs and Motorolas of this world. Small innovative companies can provide leading edge products if they know their niche markets well.

2. It gives a quite interesting clearly defined development time for a Symbian device. 15 months ago the Sendo development team was still developing on a Microsoft platform, and had not even thought about Symbian nor had developed one single line of Symbian code. 15 months later the device is out.

3. One does not necessarily need to be on the latest Symbian OS version to produce a killer device. The Sendo X still runs on v6.1, using the Series 60 UI, albeit some functionality has certainly been ported back from v7.

See Ewan's review here:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/review2.php?id=105.

Incidentally, a Psion aquisition of Sendo was suggested by quite a few shareholders in that consequential EGM some months ago as the fastest route back on track... There is still time before Sendo shares become too expensive...

cheers
Martin