Dead battery - Now I need a new Partnership?!?!

[bfults]

Why do I have to make a new profiel every time the battery goes dead on my Ipaq. I am Running 2002 adn have a 3765. Is there a way to keep a Partnership that I am already using after the battery goes dead?

Thanks for any help.

[Cooldude10810]

When you say that your batter goes dead do you mean that it goes compleatly dead and you lose all the info on your iPAQ? I'm not sure i completly understand your problem.

[bfults]

Ya, the battery goes totally dead (becouse I havent charged it in a few days) When I put it back on the charger it wakes up like it is factory fresh and never been used before. When I try to Sync. it, it says that I cant use the same partnership as before that I have to create a new one. Is it just me who is having this problem, I seem to remember seeing another post somewhere in here about this.

[synapse]

I guess the obvious answer is don't let it go dead...but if you must then maybe you could use ActiveSync to backup your entire iPAQ on your harddrive everytime you sync (you can actually set it so that it only backs up the changed info after the initial full backup), that way, your info will be up to date so when your battery dies all you have to do is use the restore feature in ActiveSync backup. You might want to make sure you have the latest version of ActiveSync (3.5 or 3.6).

[bfults]

Ya don’t let it die, Good Advise. Trying real hard on that one. I did the full back Full restore thing I don’t believe that worked either. It still wanted to make a new partnership.

[Stain]

Looking for the answer as well... The question: Is there a way to re-partnership the ipaq (after battery loss) to the existing PC?

[synapse]

theres a place in activesync where you can create a partnership. If you have to, uninstall activesync and reinstall it. Then try and create a partnership

[bfults]

We shouldn't have to uninstall anything! If I synced once with my IPAQ I should aslways be able to dead battery or not this is stupid. I dont see why I have to redo everything everytime I let the battery go dead. I am scared to let the battery go dead now and hardly ever take the unit off the chrging base for fear that i wont get it back on in time. SO now I hardly ever use the thing.:(

[synapse]

for that problem I would recommend getting a program that displays your remaining battery life on the today screen. I use a program called syswatch (free). look around for one either here or on http://www.download.com.

[GadgetFreak]

What kind of power settings do you have set? Under Settings/Power there is a box to check to turn the unit off after a certain time and a pull down menu to set the time. I use a 3835 almost constantly. I have used it on flights to Japan and such. I plug it in at the end of the day and I watch the battery but it has never run down completely. Maybe there is a setting problem or defect.

As to restores, you can try using the Settings/Backup Utility on the IPAQ to make a copy of the IPAQ to an SD card or any other memory device on your IPAQ (CF card, IBM microdrive, etc.) I have read this helps restores but I havent tried it yet. As I recall from when I did my last hard reset (ROM upgrade) synching new wasnt too much of a problem. It found most of my stuff and reinstalled with the new profile. Cant remember the details though and I must say this type of recovery is definately an area where I prefer Palm OS. Good luck

[JamesZ]

The responses so far, while I'm sure well intentioned, fail to answer the question. It is similar to taking your car to the shop to get a fender repaired after an accident, only for the shop to tell you not to crash your car.

My hx4705, with a 100% full Li-ion battery drained the nimh (backup) battery during the day one day. That afternoon, when I tried to turn it on, it would not. I used the reset at the bottom, and when it powered on, the flash was gone and I got the "you better charge your battery or you might lose data" message. Well, I already lost everything (no worries... the important data was all backed up) and had 100% on the main battery. I clicked on the battery icon and the main battery was quickly dropping (stopped at 90%) and the nimh was at 20% and climbing.

I am in the same boot now, and it has nothing to do with power settings or brightness settings. The backup battery should have never drained with a full main battery charge.

Everything has been restored, and a case has been opened with HP, however the problem of having to create a new profile exists. I believe the reason a new profile is forced is for security, but surely the security issue could be solved with something similar to a Bluetooth pairing PIN.

Is there a registry edit that can help restore the old profile, or some other method?

[AnswerDude]

If you made a backup through Activesync, set region settings and time zone on the iPAQ same as when you made the backup, activesync as guest then do a restore, everything will be back.

If you don't have a backup, When the iPAQ is not connected to the desktop, on desktop's Activesync, delete the old partnership, you will be able to establish old partnership next time you sync.

[lobelsteve]

If you don't have a backup, When the iPAQ is not connected to the desktop, on desktop's Activesync, delete the old partnership, you will be able to establish old partnership next time you sync.

This should be stickied or placed in a FAQ. I've needed this a few times in the last year.

[stevedebi]

The responses so far, while I'm sure well intentioned, fail to answer the question. It is similar to taking your car to the shop to get a fender repaired after an accident, only for the shop to tell you not to crash your car.

My hx4705, with a 100% full Li-ion battery drained the nimh (backup) battery during the day one day. That afternoon, when I tried to turn it on, it would not. I used the reset at the bottom, and when it powered on, the flash was gone and I got the "you better charge your battery or you might lose data" message. Well, I already lost everything (no worries... the important data was all backed up) and had 100% on the main battery. I clicked on the battery icon and the main battery was quickly dropping (stopped at 90%) and the nimh was at 20% and climbing.

I am in the same boot now, and it has nothing to do with power settings or brightness settings. The backup battery should have never drained with a full main battery charge.

Everything has been restored, and a case has been opened with HP, however the problem of having to create a new profile exists. I believe the reason a new profile is forced is for security, but surely the security issue could be solved with something similar to a Bluetooth pairing PIN.

Is there a registry edit that can help restore the old profile, or some other method?

It is not security. The profile information is stored in Activesync on the desktop. Active sync is designed to connect to only one profile for a certain device. If you allow your IPAQ to fully drain the battery, you erase the entire contents of memory, including all the activesync settings. Therefore when you connect to the PC again, activesync sees a new pocket PC, and sets up a new profile - and it will not let you use the same profile name as before, for the simple reason that the profile stores the "My Document" files in the same desktop PC directory, and the Windows file system requires unique names.

There are very good instructions just above this post that tell you how to delete profiles, but you cannot simply re-connect to the same profile; the IPAQ doesn't know that it was previously connected to your PC - because the memory was cleared.

There are two things you can do to help.

1. In your "My Documents" folder on the desktop PC, there is a folder named for your PPC connection. This folder will contain everything in your "My Documents" IPAQ folder. Once you have established a new activesync connection, simply copy everything from this folder to your new activcesync folder name. This will restore any files, favorites, etc, that were previously saved.

2. My 6315 had the capability to automatically back up the memory at a certain battery level (I used 20%). This will ensure that your memory is backed up before the device dies.

[mlevin]

ever find an answer to this? I have the same problem.

thanks