Different Launcher? Launcher X [Archive]

Rockbeast

08-05-2003, 08:06 AM

I had the distinct honor and pleasure of being on the Launcher X beta testing team and currently use a HandEra 330. I know Bozidar Benc, the developer of LauncherX, is into GPS (ordered a GPS card for his HE330 and has enjoyed using it), so he may already be watching the Garmin iQue 3600. Although LX hasn't been updated since v1.0.2 in November, it looks like Bozidar is starting the next revision (correct a few bugs...LX was way stable upon release, maybe add some features, we will see).

I will make sure he knows about the release of the iQue 3600 so he can consider including it as a supported device (I have mentioned it at www.launcherxplanet.com (http://www.launcherxplanet.com) and will bring it up again). Several of the beta testers have indicated interest in the Garmin...many of them are HE users. Once you have VG, you can't go back can you?

And I agree, LX is great and is the best launcher for me. It doesn't get updated every week like ZLauncher, but I think it took several months of updating ZL before it was 'equal' to LX. ZL is very big too. But, everyone has their likes and dislikes. Currently ZL allows background images and LX does not. Perhaps that may change with the next release...right now, with a greyscale screen, it's not really something I am interested in...today (don't end a sentence with a preposition?).

BTW, I really enjoy this forum, and one day I may be able to join you with my own Garmin...but it will have to wait...excess cash is not available at this time!:(

Moose Man

08-05-2003, 10:03 AM

Stymyx and Rockbeast - yes Launcher X is a great. And it too will be one of the first - probably the first program that I install outside of the "package".

Stymyx? when is your iQue scheduled to arrive? Mine is due Thursday so if I get it as scheduled, I'll let you know. I don't think there will be a problem.

Stymyx

08-05-2003, 10:58 AM

Moose,

If Darrel says he'll be able to fill pre-orders through 6/2/03 by the end of this week, then I'm hoping to get mine by the end of next week, since I ordered mine on 7/2/03. I'll let you know as well. I envy you for getting yours this week!

By the way, you can call me Jeff.

Moose Man

08-05-2003, 11:14 AM

Jeff,

I placed my order with Darrel on March 31st - so I should get the Wednesday or Thursday shipment. I ordered over the weekend from Safe Trac and they tell me I'll have it as well by Friday. I may end up with two units by weekend.

I'll definitely let you know about Launcher X, Agendus, Text +, Bejeweled, GTS Racing, Mobile DB, Highway Manager (from Tiny Stocks) and City Time. These are just about all of the "required" programs that are currently on the Z71 and Tungsten T.

Stymyx

08-05-2003, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Rockbeast
I had the distinct honor and pleasure of being on the Launcher X beta testing team and currently use a HandEra 330. I know Bozidar Benc, the developer of LauncherX, is into GPS (ordered a GPS card for his HE330 and has enjoyed using it), so he may already be watching the Garmin iQue 3600. Although LX hasn't been updated since v1.0.2 in November, it looks like Bozidar is starting the next revision (correct a few bugs...LX was way stable upon release, maybe add some features, we will see).

I will make sure he knows about the release of the iQue 3600 so he can consider including it as a supported device (I have mentioned it at www.launcherxplanet.com (http://www.launcherxplanet.com) and will bring it up again). Several of the beta testers have indicated interest in the Garmin...many of them are HE users. Once you have VG, you can't go back can you?

And I agree, LX is great and is the best launcher for me. It doesn't get updated every week like ZLauncher, but I think it took several months of updating ZL before it was 'equal' to LX. ZL is very big too. But, everyone has their likes and dislikes. Currently ZL allows background images and LX does not. Perhaps that may change with the next release...right now, with a greyscale screen, it's not really something I am interested in...today (don't end a sentence with a preposition?).

BTW, I really enjoy this forum, and one day I may be able to join you with my own Garmin...but it will have to wait...excess cash is not available at this time!:(

I do hope Bozidar will make LauncherX fully compatible with the iQue. I hope he finally finishes the "Homer" function, too!

Rockbeast

08-06-2003, 08:44 AM

Many are hoping that Homer will be implemented in a next release, and perhaps the use of background images, and an easier skinmaker/manager (currently this requires Codewarrior and some 'true grit' I've been told...I'm too wimpy and lack the skills to try!). We will see...

Right now I use McPhling to achieve 'Homer-like' functionality, and some use EasyLaunch.

Stymyx

08-06-2003, 08:46 AM

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that promised skin maker. I hope that will be finished soon, too!

reinbeau

08-06-2003, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Rockbeast
Right now I use McPhling to achieve 'Homer-like' functionality, and some use EasyLaunch.

So, LauncherX has the functionality of McPhling? I'm compiling a list of programs I'm going to carry over to the iQue, McPhling has been rewritten as a stand-alone program for OS5, but I guess I'll need something to help manage files on the SD card and I thought I read that LauncherX has those capabilities. I might go that route and not install the new McPhling.

Of course, you realize I'm thinking about what I'm going to do with my iQue because I Don't have one yet!! I'm dreaming! :p

Moose Man

08-06-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Stymyx
Oh, yeah. I forgot about that promised skin maker. I hope that will be finished soon, too!

It'll only be a year in September. Not to be too hard on Boz because I know that there were serious family issues last year and perhaps continuing - Launcher X has not given me one ounce of problems and most of the rest of his software is used with hacks. He knows how to write Palm OS software.

Rockbeast

08-06-2003, 10:42 AM

I think the skin manager was talked about last september/october as something to be added, but I didn't think it was promised as part of the original LX release, was it? During LX beta testing, Bozidar was developing an easier way to make/manage skins, but I think this was set aside in order to allow for LX to get to its first public release. So, I thought the skin maker/manager that we mere mortals could use to create skins was something that was coming about as part of the beta testing process, and not a promised original release feature (note, active skins ARE present as promised. It's just that creating new skins is a hassle. You can modify many aspects of the existing active skins right now...change color, tab icons, text size, no app text, order of tabs, which gadgets to display, hidden gadgets, etc.).

Forgive me if I'm wrong on that, but that is what's in my mind when I think about it...now I've got nothing left in my mind...

I know www.launcherx.com says it is 'coming soon' or something like that. I believe that was put up around November/December 2002.

As for McPhling, I must admit I only use the app switching aspect of it and am not familiar with all it's capabilities (I'm using v.4.11) so I don't know if Homer covers it all.

I'm anxious to here how LX behaves with the iQue! In fact, if any of you install it, I recommend you send a message to support@launcherx.com to let them know your experiences. And, if you have a moment, go to www.launcherxplanet.com and share there also.

Waiting to hear...

Ward

Stymyx

08-06-2003, 11:05 AM

You are correct, Rock. The Skin Manager was not promised to be a part of the original LauncherX. News of the skin manager was posted to the LauncherX web site some time AFTER the release.

I felt so sorry for Boz last year. He was so berated for releasing LauncherX when he did (that is to say, after a few months of delays). The people on the various PDA forums I visited (including ClieSource, where I used to hang out a lot) were absolutely vicious. Some people were actually attacking him on a personal level because LauncherX was taking so long to be released. I’d never seen such a display of immaturity in all my life. And when he finally DID release it, those same people complained because it didn’t have all the functions THEY wanted. Poor Boz was in a dammed if I do, dammed if I don’t situation. It would have made me want to give up programming all together, I think!

Having the Homer function and the skin manager would be nice, but at the same time, I wouldn’t be disappointed is LauncherX is NEVER updated either. I have NEVER had one single problem with it! The only thing I would ask is that it works on the iQue!

Moose Man

08-06-2003, 11:14 AM

Ward,

I believe your timetable is basically correct. It is interesting though that the Launcher X web page talks about

"In the meantime watch this space and prepare yourselves for some mind-blowing concepts in the near future!"

The active skins that are there are the "unofficial" skins and have been there since the public version which became available in Sept of 2002.

Launcher X is a great program - it's just that it seems that some of the future stuff has not been timely. The homer function was originally part of the pre-release hype and then is buried into the FAQ section and it's unclear when the next version of Launcher X is released - will it be a free upgrade.

I was a loyal user of Launch'em then switched to Launcher X because of the quality. I was upset that the release took over 9 months from the first advertisement. I would only make one suggestion - tabs on the bottom. I had posted this several months ago - nearly a year and the response was that there would probably be an active skin with "bottom" tabs.

All of the negative out of the way - the program is the most useful Launcher - for me even with the tabs on top or side. I've tried Silver Screen and MegaLauncher and just couldn't improve upon the interface.

I hope Little Mobile Creations will release any necessary updates quickly to service the iQue - but I suspect it will work without any needed - it's that well written of a program.

Rockbeast

08-06-2003, 11:33 AM

Don't forget to set your clock to geologic time...then 9 months is just a blink of an eye! Sorry, I'm a geologist and civil engineer, and I'm sworn by my profession to use geology and engineering jokes as much as possible...not that there's anything funny about geologists or engineers...

I like the idea of tabs on the bottom. If I were you, I would suggest it again (tech support has been vastly improved at Little Mobile Creations...that is support@launcherx.com...recently). You can also suggest it at the www.launcherxplanet.com forum, in the LauncherX portion of the forum (there are several forum areas there...many filled with my mindless drivel so watch out you don't get stuck in them!), I believe it is the first listed forum area. Also, while you are there, look for threads on the Luminx and Velo skins, recent additions I think that may not be listed at www.LauncherX.com (I'm sure the Velo skin isn't). They don't have bottom tabs, but several folk like them. The only skins for HandEra folk are the default HE330 that comes with LX, or Lubak's HE330 skins (which I have purchased and use with pride).

BTW, the first public release of LauncherX was in the third week of November (maybe the 19th?) 2002.

And Jeff is right, the 'cliesource attitude' was very severe. If it were me, I would have moved to the mountains to live at high altitude...wait, that's another post...and given up on further programming...

I think LX will probably work well with the Garmin as is...for the same reason as you stated, it is a well written program...not a bandaid...or a curad...:)

Moose Man

08-06-2003, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Rockbeast
The only skins for HandEra folk are the default HE330 that comes with LX, or Lubak's HE330 skins (which I have purchased and use with pride).

You HandEra Geeks - all the same - Engineers! Too bad, I guess HandEra's not going to come out with any new units if my epress memory is correct.

BTW - cool avatar!

Thanks for the links on the skins - if anyone finds one with tabs on the bottom let me know.

My unit will be in hand tomorrow so - I'll be able to determine any conflicts - quickly - but doubtful there will be any.

reinbeau

08-06-2003, 07:47 PM

BTW - cool avatar!This is off-topic, but I have to ask...where do you get the avatars? The FAQ mentions them, and suggests availability someday, but in the meantime, I'd like to get one myself! Any help would be appreciated.

Stymyx

08-06-2003, 07:57 PM

Ann, any graphic can be an avatar! The only thing is that it can't be any larger than 50x50 pixels in size, and it needs to be a JPEG file or a GIF file.

Moose Man

08-06-2003, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by reinbeau
This is off-topic, but I have to ask...where do you get the avatars? The FAQ mentions them, and suggests availability someday, but in the meantime, I'd like to get one myself! Any help would be appreciated.

It's a simple process to add once you've either created one or acquired - you can just click on the avatar link under the "user cp" then look under "edit options" tab. You can install one from your desktop by following the prompts.

The moving avatars are definitely "gif" files. I obviously "stole" mine from a Rocky and Bullwinkle site and then simply used Adobe Photoshop Elements to convert the jpg down to 50X50 pixels and there you have it.

Hope this little more info helps.

Moose Man

08-06-2003, 11:47 PM

reinbeau - well after viewing my Bullwinkle avatar for multiple years - I took a few minutes and cut down a recent picture I took up in Alaska of a Moose alongside of the walkway near Kincaid Park.

So - now this thread is really off topic but since I started the thread.....:)

Rockbeast

08-07-2003, 01:36 AM

I believe the topic was Launcher X...and if you folks are interested, check out this LauncherXPlanet forum thread (http://www.launcherxplanet.com/forums//index.php?act=ST&f=17&t=247&st=30&#entry6494) regarding Bozidar Benc's response when asked about LX and the Garmin.

He's planning on getting one...this is good...:cool:

Oh yeah, and thanks for the compliments on the avatar...I actually prefer rock climbing, but if I'm stuck in the city with nothing but skyscrapers...OK, I'm dreaming!:)

Garv

08-07-2003, 08:08 AM

I'm using SilverScreen as a launcher. They have support for the Sony Clie at 320x480, but it does not support this resolution on the iQue. (i.e. can't minimize the VG area)

Rockbeast

08-07-2003, 03:45 PM

Hey Mooseman? Since I haven't seen a post from you for a little while, and since you were expecting the delivery today, and since it is now about 1:40pm out in California...may we assume you are busy opening up your Garmin? I am anxious to here if LX works as is. If you have the time, feel free to post at www.launcherxplanet.com, the folks there would be interested for sure.

I will mention your request for bottom tabs. This makes some sense because apps-tabs-gadgets are the 3 most commonly selected items, so why not have the tabs close to the gadgets? Oh yeah, sometimes I have seen gadgets up top, near the top tabs. I think a couple of the permutations of my Lubak HE330 skin has that. But they compete with the time/date for room so there are not as many slots. I have 10 slots for gadgets below.

Moose Man

08-07-2003, 10:27 PM

Busy actually working today so I had to go into S.F. today to earn enough money to pay for the iQue. It has been installed and I will post more details later.

Launcher X is flawless so far. The graffiti area is always available but other than that - I'm busy with installing the balance of software etc.

I'll get more later or possibly tomorrow. My boss has me working on a special project that will take a couple of hours and has to be completed tonight.

I have taken pictures of the packaging etc and will post more ASAP.

Rockbeast

08-08-2003, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by Moose Man
Launcher X is flawless so far. The graffiti area is always available but other than that - I'm busy with installing the balance of software etc.

I'll get more later or possibly tomorrow. My boss has me working on a special project that will take a couple of hours and has to be completed tonight.

I have taken pictures of the packaging etc and will post more ASAP.

I thought I would post so you wouldn't feel too pushy posting over your own message! It's the least I can do...

Sounds encouraging for LX so far. And regarding the pictures of packaging and unpacking...remember this is a family forum, no striptease!:D

Moose Man

08-08-2003, 02:24 PM

I have tried several skins and can't get any of them to work in 320 X 480 format. Not a big deal as long as there are no conflicts.

I've posted in another thread - My Observations regarding other stuff.

Thanks Rockbeast - I'll try and get the pics "up" and keep it clean. I'm having to work again today so the pics will take some time.

Rockbeast

08-11-2003, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Moose Man
I have tried several skins and can't get any of them to work in 320 X 480 format. Not a big deal as long as there are no conflicts.

I've posted in another thread - My Observations regarding other stuff.

Mooseman,

Were any of the skins you tried specifically written for 320x480? I know Lubak has written some (at least one).

Some of Lubak's Skins (http://www.pilot.sk/lubak/lx/)

Also, any other info regarding your use of LX here would be helpful. The developer is going to start working on an update to LX very soon and has the Garmin SDK and so it would certainly help to have first hand experience. I will make sure he knows about this thread so he can benefit from your comments.

Oh yeah...are you having fun yet with your iQue?;)

Hairy Potter

08-11-2003, 10:23 AM

I have installed Megalauncher on the iQue and it appears to work well. It does not take advantage of the virtual grafitti area, but there have been no problems using it so far.

Rockbeast

08-11-2003, 02:40 PM

It seems this new Palm OS with Virtual Graffiti is a little different animal!

Bozidar Benc, the developer of LauncherX has just ordered his own Garmin iQue 3600. He said:

...you may inform anyone who asks that LX will definitely be 100% compatible with iQue (once I get it).
So I wouldn't worry if you have any VG issues with LX.

Stymyx

08-11-2003, 03:47 PM

Right on, Boz!! I knew I could count on him!

Moose Man

08-11-2003, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Rockbeast

Mooseman,

Were any of the skins you tried specifically written for 320x480? I know Lubak has written some (at least one).

Some of Lubak's Skins (http://www.pilot.sk/lubak/lx/)

Also, any other info regarding your use of LX here would be helpful. The developer is going to start working on an update to LX very soon and has the Garmin SDK and so it would certainly help to have first hand experience. I will make sure he knows about this thread so he can benefit from your comments.

Oh yeah...are you having fun yet with your iQue?;)

I tried all of Lubak's 320 X 480 that were written for a Sony with the same "area". Actually, as I recall Lubak has several for NX 70's 60's and they did not work. Didn't try JC2K's because it stated they were for Sony OS 4 versions only. None appeared to work but again - no big deal and if Boz's is going to be monitoring - great. It's a wonderful program - but one request add bottom tabs.

Currently installed is Lubak's L-1 Top as I deleted all of the other "bundles". The default Launcher X skin is fine although it appears a bit fuzzy relative to Lubak's one - specifically resolution. My Zire - which is no longer sync'd - is clearer on the default icon's launcher.

Rock - yes I'm having fun. I did find a little glitch last night. I loaded some more maps but they did not come into the card. I formatted the card - cleared the Maps - loading query and then started a new - loaded all this time. I guess maybe it didn't really want to overwrite the existing maps. And it may have just been the late hour while I was doing it.

See my post about the Arkon unit and you'll see how much fun ;)

Rockbeast

08-12-2003, 07:52 AM

Mr. Benc's iQue is on backorder...so he has a little waiting. The company he ordered from was getting new units in on Wednesday (tomorrow) but I don't know if they will be enough to cover the backlog. If I hear any updates, I'll share as I can.

Mooseman, I'm not sure if these will help, but there a couple of other skins (I think) that have been developed which you can find discussed at www.launcherxplanet.com if you look in the LauncherX area of the forum. I believe there are links to these skins. One is called the Vort skin and the other is the LuminX skin...or something like that. I don't recall if they are for 320x480 or not.

But, as you say, since Mr. Benc is going to make it work, it's no big deal. There are discussions on LXPlanet about features folks would like to see in any updates to LX. I mentioned the bottom tabs. Perhaps this can be done. I wondered about the gadgets, but I do have some versions of my Lubak skins that have gadgets at the top, so I guess anything is possible?

Stymyx

08-12-2003, 09:56 AM

Backordered huh? What a surprise! :p

I get mine tomorrow!!! :D

Rockbeast

08-13-2003, 09:12 AM

We expect a report Stymyx once you get Launcher X loaded.

Also, if anyone else out there using LX tries the Vort or Luminex skins you can find through www.launcherxplanet.com, let us know how they perform.

Oops! It's Vort who made the Luminex skin. The other skin is Velo. Sorry!

I think Vort's skin can be found at

Vort's Luminex Skin (http://vortiff.tripod.com/)

It states it will handle Sony 320x480 but only Palm 320x320. I will suggest he look into the Palm 320x480 support. Am I right in assuming/remembering that the iQue uses the new Palm 320x480?

Velo's skin appears to be 320x320 only and can be found at:

Velo's LX skin (http://www23.brinkster.com/veloo/)

Moose Man

08-13-2003, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Rockbeast
We expect a report Stymyx once you get Launcher X loaded.

Also, if anyone else out there using LX tries the Vort or Luminex skins you can find through www.launcherxplanet.com, let us know how they perform.

Oops! It's Vort who made the Luminex skin. The other skin is Velo. Sorry!

I think Vort's skin can be found at

Vort's Luminex Skin (http://vortiff.tripod.com/)

It states it will handle Sony 320x480 but only Palm 320x320. I will suggest he look into the Palm 320x480 support. Am I right in assuming/remembering that the iQue uses the new Palm 320x480?

Velo's skin appears to be 320x320 only and can be found at:

Velo's LX skin (http://www23.brinkster.com/veloo/)

Tried several variations of Vort's - still no VG with Launcher X. I'm thinking that the more skins I've tried for various devices - the Sony OS 4 versions cause conflicts - gee go figure and of course won't load. No other issues - when is Boz expecting his unit now?

easyrider

08-13-2003, 06:46 PM

Maybe this is a dumb question but.....

Can someone start at the beginning and explain what LauncherX is, why you want it, what it does that the stock stuff doesn't do, etc. etc.

Is it just away of having a new skin which is just a makeover, or does it incorporate extra functionality, if so what.

I am new to the Palm world, but am going to enter soon when I order my ique3600.

Thanks for the patience,

Dale

Rockbeast

08-13-2003, 06:58 PM

Hey Easyrider...can I order a piece of toast? Now don't go "Jack Nicholson" on me!

This could take a while...or not. If anyone wants to tackle this in greater detail, please do. I've got to bring my daughter in for her bath (school tomorrow!) in about 5 minutes.

Launchers are programs that provide a more useable interface than the stock 'launcher' that comes with most palms. I think Sony has a better standard interface out of the box, but launcher programs like ZLauncher, LauncherX, Megalauncher, Silverscreen, Yishow, etc., usually do a bit more.

There is usually the feature of organizing your applications into 'tabbed' folders. This makes for a quicker access to the app you want, with the tabs of the folder showing it is only one tap to get to where the app is and one tap to start the app.

There is usually an assortment of 'gadgets' to speed up the doing of many tasks like deleting (usually a drag and drop of an app into a trash can or some visually appropriate icon), beaming, file info, card access, backlight, poweroff, etc.

They often allow the use of differing layouts, colors, background images (LauncherX currently doesn't have background image support, but I'm betting it isn't too far off).

There is more I think, but that bath water is getting cold! Anybody else feel free to continue or correct me.

Splish! Splash! I was takin' a bath!

:D

easyrider

08-13-2003, 07:01 PM

Do the Launchers impact the performance of the PDA?

Thanks for the quick explanation. If someone wants to go into more detail that would be great, but this is helping a lot.

Thanks,

reinbeau

08-13-2003, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by easyrider
Do the Launchers impact the performance of the PDA?

Thanks for the quick explanation. If someone wants to go into more detail that would be great, but this is helping a lot.

Thanks, I put Launcher X on my lllxe just recently, and noticed no performance hit at all, but the enhancements made me register it within 15 minutes. I've had a Palm now since 1996, and I have no idea why I hadn't tried launchers before.

I can't wait to get it on my iQue (why I didn't cancel my preorder and get one from soemwhere else I don't know, I'm supposed to have it Friday, but got no phone call today saying it was even at J&H, so probably not til next week, grrr. I digress! :( )

Anyhoo, I got it for the card filing features, I've never had extended memory cards, and thought I might need the tools. Give Launcher X a try, I think you'll like it.

Moose Man

08-13-2003, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by easyrider
Do the Launchers impact the performance of the PDA?

Thanks for the quick explanation. If someone wants to go into more detail that would be great, but this is helping a lot.

Thanks,

Rockbeast did a great job and hopefully this will enhance his answer:

Card Tools - the stock Palm Applications doesn't let you see what's on the SD card other than applications. You can't manipulate view them without a secondary launcher easily. In the case of MP3's - it just says that your taking up MB's without giving you specifics. You can only delete files on the SD card by using the native application such as Audio in the case of MP3's. With a secondary launcher you can see it - ala Windows Explorer.

Gadgets: as rock explained these are shortcuts - in Launcher X's case, trash can, info, beam, card tools, brightness, preferences, turn off and lock are just a few that are one touch away where by with the installed launcher - you have'd to scroll through several screens to get to these.

Tabs: Palm launcher uses categories which you can edit however to see just those apps in a specific category you have to hit menu then choose category and then wait for the screen refresh to see just those apps. The process of putting the apps in a specific category is often 3 or 4 steps. On Launcher X and others - simple drag and lose to move it to a new tab. Want to see games - touch the tab for games .

Also, secondary launchers will typically tell you more about a file that is on your Palm then the base launcher. Sometimes when using shareware - all of the trash doesn't get removed and you've got clutter taking up resources. Launcher X gives you more detailed information about this clutter to help you identify as such. It's like turn on the "details" inside Windows Explorer.

This should give you a better picture. By no means is another Launcher necessary to run a Palm device let along this Garmin Que but it does make multiple tasks easier.

To all the Palm and Mac officanados - my apologies to the Windows references. ;)

easyrider

08-13-2003, 08:10 PM

How much will LauncherX cost when it is ready for the ique3600?

I am definitely interested in getting this when I get my ique.

thanks for the explanations,

Dale

Moose Man

08-13-2003, 08:21 PM

Easy - it might help if we told you where you can view the darn thing, Launcher X (http://www.launcherx.com/index.cfm). You can also search at Palm Gear (http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.newupdated&typeID=2&sid=849E5AD8-CCBE-4916-90E3E4226596E88F) for other launcher's just to get a feel.

Current cost is $19.95 I believe. I doubt that it would be more and typically major updates might cause a price increase but this is left up to the author/developer. ;)

Rockbeast

08-13-2003, 09:04 PM

Some launchers take up quite a bit of space, I think LX is smaller in size but big in features...you know, the most bang for your buck. Some of the other launchers get big because people load each tab up with a background image (not yet available in LX) and add other things that aren't necessary. But, what ever floats your boat!

I think you can do a trial version for most any of the launchers. I have heard the most 'good' reports from LX and ZLauncher. I was very blessed to be on the beta test team for LX and it was very rewarding, and I think the product that came out of it was superb. Zlauncher has become superb too, and some LXers have started using it. I suspect that when a new version of LX comes out, they will be trying it too!

ZLauncher is updated frequently and may have surpassed LX in some respects, but it took several months of updates to do that while LX did not have an update. Some people like frequent updates, others like an app that can remain unchanged for a while and still be a great app. There are choices out there. I for one really like LX. You might too! I think Launchers are one of the best apps to have on a PDA.

Rockbeast

08-20-2003, 07:54 AM

Bozidar Benc has notification that his iQue should reach him in about 1 to 2 weeks. This is good news for iQue owning/ordering LauncherX fans out there!

smgord

08-20-2003, 09:03 AM

Hey, Moose Man, what did you mean by "loading query" when you were describing uninstalling and reinstalling the maps before?

Thanks

Moose Man

08-22-2003, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by smgord
Hey, Moose Man, what did you mean by "loading query" when you were describing uninstalling and reinstalling the maps before?

Thanks

Well - bad terminology- at 11:24PM, "loading query" was the term I used at that late hour for the process that you go through to "pick maps" from the City Select software. After choosing the maps you wish to install the program "builds index" files on the PC. This can take a few minutes. Then plus the process of loading them into the Que.....

Sorry if there was confusion created. :)

Rockbeast

08-25-2003, 11:18 AM

Bozidar Benc knows his iQue is in Croatia...now it is a customs waiting game. He hopes to have it by Wednesday or Thursday.

Rockbeast

08-26-2003, 03:14 PM

Bummer,

Bozidar just found out his iQue must have an 'allowance' from a governmental agency before it can be released to him. It will be at least 10 more days. I guess there is nothing to do but wait...

...waiting is boring...but I hear it builds character! If that's true, Mr. Benc is going to have loads of character by the time he gets his iQue!;)

Moose Man

08-26-2003, 03:40 PM

Thanks for the update.

sigpro

09-04-2003, 12:50 PM

Hi Rockbeast, any new update on this? Thanks

Rockbeast

09-04-2003, 03:36 PM

Mr. Benc still hasn't received his iQue. I think it has been about 7 or 8 days, and the government told him it would take at least 10. Waiting is not pleasant!

P.S...too bad you will miss Sara Evans? I believe she is performing on Saturday at the Marsee Auditorium.

sigpro

09-04-2003, 03:37 PM

Thanks for the response....waiting is a drag! :rolleyes:

sigpro

09-14-2003, 01:48 AM

Rockbeast, Moose Man...Question for you guys. Do you know...if I buy Laucher X now, will I have to buy it again; when the update to the Q comes?

And speaking of wich...Rockbeast do you know what the status is on this?

Thanks guys!

PDAFreak

09-14-2003, 10:33 AM

LauncherX works on the Gramin, but it won't go full screen. The default launcher does, and will display 34 small icons on the screen. None of the 3rd party launchers will go 320x480 on the iQue yet. All of the developers will have to modify their apps to use the iQue hardware, and that will take time.

Curious Cat

09-15-2003, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by sigpro
Rockbeast, Moose Man...Question for you guys. Do you know...if I buy Laucher X now, will I have to buy it again; when the update to the Q comes?

And speaking of wich...Rockbeast do you know what the status is on this?

Thanks guys!

Here's a copy of my email and reply from Launcer X just prior to me registering the product:

Subject: RE: I'm ready to register but...
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:52:00 +0200

Yes, the upgrade to the next version will be free.

Best regards

Bozidar Benc
Little Mobile Creations
http://www.launcherx.com
Benc Software Production
http://www.benc.hr

----- Original Message -----
From: Curious Cat
To: support@launcherx.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:53 PM
Subject: I'm ready to register but...

I have the new IQue 3600 from Garmin. Your product works great on it. I've heard from other members on the PDA Forum that you will be coming out soon with a version that will work full screen on this unit. Will I get a free upgrade to that version if I register or should I wait.

Thanks

sigpro

09-15-2003, 10:02 AM

Thanks Curious Cat! Now, let's just hope he can get his Q soon.

sigpro

09-19-2003, 03:52 PM

Rockbeast, any new update on this? Thanks

ZiLT

09-20-2003, 09:05 AM

Took me little wile before I starting messing with a different launcher for the ique, But after trying LX, I like it.

http://members.litenet.net/zzz

CougerofEQ

09-20-2003, 10:48 AM

LX on sale:

reg $24.95
NOW $18.95
Limited Time Special!

Just FYI from the link above

mrkablooey

09-26-2003, 08:00 PM

LauncherX now updated for iQue (http://www.launcherXplanet.com/forums//index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=634&)

Moose Man

09-26-2003, 09:03 PM

The program works and it appears to be very stable - what else. I'm in heaven - or at least Modesto.

Harv

09-26-2003, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by mrkablooey
LauncherX now updated for iQue (http://www.launcherXplanet.com/forums//index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=634&)

And it's AWESOME!!!

Everything works the same as the Palm launcher, with all the extra goodies in LX.

Life is good. :)

Harv

Curious Cat

09-26-2003, 09:38 PM

I've got a complaint...This new Launcher X is supposed to be a beta version and I can't find a single problem with it!

Then again, if I took a survey, I’m sure there would be about 10% of the people who still aren’t completely happy.
;)

Just_starting

09-26-2003, 10:03 PM

The new launcher X works perfect I had no glitchs at all!!!

Has anyone tried using a diffferent skin!

Moose Man

09-26-2003, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by Just_starting
The new launcher X works perfect I had no glitchs at all!!!

Has anyone tried using a diffferent skin!

I've got the Lubak L1 for Sony NX series running - perfectly.

KENSEXXON

09-26-2003, 11:18 PM

Why does Launcher X show two Address, Applications, Card Info, Date Book, etc. icons?

Rockbeast

09-27-2003, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Curious Cat
I've got a complaint...This new Launcher X is supposed to be a beta version and I can't find a single problem with it!

Then again, if I took a survey, I’m sure there would be about 10% of the people who still aren’t completely happy.
;) Man, you try to go out on a date with your wife and you think "I can step away for a few hours, nothing big will happen, right?"

Glad you folks have a new app to enjoy! But hey, I had a hot date with a beautiful woman, so there!:cool:

I'm not surprised LX is rock solid...I like to call Bozidar's products the "Rock of Gibralter" of Palm apps!

rururu

09-27-2003, 08:40 AM

Zlauncher is updated to support full screen too.

Rockbeast

09-27-2003, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by KENSEXXON
Why does Launcher X show two Address, Applications, Card Info, Date Book, etc. icons? Please go to www.launcherx.com and submit your issue to the support page. They are very responsive there and would love to help figure this out.

Peace!

Ward

CougerofEQ

09-28-2003, 12:22 AM

.
I have the beta demos for dbk5 and LX - they work great so far. Question I have... should I buy them now or wait for the final release? Any reason to wait?

Thanks

mrkablooey

09-28-2003, 06:49 AM

FWIW they are free upgrades so may as well get rid of the annoying reminder screens now. ;)

Just_starting

09-28-2003, 10:06 AM

I installed the beta of launcher X to get full screen and everything worked great...it is rock solid no bugs no glitches, everything was perfect.....

The one thing I will note is when you hit the (folder with the i on it) I think it is info, this does not work full screen, the app works but it is only 3 quaters of the screen...I never use this option, I happen to hit it by mistake and noticed it.....

I then thought I should at least try another launcher out.
so I gave Zlauncher a try......
1) If you want custmization this is the launcher for you
2) The file manager is much better than launcher X
3) I like the way it displays the memory card usage at the top

and there are some other bells and whistles in ZLauncher, that are not in X....but here is the problem Z it is not 100% stable. I find at times when I flip through screens my home function locks up and then I have to open any application and then the home function works again...its not a big deal and the system never crashed, but I feel this app is just barely holding on from crashing all the time.

There is also alot of stuff in Z that I would never ever use like picture background...but like I said before if you want options go with Z...if you want a product that is constantily adding new options to make itself better go with Z. But I think this comes at a price and the price is stability!

I also noticed that z has updates all the time, where launcher X has only had a few....I dont want to be having to get updates all the time.(it is bad enough in win XP that there is a critical update everyday).

If I was stricly using the Ique for recreation, I would go with Z, but I use mine for work, and I want rock solid stability so I am going with Launcher X......if my ique goes down I loose money and patience.....