series 5 emulator

[makoman50]

does anyone have a series 5 emulator for dos or revo?
if you do it would be much appreciated
thanks
makoman

[MikeMcC]

There is the XTM DOS emulator which runs on the Series 5. I had a brief play about with it but it was time limited before registering and I deleted all of the files after it expired - not that I had any DOS programs to run on it. Have a search of the newsgroups on Google and you should find some details - I don't even have a note of where I got it from.

You cannot emulate a Revo on a Series 5, if that's what you are wanting to do, possibly to get the later ER5 operating system?

P.S. Have a look at http://review.vdzijden.net/ for details of the XTM DOS emulator.

[makoman50]

mike;
sorry if i made my first post a little confusing but what im looking for is a series5 emulator that will run on ms dos or on revo. i have the xtm software and use it fiarly regularly with dos navigation software with no problems. im thinking that one could run an s5 emulator through xtm.
cheers
makoman

[MikeMcC]

There is the "ER5" emulator and I understand the only source of this is now on the "netPad" site at:

http://partners.psionteklogix.com/netpad-pdk/downloads.htm

where it is necessary to register as a developer (free) in order to download one of the SDKs, each of which includes a copy of the emulator. It isn't available separately and, I believe, the Java SDK was the smallest to download. I'm really not sure whether or not it runs in DOS. I installed it in Windows but when launched it does leave a DOS box sitting behind it on the screen. Perhaps someone else knows if it can actually be run from a DOS prompt.

There isn't an S5 emulator to run on a Revo. Why would you want to do this?

[makoman50]

mike-
i tried clicking on the link but although i registered i chased my virtual tail around the internet with no avail. i also tried running "epoc 32 emulator" through google with the same result.
if you've found it could you plesase attach it.
thanks
makoman
ps i want to see if the s5 emulator will run under xtm and them one would have s5 on revo. i also have some s5 software that i need to look at on my pc

[MikeMcC]

if you've found it could you plesase attach it. I have a copy of the Java SDK, of which the "Emulator" is an integral part, and the file is 16.1MB, so attaching is not an option. I had to ask someone with a broadband connection who kindly agreed to download it for me and send me it on a CD-R.

I think I can very safely say there isn't a hope in h*** of running the ER5 emulator under the XTM DOS emulator in a Revo. Additionally, as far as using it on a PC is concerned, third party applications in general cannot be run on the emulator unless the author has provided a "Wins" version of the necessary .OPX files.

[makoman50]

peronally i thought that an emulator was a program that ran on a different platform and yet ran software from another system. if the s5 emulator in the sdk doesn't do that then i'm confused.
hope you can help
makoman

[MikeMcC]

The program emulates an ER5 Psion on the PC and the built-in applications run the same way as they would on the actual Revo, 5mx, S7 or whatever. It looks just like a Psion's screen on the PC, including the silkscreen buttons.

However, it is not a "Psion" on your PC, it is a software development tool and if you want to run software that is not part of the built-in apps, this can only be done if the software author has written the appropriate .OPX files for the emulator. I am not a programmer and I don't really know what an .OPX file does, but different versions are required for the two platforms.

[Beakynet]

OK, I am a programmer and use the Emulator for development. The issue is that C++ is not platform independent as it is compiled code. What this means is that you need to re-compile an application once is it running under the emulator so that it can run on the Psion's processor. Since OPXs are written in C++ (they are extensions to the built in OPL programming Language) you need a version compiled to run under the 8086 processor type (Intel or AMD but not ARM). OPL programs that don't have a need for language extensions will run as is and install directly from their sis files. I have copies of Wins versions of some OPX's and think I got them from RMRsoft, can't remember now.

Programs written in Java and OPL will run directly (providing you have the Java SDK installed) with out any changes.

As to running the emulator on the Revo, it is not possible as Xtm emulates a 286 processor family, this means that support for windows beyond version 3.0 are just not supported! However, you might be able to run the old series 3 emulator as this was written for Dos.

The Psion Emulator is very good, it just suffers from the limitations of C and C++.

Hope this helps to clarify things.

;)

[MikeMcC]

Hope this helps to clarify things Yes, thanks for that.