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Stymyx
08-14-2003, 11:32 AM
For what it’s worth, here a review of my first-day experience with my new iQue.

Before I begin, I wanted to say thanks to all of the people who listed their experiences here. Because of this, I was able to avoid problems.

First, the color of the case. Is it silver? Is it gold? Is it “pewter”? Is it dull bronze? I would call it “medium gunmetal grey”. :p

The cradle. Yes, the connection on the cradle DOES seem very fragile. When I tilt the iQue forward to fully upright to remove it, it makes a very unpleasant “snap” sound. So far, this is my only complaint about the overall product. It will definitely be worth it for users to be VERY careful when removing their iQues from their cradles. It CAN’T be done in a hurry. Take it SLOW!!

The leather flip cover: It’s nice, but it’s a little strange getting used to the flap being hinged on the BOTTOM rather than the top! I keep the iQue in an E&B CoPilot-20 pouch-type carrying case when I’m not using it or when transporting it.

The software installation: Not ONE single hitch. It was flawless, although I would advise following the instructions carefully when installing!

Installing maps: Again, flawless. I followed the advice of those here and forced myself to be patient. After it indexed the maps and started “syncing” to the iQue, it DID appear that it was locked up (the hotsync icon on the computer screen wasn’t moving), but after about 3 minutes it started moving. Once it did, it took about 2 more minutes to upload all the maps I told it to (the entire state of Georgia) to the SanDisk 256Mb SD card.

The standard Palm apps: No surprises there. They all work as they always have on all the other PalmOS PDAs I’ve owned in the past. There is definitely something to be said for “the elegance of simplicity!” Take THAT, PowerPC!!

My other programs: So far, all of my other programs work fine on the iQue, including AcidSolitaire, Megabowling, Bejewelled, FilZ, PDA Safe, MegaClock and PowerRun. Since I already owned PalmOS 5-compatible versions of these programs (when I was using a Sony Clie NX70V, which also used PalmOS 5), these programs run fine on the iQue. The only problem is that the virtual graffiti (VG) area doesn’t collapse on any of them. I suspected that would be the case, so I wasn’t surprised. My one disappointment is DateBk5. As previously reported here, it runs fine on the iQue, as long as you don’t bring up any menus! Doing so causes the VG area to disappear, leaving you with no way to input data and causing you to have to perform a soft reset. DateBk5 is my most important “serious” app, and I hope the developers have a fix for this soon. Other than that, no problems software-wise. I've had ZERO lockups so far.

Ok, now on to the fun stuff. The GPS: In a word: Joy. Pure, unadulterated joy. I had the perfect real-world test. A friend flew into Atlanta and was staying in a hotel in a part of downtown Atlanta I’ve never been to before. She said she was staying at the Embassy Suites Hotel in Buckhead. I got in my car at work, brought up QueFind, tapped on “Lodging” and searched for the hotel. It came up in the list instantly. I then tapped on “Route to” and I was off and running. It took about 3 minutes for the GPS to lock on, just as the manual said it would take for the first-time GPS aquisition. I put the iQue in my cellphone holder on my dashboard (which I will continue to use until Garmin releases the AutoNav kit) and started following “Bitchin’ Betty’s” instructions (that what I call the iQue’s voice! Anyone who was in the Air Force should understand the reference!) The directions were perfect and easy to follow and I never once lost the GPS signal (a benefit from having it on the dashboard, I’m sure). 20 minutes later I arrived at my destination. It was absolutely flawless! I used it again this morning to route myself from home to work. I purposely “missed” announced turns to see how long it took to recalculate the route. It was VERY quick in doing so. The “speed” readout was about 3 MPH behind my car’s speedometer, certainly acceptable. I was most surprised with how accurate the estimated time of arrival was. It was dead-on correct, occasionally recalculating when I was in stop-&-go traffic. I also used the MP3 player at the same time and I love how the sound of the music lowered when Betty was speaking a direction. I did discover that the sound of the speaker wasn’t quite loud enough for my taste, but I solved that problem by using a cassette tape adapter and playing the iQue through my car’s stereo (again, that problem will be solved with the arrival of the AutoNav kit). Long story short, the entire GPS experience was fabulous beyond my wildest dreams.

Overall, I think this iQue is truly the greatest thing since sliced bread. It really does everything it claims to do and I couldn’t be happier with it. It was definitely worth the wait!!

Thanks once again to all those before me who have posted their experiences with their iQues. I truly benefited from your postings!

Cheers,
Jeff

Stymyx
08-14-2003, 11:44 AM
I forgot one thing in my review. The battery. Yes, the battery IS faily short-lived, especially when using the GPS. But I don't see that as a problem, since I'll only be using the GPS when in my car, and the AutoNav kit will provide the power. Otherwise, lowering the screen brightness to 50% or less DOES increase the battery life significantly when using the iQue as a PDA.

demiller9
08-14-2003, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Stymyx
The “speed” readout was about 3 MPH behind my car’s speedometer, certainly acceptable.Only in extremely rare cases would you see the GPS display a bad speed. (Essentially, if it has a 3D lock, the speed is within .05m/s=.1 mph). If it varies from your speedometer, trust the GPS.
I was most surprised with how accurate the estimated time of arrival was. It was dead-on correct, occasionally recalculating when I was in stop-&-go traffic. Actually, it 'recalculates' the arrival time constantly. The algorithm is to use the estimated speed for the roads you are routed on and the remaining distance to your destination. If traffic is slow, or you stop at a light, your distance won't be reducing as quickly as predicted and the ETA will extend.

Don

reinbeau
08-14-2003, 11:57 AM
The standard Palm apps: No surprises there. They all work as they always have on all the other PalmOS PDAs I’ve owned in the past. There is definitely something to be said for “the elegance of simplicity!” Take THAT, PowerPC!! That's something I've wanted to ask. Somewhere I read that the Memo Pad app isn't included on the iQue? Is that true? If it isn't, what do I do with all those memos ??:confused: I refer back to several of them often.

My one disappointment is DateBk5. As previously reported here, it runs fine on the iQue, as long as you don’t bring up any menus! Doing so causes the VG area to disappear, leaving you with no way to input data and causing you to have to perform a soft reset. DateBk5 is my most important “serious” app, and I hope the developers have a fix for this soon. Other than that, no problems software-wise. I've had ZERO lockups so far.

You should report this to CESD, the author of DateBk5. He has indicated to me he intends to fix the program to run properly on the iQue. His mailing address for these types of problems is swsupport@pimlicosoftware.com .

Oh, and did I mention my iQue HAS FINALLY SHIPPED OVERNIGHT TODAY TO ME!!! Whoo Hoo! :D :D :D

PDA Paul
08-14-2003, 11:59 AM
Jeff, could you report if you have had any lockups of the unit? I have heard on this site that several users are having lockup problems. If the answer is no, could you also mention how many days you have been using the GPS.

Thanks in advance.

Paul

Garv
08-14-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Stymyx
My one disappointment is DateBk5. As previously reported here, it runs fine on the iQue, as long as you don’t bring up any menus! Doing so causes the VG area to disappear, leaving you with no way to input data and causing you to have to perform a soft reset.

Just a quick note on this. The VG area still accepts input although you can not see it. To avoid the soft reset, just tap the lower left corner to exit the app and all should be fine.

Stymyx
08-14-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by reinbeau
That's something I've wanted to ask. Somewhere I read that the Memo Pad app isn't included on the iQue? Is that true? If it isn't, what do I do with all those memos ??:confused: I refer back to several of them often.
That is correct, Ann. The iQue does NOT come with the “Note Pad” app. I’m not sure why, perhaps Palm wants to keep it for their own Palm-brand PDAs. My Sony Clie NX70V didn’t come with Note Pad either. There is, however, a good substitute. It’s called BugMe. You can find it here (http://www.electricpocket.com/bugme-palm/).

Oh, and congrats on your pending arrival!!

demiller9
08-14-2003, 12:11 PM
I have a memo pad in my iQue: the about screen shows "Garmin Memo Pad v4.5G"

Maybe you need to check the install disk to see if it was deleted/omitted from your backup/hotsync.

Don

Stymyx
08-14-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Garv


Just a quick note on this. The VG area still accepts input although you can not see it. To avoid the soft reset, just tap the lower left corner to exit the app and all should be fine.
Cool, you're right. Thanks, Garv!

Stymyx
08-14-2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by demiller9
I have a memo pad in my iQue: the about screen shows "Garmin Memo Pad v4.5G"

Maybe you need to check the install disk to see if it was deleted/omitted from your backup/hotsync.

Don

Don, you're confusing Note Pad with Memo Pad. They are two seperate programs. Note Pad lets you write notes directly on the screen in your own hand. It's a standard Palm app on Palm-branded devices, but the Ique doesn't come with it. It DOES come with Memo Pad, though.

NCTRNL
08-14-2003, 12:18 PM
Yeah, I was gonna say, all that is different is that they took the hard button off for the Memo pad and put the Que function button there. Fine with me because, honestly, how often do you use the memo pad.

demiller9
08-14-2003, 12:43 PM
Stymyx
I don't think I'm the only one who was confused... Ann 'Reinbeau' asked if there is a Memo Pad, if not what does she do with all of her memos. You replied to her, correct, there is no notepad.

I've never had a Palm-brand PDA and was not aware of the Notepad application. Now I am, thanks.

Don

Rockbeast
08-14-2003, 01:10 PM
Stymyx...Dude! Super! Glad to hear it...but what about LauncherX? Did you load that? How does it behave? Can it use collapsed VG area? Why do birds fly up in the sky? Just like me...they long to be...close to your Garmin iQue 3600!:D

gpser
08-14-2003, 01:13 PM
Stymyx,

A quick question...do you happen to know what rate (quality) the MP3 files you were playing back on the iQue are? My only problem (which others have reported also) is that my iQue hangs up and requires two reboots when playing back MP3's.

There is some speculation this might be due to the iQue only handling a particular sampling rate.

Thanks!

ALMS
08-14-2003, 01:14 PM
Another good Note Pad app is Sketcher v2.0. It's free and you can find it at www.palmgear.com or www.handango.com .

Stymyx
08-14-2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by demiller9
Stymyx
I don't think I'm the only one who was confused... Ann 'Reinbeau' asked if there is a Memo Pad, if not what does she do with all of her memos. You replied to her, correct, there is no notepad.

I've never had a Palm-brand PDA and was not aware of the Notepad application. Now I am, thanks.

Don
My bad, Don. You're right. Sorry 'bout that! :D

paul6347
08-14-2003, 01:25 PM
Just a quick note on the speed on the GPS. ALWAYS trust the GPS speed, it is definetly correct. If it's different that your spedo on your car, than your car's spedo is off. I like it to test the accuracy of different cars spedo, you can rely on your gps.

Paul

Stymyx
08-14-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by gpser
Stymyx,

A quick question...do you happen to know what rate (quality) the MP3 files you were playing back on the iQue are? My only problem (which others have reported also) is that my iQue hangs up and requires two reboots when playing back MP3's.

There is some speculation this might be due to the iQue only handling a particular sampling rate.

Thanks!
gpser,

I've tried 128kbps and 192kbps MP3 files, and both work great. I've never had to reset my iQue as a result of playing Mp3s. :)

Stymyx
08-14-2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Rockbeast
Stymyx...Dude! Super! Glad to hear it...but what about LauncherX? Did you load that? How does it behave? Can it use collapsed VG area? Why do birds fly up in the sky? Just like me...they long to be...close to your Garmin iQue 3600!:D
You're too funny! :)

I did try LauncherX v1.02 and it DID work fine, although as you already know, the VG won't collapse with it. For now, I'm not going to use it. I'm going to wait until Boz enables the collapsable VG, then I'll start using LX again. It'll give me something to look forward to! ;)

epro05
08-14-2003, 03:20 PM
gpser,

I tried several MP3's that I downloaded from various internet sources and they all work fine on the iQue. I don't know what encoding rate was used to create them.

I decided to rip some of my favorite CD tracks, using RealOne Player. First I ripped several tracks using the 56 kbps RealOne option. None of them would play, and all of them caused the iQue to lock up if I attemped to play them.

So I ripped again using the 96 kbps option, and they now all work just fine on the iQue.

RealOne Player also has a 64 kbps sampling option, but I have not ripped any CD tracks at that particular sampling rate.

Phil

Moose Man
08-14-2003, 06:48 PM
Jeff - sweet review. Glad to see your PM ;) I have come to the realization that I like the cover attaching to the bottom. I flip it completely over when using it in the car - till the car kit - gets here and then flip it back for pocket use. Acts as a double screen protector along with the Boxwave screen protector installed.

The cradle - this is basically the same cradle that Palm uses on it's Universal Connector series - I've never had a problem and I suspect that those that have are not familiar with this style or just got unlucky and received bad units.

So now that your are "gellin" - good!

Let's all have fun with our new toys!

scarypat2001
08-14-2003, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by epro05
gpser,

I tried several MP3's that I downloaded from various internet sources and they all work fine on the iQue. I don't know what encoding rate was used to create them.

I decided to rip some of my favorite CD tracks, using RealOne Player. First I ripped several tracks using the 56 kbps RealOne option. None of them would play, and all of them caused the iQue to lock up if I attemped to play them.

So I ripped again using the 96 kbps option, and they now all work just fine on the iQue.

RealOne Player also has a 64 kbps sampling option, but I have not ripped any CD tracks at that particular sampling rate.

Phil

I'M experiencing the lock-ups in the same fashion - needs two soft resets before running fine again.

I sampled my tracks at 128kbps. Could that be the source of my problems? What is funny is that I experienced two types of lock ups - one where the iQUE freezes, and the where it actually plays garbage...

Rockbeast
08-14-2003, 10:35 PM
I experienced two types of lock ups - one where the iQUE freezes, and the where it actually plays garbage...
Hey now scarypat2001...it may sound like garbage to you, but to a 16 year old it's some awesome head banging music!:D

...or could it be Beethoven?

--signed, Prof. Peter Schickele, with inspiration from P.D.Q. Bach:)

scarypat2001
08-14-2003, 11:36 PM
You never know...

If Garmin could develop a something so I could copy what I,m getting, I could make a fortune selling it to the "in" crowd...

:D :D :D

Stymyx
08-15-2003, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by PDA Paul
Jeff, could you report if you have had any lockups of the unit? I have heard on this site that several users are having lockup problems. If the answer is no, could you also mention how many days you have been using the GPS.

Thanks in advance.

Paul
Paul, I've used the GPS for 2 days now (collectively for about 4 hours), and its has not locked up on me. Not once! It's been VERY stable!