After browsing this forum I see that the standard solution for 802.11b problems on the e740 is to turn off encryption at the access point.
Should I conclude that the e740 does not support encryption on an 802.11b network?
Is it possible that some people are using access points that support passphrases and that switching to "traditional" WEP keys would haver worked rather than disabling encryption?
srrobinson2
09-29-2002, 10:26 AM
My e740 works fine with 128-bit WEP. What kind of problem are you having?
dtreadaway
09-29-2002, 10:01 PM
My question is pre-purchase.
I am an old "keyboard" and wireless guy going back to Psion Org II XP and radio based serial. I have followed with 3a, 3c and all Jornada HPC's working with 900, 2.4, and 5.3.
I am watching from the edge of the pool trying to decide which palmtop I will aim at when I take the plunge into the PocketPC pool (soon).
The e310 was my principle choice, but he e740 seems that much better.
Encrypted 802.11 (b; a, and now even g and 30wMil) are core to my work and even home network environments, so whatever I chose must be compliant.
Thanks for the guidance.
Prev Registered
09-30-2002, 09:37 AM
I'm using 128bit WEP with no problems between my e740 and Linksys router/AP.
HTH!
Bo Short
horseshoe7
10-03-2002, 08:22 PM
No, it does not work fine - at least not in my setup.
I'm going to try upgrading the flash on my newer(bought two weeks ago) WAP11, as someone recommended that as a solution to E740 WiFi problems on another thread... if that doesn't help, I'll try the PocketLAN solution someone has been recommending recently on this forum.
Fact is, I would normally tend to think the problem is more likely on the E740 side(Toshiba software is CRAP), than on the Linksys side. But, I'm also seeing a lot of bleeding edge problems with WiFi products in general - so, who knows where the problems could be - it might be that we are seeing MULTIPLE PROBLEMS.
... and a Bronx Cheer for all you folks who aren't experiencing any problems, and don't believe that we are experiencing problems - or who just refuse to believe that there are any problems with the E740... Look - if we don't complain about the problems, how in the hell is Toshiba going to know that they've got problems? ... or do they really even care? I like the Toshiba hardware - but their software reeks :eek:
What gets me, is that with ALL THE PROBLEMS EVERYONE IS REPORTING, Toshiba hasn't fixed even one... what did they do, FIRE all the programmers once they got the thing halfway working?
At least Microsoft just released an update to the buggy VS.NET/CF PocketPC development Beta 1... but, only after we developers started screaming BLOODY MURDER... Yes sir, that's what we need to get Toshiba's attention on the buggy E740 software - scream BLOODY MURDER!! :mad:
Prev Registered
10-03-2002, 08:55 PM
might be YOUR setup...
Just to ask some basic questions, since I didn't research your particular problem history in other threads/posts - Are you sure a) WEP is enabled PROPERLY on both AP and e740? b) Encryption levels are the same c)Pass phrase is properly entered ASCII/HEX the same on both ends? When I first started out, it took me a while to get it right. Don't mean to ask you demeaning questions, but I don't know any other way to start with an answer as to why your particular setup is non functional with WEP....
... and a Bronx Cheer for all you folks who aren't experiencing any problems, and don't believe that we are experiencing problems - or who just refuse to believe that there are any problems with the E740... Look - if we don't complain about the problems, how in the hell is Toshiba going to know that they've got problems? ... or do they really even care? I like the Toshiba hardware - but their software reeks
Pretty sure no one in this thread is claiming your problems do not exist. I (and others) simply stated that WEP is working properly on MY (and others') setups. This is what the thread was about...
At least Microsoft just released an update to the buggy VS.NET/CF PocketPC development Beta 1... but, only after we developers started screaming BLOODY MURDER... Yes sir, that's what we need to get Toshiba's attention on the buggy E740 software - scream BLOODY MURDER!!
Again, what does this have to do with WEP?
I would wager that most PPC owners (non brand specific generalization) have experienced problems of one sort or another. If screaming makes you feel better, my regards to your vocal cords. There are threads for rants like this. This thread WAS simply about WEP.... You took it to a different, unrelated level.... Incidentally, there are a lot of folks complaining to Toshiba.
In all sincerity, I hope Toshiba releases the fixes (patch, flash rom, tweak, whatever), that fixes all our issues.
In the mean time, if you want to see if anyone could help you get WEP working on your setup, that WOULD be on topic.... :-)
Bo
horseshoe7
10-03-2002, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Prev Registered
might be YOUR setup...
In the mean time, if you want to see if anyone could help you get WEP working on your setup, that WOULD be on topic.... :-)
Bo
First off, let's get something straight - I'm not asking for "help". And the fact is, this particular unit has SO MANY bugs, that this is just one more that I'm working on.
Why do you seem to exude the impression that anyone with a particular problem shouldn't talk about it? You got stock in Toshiba, or something?
Prev Registered
10-03-2002, 09:20 PM
In a thread that is on topic.....
The fact that you want no help is now perfectly clear. My apologies. I was only trying to offer assistance. Have a nice evening....
BTW, no, I don't have stock in Toshiba. Ebay, however has been VERY good to me. Wouldn't want to 'exude the impression' however, that I'm giving stock tips (read:help). 'night....
Bo
horseshoe7
10-03-2002, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Prev Registered
In a thread that is on topic.....
The fact that you want no help is now perfectly clear. My apologies. I was only trying to offer assistance. Have a nice evening....
BTW, no, I don't have stock in Toshiba. Ebay, however has been VERY good to me. Wouldn't want to 'exude the impression' however, that I'm giving stock tips (read:help). 'night....
Bo
I HATE Ebay. Can you say shill? How about Anchorage Aces?
... and anyone who bought Yahoo stock at 200, because some doofus in the movie Frequency was shown driving a brand new Mercedes with YAHOO plates, deserves to be holding a stock now worth 10.
Ebay is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of a group of people who are trying to HIDE PROBLEMS... Smoke, mirrors, and lawyers might help you to get your stock price up for a while (Enron, Enron), but eventually, in the words of Eric Clapton, the bottom will fall out (Martha, Martha).
Better sell - NOW, before it's too late.
These forums CAN work to support problem solving, by supporting the exchange of information - but when that right is taken away, a forum becomes the bastion of sheep and is ripe for abuse by unscrupulous hucksters. So, beware - if something sounds too good to be true - it is.
Prev Registered
10-03-2002, 09:42 PM
OK....
You win....
Bo
ctitanic
10-04-2002, 07:49 AM
I agree, problems exist (www.pc-counselor.8m.com/e740.htm) and we should show them so they can be fixed. But about WiFi I have not found any. The majority of all cases are due to problems in the other network components. Believe me.
;)
horseshoe7
10-04-2002, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by ctitanic
I agree, problems exist (www.pc-counselor.8m.com/e740.htm) and we should show them so they can be fixed. But about WiFi I have not found any. The majority of all cases are due to problems in the other network components. Beleive me.
;)
I "beleive" that you have not encountered problems on the Toshiba/PocketPC side - but they DO exist. Take the cumbersome and balky WEP change menu, for instance.
In any event, you must understand my skepticism with the Toshiba/PocketPC device... I've found so many other bugs, in so short a time span, in so many areas, that I tend to look at the platform as a Beta... it is not ready for prime time - it is just an expensive toy, and development platform for the future. A future that will arrive when the software technology can catch up with the hardware technology.
But Wep is not a problem, it's working even when I agree in the point that could be have a better program design....
Reading thru the threads here regarding the WEP issue, it would be my conclusion that there are a lot of people experiencing problems with WEP on their PocketPCs. What is not clear is where the actual problem is occurring. More specifically, it may be a problem limited to certain Linksys access points, and may be due to a combination of the Toshiba combined with certain Linksys APs.
Stating that there is NOT a problem with WEP on Toshiba PocketPCs, just because your setup with your specific set of hardware is working, is short-sighted at best. It is simply a data point - but not a very good one, because you haven't provided us with your configuration. If it is working, what kind of router(manufacturer, model #, software release version) are you using(and how you are getting/setting your IP address - see below). I'll provide my configuration later on tonight(I'm only around the router a couple of times a week).
We also need this information from the other people who have been experiencing problems. Once we have this information, we can start to charaterize and pinpoint the problem(if one does indeed exist) better.
I will tell you that there IS a problem with the WEP configuration menu - it is unclear whether WEP changes are actually taking place when you try to change values (when using the keyboard, and hitting the return key, the dialog disappears, and when you re-enter the dialog, it appears that the value is not being properly updated(based on intuitive analysis of the number of *****'s in the password field). When you combine this problem with the problem that some of us have been seeing when rekeying the WEP password, it makes debugging the problem all the more difficult. This is what makes the aftermarket IP reconfiguration software solution some have mentioned seem appealling to me, as I assume I won't have to go thru this cumbersome WEP dialog to reconfigure.
Someone else here has stated that the IP address is not getting refreshed from the router somehow when the Toshiba is turned on/off when using a WEP. I haven't verified this, but that may explain some of the things I have been seeing.
So, I put this question to the naysayers - What type of IP address configuration are you using? Are you hard-coding it - or are you getting it from the router? It seems that one common thread for those of us who are having problems with WEP, is that we are trying to get our IP address from the router (not hard-coding). Maybe that is the clue to the "problem"?
horseshoe7
10-04-2002, 08:46 PM
After reading the following thread at Brighthand, I'm even more convinced there is some kind of combination problem with WEP + DHCP on the Toshiba (but possibly only in combination with certain APs)...