Ique Internet connectivity

[fulkrum90]

Hi all

It looks like the issue of internet connectivity on the Ique is now consigned to the archives. Garmin have a patch available now and can be downloaded from http://www.garmin.com/support/agree.jsp?product=010-00264-00
This fixes the flaky netstack on the Palm OS. It will allow web browsing and e-mail (pop) functionality on the device. If you want a pop client for it for free then go to http://www.eudora.com/internetsuite/ and you can download Eudoras Palm internet suite for free. (best one I have seen).

In earlier threads I have seen reference to the enfora wireless portfolio. I have met with the directors of Enfora and they have worked on this patch as well as Garmin. I am now using the wallet painlessly to check e-mail and surf. I am using the GPRS model. All I can say is fantastic package. All in one hand solution for everything. E-Mail, in car navigation, PIM tool, MP3 Player, browser, word and excel editor and Starcaddy to boot. My golfing colleagues are all hooked on the blinking thing. I just need to convince them to buy one from me now. :D

[reinbeau]

Originally posted by fulkrum90
Hi all

It looks like the issue of internet connectivity on the Ique is now consigned to the archives. Garmin have a patch available now and can be downloaded from http://www.garmin.com/support/agree.jsp?product=010-00264-00
This fixes the flaky netstack on the Palm OS. Isn't this the patch we already knew about? It's dated 9/18. If not, I stand corrected..... :confused:

[fulkrum90]

Hi Reinbeau

The patch is the same patch you know about but a lot of people out there dont. I was also addressing the many questions about the Enfora wallet and thought I would add my bit about Eudoras software to make a complete solution. newcomers to the forum looking to ask the question will now see a thread with the appropriate subject line. I didnt meant to confuse anyone just reaffirm the solution in a clear and concise manner.:cool:

[reinbeau]

Originally posted by fulkrum90
Hi Reinbeau

The patch is the same patch you know about but a lot of people out there dont. I was also addressing the many questions about the Enfora wallet and thought I would add my bit about Eudoras software to make a complete solution. newcomers to the forum looking to ask the question will now see a thread with the appropriate subject line. I didnt meant to confuse anyone just reaffirm the solution in a clear and concise manner.:cool: Ah, no problem, I was afraid of missing anything :) You're right, it's good to keep issues fresh so new people reading can play along, too!

[alriclam]

Anyone know how much the enfora portfolio for wireless LANs will retail for, when it does come out? I saw prices on the range of $400 for their other products, I'm hoping its not this much though.....

[youngbilly]

How do you connect to the internet from the iQue through the USB?

[fulkrum90]

With regards to the enfora wallet (WLAN) for the Garmin. It has to be redesigned. The palm universal connector is not the same connector on the Ique and the current WLAN wallet is also too small for the Ique. You should see an announcement in about 6 to 7 weeks.

With regards to the ique connecting to the internet via USB. Why would you want to even try???? I dont think it is possible but I could be wrong. I never had the need to try it. You do mean with it sitting on the cradle or do you mean a different way.

[fulkrum90]

alriclam

It is expected to retail for mid $200 some where. The Garmin specific one should be around the same.

[Error94]

Youngbilly,

Check out the thread:

http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23687

Info there on connecting to the internet via USB.



Fulkrum90,

Because it's there. :) (I'm sure other people have better reasons, but that's mine.)

[chris5758]

Is the Palm Modem Connectivity Kit compatible with the Q? Sounds like a stupid question but the Q isn't really grouped with the rest of the Other Palm products...if you catch my drift...If I went out and bought a plain old palm cradle, will it work with the Ique??? (without frying it)

[reinbeau]

Originally posted by chris5758
Is the Palm Modem Connectivity Kit compatible with the Q? Sounds like a stupid question but the Q isn't really grouped with the rest of the Other Palm products...if you catch my drift...If I went out and bought a plain old palm cradle, will it work with the Ique??? (without frying it) The M505 USB cradle, part number P10819U works just fine with the iQue.

[fulkrum90]

Please be aware that the connector on the ique is not a palm universal connector. I think the pinouts are the same but it doesnt hold a palm accessory like a palm would. I tried the Enfora WiFi portfolio and it was very loose, too loose to be useable.

I contacted Garmin about this and it was confirmed that it wasnt the universal connector. Similar but not.

[jinasys1]

Originally posted by fulkrum90
Hi all

It looks like the issue of internet connectivity on the Ique is now consigned to the archives. Garmin have a patch available now and can be downloaded from http://www.garmin.com/support/agree.jsp?product=010-00264-00
This fixes the flaky netstack on the Palm OS. It will allow web browsing and e-mail (pop) functionality on the device.

Been away from the forum for a while...Question. Does this fix allow using a cellphone as a modem (Sprint PCS) and if so are there any Co's out there that make "phone specific" cables to connect to the iQue??

[vipros]

Actually we are looking into the possibility of having a standalong IP address in iQue. Now we all know we can have it via USB; the next question is to have it on WLAN.

The use of having an IP on WLAN is more than just Internet browsing/email. It is REALLY useful at home to control an HTPC remotely and wirelessly.

[fulkrum90]

jinasys1

Yes. As long as your cell phone has a modem in it then you can connect via IR using the generic IR modem settings on the iQue. If you have any doubt as to the settings, reply to this post and also tell me the cellphone you are trying to connect with. I will give you the generic settings that do work either for CSD or GPRS. Modem withstanding.

[thatlonghairguy]

Originally posted by jinasys1
Been away from the forum for a while...Question. Does this fix allow using a cellphone as a modem (Sprint PCS) and if so are there any Co's out there that make "phone specific" cables to connect to the iQue??

I'm using my cellphone as a modem (Verizon) using a cable from http://www.supplynetwireless.com, but I bought the one for the palm universal connector (M500 series) and I am very dissatisfied with the connection to the iQue. It comes out with just the tinyiest upward pressure!

I also looked at http://www.gomadic.com, but I didn't get one so I don't know if it locks to the iQue properly. If someone else has a gomadic cable, let us know how it works.

[Catmando]

Which phone are you using? What software on the IQue?

If I have this correct... Connecting the cellphone to the IQue allows you retreive email and browse the web (with appropriate software on the IQue, of course)

No additional parts... modem, etc.?

[sred]

Could you list all the modems (and model #s) that have worked with the iQue?

I assume that the Palm P10821U works. Yes?

Thanks

[kamwu]

thatlonghairguy

I am looking for a modem cable connecting my Verizon LG VX4400 cell phone to the iQue. After searching on the web, I found that the universal connectors for the Palm M5xx and Palm Tungsten/Zire may be different. The iQue and Tungsten have the same connector type. Please see the different cable/connector types at:

http://pcables.com/cat2.html

I suspect that you bought this cable designed for Palm M5xx:

http://www.supplynetwireless.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=5898

Instead, you should have bought a cable for Tungsten like this

http://www.gomadic.com/lgtopatuziwi.html

Gomadic also carries a cable for the Palm M5xx, which may be similar to the one you bought from Supplynetwireless. See

http://www.gomadic.com/lgmobphoncab4.html

I searched Supplynetwireless's site, they don't seem to have a cable for Tungsten.

[thatlonghairguy]

Originally posted by Catmando
Which phone are you using? What software on the IQue?

If I have this correct... Connecting the cellphone to the IQue allows you retreive email and browse the web (with appropriate software on the IQue, of course)

No additional parts... modem, etc.?

Phone: Verizon's LG VX4400
Software: Palm's Versamail & WebPro, although I've tried others like Eudora, Blazer, etc, and they work fine too.

You do need an account with an ISP that you can connect via phone! If you have gotten a phone from Verizon since June, chances are good that you can use their Express Network service (speeds up to 144Kbps, typically around 60Kbps). See http://www.howardforums.com and go to Verizon's forum for details.

[thatlonghairguy]

Originally posted by kamwu
thatlonghairguy
I found that the universal connectors for the Palm M5xx and Palm Tungsten/Zire may be different. The iQue and Tungsten have the same connector type.

I bet you're right. After purchasing several accessory cables from different sources for the iQue, each with the "universal" connector, I've found that it ain't so universal after all....

The connector I have the most trouble with does not have a locking mechanism and has a thin plastic extension across the back. Maybe it fits the M5xx models perfectly. But I *know* that the reason it comes out of the iQue much too easily is due to the plastic guides on each side of the connector.

This troublesome connector's plastic guides aren't perfect cubes: the back of the guides are sloped, much like the plastic guides on your iQue cradle. The connectors that hold the best have non-sloped plastic guides.

When I get back home, I'll try and post some pictures of what I mean. Unfortunately, I never can tell on the web pages what kind of connector I'm buying!

I think that I bought this one:

http://www.supplynetwireless.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=5902

Maybe this one was the one I should have bought instead, but SupplyNet didn't have my phone cross-referenced with it:

http://www.supplynetwireless.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=7117

[kamwu]

thatlonghairguy

Supplynetwireless's cables are $10 more expensive than Gomadic's. Gomadic also offer free cable exchanges if you change your cell phone or PDA. Is there any reason why you bought the cable from Supplynetwireless?

You don't need an ISP account to connect to the web or get e-mail. Verizon's 2G (slower) data network, called the Verizon Quick 2 Net, is free, while their 3G data (faster) network, called the eXpress Network costs at least $35 a month. For the VQN setup procedure, see the instructions available at Supplynetwireless's site or the Gomadic's site.

[Bobny]

kamwu,

I've been using Verizon's cellphone service for the last three years to connect to the internet with the cellphone as a modem for my laptop, I am charged for Mobile Web at $6.95/month in additonal to my normal monthly rate. This is at an advertised speed of 19.2k but it usually works out to about 10k bps. The service is available whenever you can get a digital Verizon signal, almost everywhere.

Given that, I'm very interested in your statement about connecting to the internet at no additional charge using Verizon.

Can you connect using your Verizon cellphone as a modem for no additional charge beyond your normal monthly contract?

[thatlonghairguy]

Originally posted by kamwu
thatlonghairguy

Supplynetwireless's cables are $10 more expensive than Gomadic's. Gomadic also offer free cable exchanges if you change your cell phone or PDA. Is there any reason why you bought the cable from Supplynetwireless?



Yes, it's because I'm stupid. I paid too much *AND* bought the wrong one. Anybody wanna buy a cable?


You don't need an ISP account to connect to the web or get e-mail. Verizon's 2G (slower) data network, called the Verizon Quick 2 Net, is free, while their 3G data (faster) network, called the eXpress Network costs at least $35 a month. For the VQN setup procedure, see the instructions available at Supplynetwireless's site or the Gomadic's site.

You are right about the Q2N, I stand corrected. (See my response above. :-) But I rarely use it, because the Express Network is so much faster, and is also free. Look closely at the Verizon Wireless forum at http://www.howardforums.com, it's the first thread in that forum.

Both the QNC and the Express Network will use your minutes up on your Verizon calling plan. So if you have unlimited nights and weekends and you use the cellphone as your modem during those times, it is really free. Peak usage deducts from your plan minutes.

[Catmando]

Recently purchased cables from Gomadic for Motorola T720 cell phone (through Verizon) and attach it to the IQue 3600. Downloaded the Eudora internet suite.

Able to receive email... keep getting error sending mail...

I've deleted and re-installed Eudora... deletd and re-setup the ISP account (with Earthlink)... Dials the local number and retreives email flawlessly (and quickly, I might add!)... Able to use the web browser... But... Error message when it attempts to send... Something about incorrect addressing during the smtp phase... However, I've checked numerous times and it is exactly the same as on the laptop... which works fine...

Am I missing something?

[kamwu]

I placed an order for a Gomadic LG to Tungsten cable and expect to get it early next week. I will try it once I recieve it. Did you follow the instruction at

http://www.gomadic.com/support.html

[anay]

Does anyone know if I can use T-Mobile's
GSM/GPRS service with the iQue *without*
using a cable? I.e. via IR? I have confirmed
that the IR connection works by exchanging
wallpapers, ringtones, etc. Also, the phone
(a SonyEricsson T300) has no problems with
browing the web via t-mobile gprs. Its just
getting the two to work that way which is the
problem!

[losborn]

I have connected to the internet using infared with my Nokia 6200 phone on AT&T Wireless. I did get soft resets every once in a while, so I don't know how useful it's going to be right now.

[Catmando]

Thanks for the input... Always a great forum...

Yes... I did follow the info on the Gomadic site...

Think I found something...

When I ask to create new message... The From: box has my username and the pop name also...

i.e. username@earthlink.net@pop.earthlink.net

Can't delete it nor will it change when I remove entries in network (PALM), or connections (PALM), or accounts (Eudora)...

Still working on it... I'm going to try a soft reset...

Nope... Going to try a delete and reinstall of Eudora Suite...

See ya later

[rkevwill]

Do you folks remember back in the old days, when we had to input our modem strings ourselves in our computers? From talking to the excellent tech folks at Gomadic, its important to have the proper string in there, for the phone and service you use. Frankly, the strings Gomadic gave me for the Verizon connection (the internal verizon network connection) were the best. (thats the one where I only need to have the palm dial #777 and some strange username and password. Interestingly enough, the tech at verizon was very helpful in giving me an alternate string for a connection directly to earthlink. I was able to use that connection to earthlink, when I was still in digital, but OUTSIDE verizon's network! Very cool:) I have been told it will not work at all with an analog connection, but I will try it sometime when I am out of my area.

[kamwu]

I found the best installation guide is from Supplynetwireless.com's web site at

http://www.supplynetwireless.com/drivers.cfm

Download the "PDA/Cellular Instructions for PalmOS and PocketPC", a file called PDA.zip. I followed the instruction to install my Gomadic Internet cable without a problem.

[Jochen Kottgen]

Does anyone know how to connect my IQue to a Blackberry 6710 to gain internet access? Is it possible?

[kamwu]

If you can configure the Blackberry as a wireless modem and find a right cable to connect between the Blackberry and the iQue, then you should be able to connect the iQue to the Internet.

[fulkrum90]

Guys

The Rim device is not designed to be used as a modem. You either use that to connect or you get a cellular handset or an Enfora GPRS portfolio. With a cellular handset the setup is fairly simple. You will have to us a dial up string and more than likely have to use a script. This depends on the network you are using, T-Mobile etc.

I believe the Enfora unit is available in the states now for about $150. The enabler-g is the best palm modem manager I have seen yet and very stable. Dummies can use it it is that simple.

Scripts depend on the handset and the network so I cant help there with this post.

All the best with it.

[ann100]

Any one know where can I get the data cable for Ique 3600 and the wireless phone Samsung A500?

[kamwu]

Here it is
http://www.gomadic.com/satopatuziwi.html

You can buy it from cayeldo for $5.00 cheaper. See

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=cayeldo&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50

Select the extended length if you want a longer cable.