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Pekkle
11-18-2003, 01:43 AM
I have just started playing Geocaching recently, I would like to know if iQue can route to the nearest coordinates by car? then park along the side than continue routing by foot? as most people know cache will not be on streets but rather on a off site location that map doesn't cover, will ique route those points?

MDuarte
11-18-2003, 02:51 AM
Hi!

The info I got from my Garmin distributor/representative here in Portugal, and indeed I experienced that, is that the IQue will route you "by road" to the rearest spot on a road (closest to the waypoint) and then "draws" a straight line from that nearest place on the road to the waypoint itself (like a non routing GPS or like if you had the Off Road routing turned on).

Happy navigations.

MDuarte
:p

jonasolof
11-18-2003, 04:02 AM
Not necessarily. I routed fom home to a spot in a field where they built a large movie theatre. Guess I had show "on road" working. I got a straight line 55560 km long to where Lat 0 meets long 0, out ijn the ocean. I haven't tried to reproduce it, though, so I don't know what rules I broke.

Jonas

Tried it again. It now worked as pointed out by apersson850 further down this thread.

MDuarte
11-18-2003, 04:19 AM
Hi!

How distant was that point from the nearest road?
In my case it was just a few hundred meters and I had "on road" selected.
Maybe if there is no road within a certain range the IQue gets messed up?! Have you tried to do that in MapSource? What was the result?Should be similar,no?

Argh, computers... :o
Its bad with them, but its worse without them?
(where did I hear this??) :D



MDuarte

jonasolof
11-18-2003, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by MDuarte
Hi!

How distant was that point from the nearest road?
In my case it was just a few hundred meters and I had "on road" selected.



100 meters. No, I didn't try in Mapsource. Wasn't a priority for me.

Jonas

Pekkle
11-18-2003, 04:34 AM
How do I route by coordinates exactly? I have the way point entered into the address, but all I saw was "location" when you click on it, it shows the map only.. but how do I ask to route to that coordinate?

MDuarte
11-18-2003, 04:36 AM
Jonas...

give me the coordinates, please, I want to see how it works with mine, although I don't have your local maps loaded, and I'm in Europe.


Bye for now
MDuarte

jonasolof
11-18-2003, 05:06 AM
Duarte

Don't have the time now, later

Jonas

Couldn't reproduce it. Now it works as it should.

apersson850
11-18-2003, 06:25 AM
It works for me, too.
First I placed a point in the forest, a few hundred meters from any road. Got routing to the nearest road end, then a straight line to the point.
Next, I tried placing a point in the ocean, and route to that. Now it's calculating...
When ready, it routed along the roads, then along a ferry line that passed not too far from the point, then directly to the point. Reasonable from the iQue's point of view, of course, although not possible in the real world.
I regard it as a "Stupid question got the answer it deserved".

Routing to a point is easy.
Pan the map to the point in question. Tap the point, so that the waypoint name is shown on its own little sign.
Now tap the routing icon at the bottom of the screen. When that application opens up and you have a highlighted waypoint, there is an additional option on top of the regular ones, an option which allows "Route to whichever-point-it-is".

When the Grafitti area is shown, tapping the routing softkey (top right in the "silk screen" area) will give the same result.

jelly
11-18-2003, 07:16 AM
For geocaching what I do, is route to the cache like you are going to any address. Then when you get as close as you can switch the routing to "off road" this will give you the distance and show you where to go. It is easy. Usually the normal routing such as fastest route or shortest route will get you in the general area, then you can switch.. Easy.. Welcome to geocaching!!

Pekkle
11-18-2003, 01:29 PM
Cool.. I found it... Thanks guys! :) Now the fun part GeoCaching!!

:D

waltisimo
11-18-2003, 01:34 PM
With the second update, switching to offroad routing should not be needed. The iQue should automatically switch to off road style routing once it runs out of road.

I haven't tried it yet though, I can imagine that sometimes it would be nice to force it into offroad mode sooner than it would do it automatically.

petesl
11-18-2003, 03:16 PM
I've found that you do need to switch to off road, especially in the situation where, say, you have a cache at the back of a park, close to a nearby residential street without public access to the cache.

Result?
With non-off-road setting: takes you out the park entrance, and forces you around the residential streets to the nearest point on a public road.

With off-road setting: gives you a clear, straight shot to the cache.

Here is an outline of how I'm joyously using a program called Cachemate , in combination with a premium membershio at geocaching.com, to take my cache waypoints with me achieve Ique cache nirvana .

(I posted the substance of this in another thread, but realized that people who might want to see it might not find it there)

I've been using the pay version of Cachemate ($7) and it painlessly imports gpx and loc files (with numerous caches in each one) to Ique by converting them into palm pdb files (which are installed by double clicking or dragging them to the palm install tool). This functionality is through an included utility.

The beauty of Cachemate is that it brings in all the info, hints, up to 10 past logs for imported caches. It will read your current location from Ique and list the caches according to their distance from you (which is displayed on the list) It talks to the Ique and creates waypoints for Caches in the Ique list on request.

Also, if you subscribe to premium level ($3 a month or less) on geocaching.com, you can have .gpx files sent to you nightly by e-mail, according to the criteria you specify. E.g., I get regular updates of the 100 closest caches to my house and all caches I have found. I convert them both to pdb, then load them in sequence to my palm (the "found" file overwrites the "nearest" file so found caches appear only once in Cachemate, in the found category). Likewise, when I'm headed out of town, I have geocaching.com send a gpx file of 100 closest caches to my destination, convert and import it to a special category I create in Cachemate.

So, the typical sequence on a cache, from import to find, is:

1) Have geocache.com send me a gpx file tailored to my needs.
2) Convert the file to .pdb format using Cachemate utility and import to Ique by double clicking on the file, then syncing.
3) Open Cachemate on the palm and accept the waypoints.
4) Sort the caches according to distance from me.
5) find a nearby cache that I want, and click "Map" in Cachemate to make a waypoint for the Ique
6) Navigate to a spot near the cache with Ique street navigation.
7) Adjust Ique preferences so Maps->Show Location is set to "At GPS location" and Route->Route preference is changed from from "Fastest time" or "shorter distance" "to "Off Road" (this step prevents the Ique from trying to keep the pointer on roads, and futilely trying to navigate on roads to a point in the middle of the woods, draws a straight line to the cache).
8) While walking to site, switch between the map screen (which diplays distance to waypoint) and the GPS screen (which displays coordinates for comparison with cache coords).
9) Find and log the cache