Auto Time program

[CaptMike]

Could the ique be programmed to automatically change the time of day based on the sat. position of the unit?

This would be useful in using the alarms. You would not have to do the time conversion from your "home" time to the time zone that you are in. Example: You have the Time Of Day set to your "home" time on the West Coast. You set the alarm to wake up at 6 AM while your on the East Coast. When the alarm sounds its 6 AM at your "home" area (West Coast) but its now 9 AM where your at.

Seems that the Auto update of the time function could be a very doable thing. Much like the Auto Time function of Cell phones as you travel around the country.

[Moose Man]

What's the question? I'm too distracted by the Avatar to answer......:)

[CaptMike]

Originally posted by Moose Man
What's the question? I'm too distracted by the Avatar to answer......:)

I think that you were kidding Moose, if not......look for the "?" in my post.

[reinbeau]

Originally posted by Moose Man
What's the question? I'm too distracted by the Avatar to answer......:) Yes, and if you've got three messages in your view at once, it's very distracting! The moose avatar between.....well, you know! ;) :rolleyes: ;)

[rwsmith123]

Originally posted by CaptMike
Could the ique be programmed to automatically change the time of day based on the sat. position of the unit?

This would be useful in using the alarms. You would not have to do the time conversion from your "home" time to the time zone that you are in. Example: You have the Time Of Day set to your "home" time on the West Coast. You set the alarm to wake up at 6 AM while your on the East Coast. When the alarm sounds its 6 AM at your "home" area (West Coast) but its now 9 AM where your at.

Seems that the Auto update of the time function could be a very doable thing. Much like the Auto Time function of Cell phones as you travel around the country.

Yeah, it wouldn't be that hard to do.

[kenspice]

Who cares if they make a new app for time change? I can't get off this page anyway:eek:

[PFflyer]

I believe it already does change the system clock. It only take one sat bar to turn black for it to happen. It won't change the selected time zone though. I believe GPS resets the internal UTC time but it is up to you manually to select the time zone that it displays from the UTC time conversion. The time zone seems to also be loaded from setting of resync computer.

I had a little problem last month when I travelled to Europe. When I arrived in Ireland from S.Fla EST. I used GPS screen 'set new location' and it aquired Sats normally. That night I added some new maps from my laptop. The resync appearantly took my laptops EST time setting and reset the iQue time to EST. The next day I could not get any GPS satellites to aquire (in what I thought was normal expected aquire time). I thought the GPS receiver was not working. Turns out it screwed up the time/location relationship. GPS was calculating what satellites to look for but at the wrong time of day.

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by reinbeau
Yes, and if you've got three messages in your view at once, it's very distracting! The moose avatar between.....well, you know! ;) :rolleyes: ;)

Stymyx, Quick we need your help over here. You're good with making these avatars, can you take Ann's picture and put it on top of CaptMike's avatar. Wait 'till she shows it to her husband. :D

[Moose Man]

Originally posted by CaptMike
I think that you were kidding Moose, if not......look for the "?" in my post.

Yes I was kidding, that what the smiley face was for....


CC Stymyx, Quick we need your help over here. You're good with making these avatars, can you take Ann's picture and put it on top of CaptMike's avatar. Wait 'till she shows it to her husband.

I think the avatar is on the verge of getting ousted ala Clear Channel Radio so Curious Cat (It's Mr. Cat).....lets not go there:D

I think Ann looks fine without the PG-13toon anima :D

[funbob]

Okay, don't kill me.... :D

[Moose Man]

Originally posted by funbob
Okay, don't kill me.... :D

You need to trademark it before Ann sees it in the morning.......:D

[rhanson]

Getting back on topic.....

It shouldn't be too hard to build a table of gps location vs. time zone, and then set the time zone accordingly. Still won't help the PC sync issue, but it's a start.

Maybe Walt can even build it in to BrightIQ. (please? :-) )

[SlugBug]

Originally posted by funbob
Okay, don't kill me.... :D

I think we really need the 5 seconds delay. :p

[navbear]

Time zones can be confusing.
When I visited Petrified Forest Natl Park (couple of years ago), AZ did not apply daylight saving, but the park did due to being "national". Or was it the other way round? Do you still have different daylight saving periods in different states of the US?

[reinbeau]

Originally posted by Curious Cat
Stymyx, Quick we need your help over here. You're good with making these avatars, can you take Ann's picture and put it on top of CaptMike's avatar. Wait 'till she shows it to her husband. :D Bad Cat! :D

My husband got a good laugh out of it!

And you won't have me to poke fun of for a whole week, I'm going to Tennessee in tonight.

[apersson850]

Originally posted by rhanson
It shouldn't be too hard to build a table of gps location vs. time zone, and then set the time zone accordingly. Still won't help the PC sync issue, but it's a start. Such a solution may seem good at the desk, but doesn't work well in the real world.
What do you think happen when you are close to the border between two time zones? Apart from these borders being rather twisting in some areas, where they follow country borders, which requires some database to keep track of where these borders are, the positioning inaccuracy would also lead to the time jumping back and forth, as the GPS thinks you are constantly changing time zone.

Admittedly, this is not a problem for most people, but as a manufacturer, Garmin has to consider all potential users as much as possible. I think the solution my Vista has, where you enter your time zone, or even country, when necessary, and then set DST to Off, On or Auto, as you please, is the best solution. In Auto, it applies the DST rule for that country.
If there are local deviations, then you can force it to On or Off.

Also, if you have the time zone changing automatically, it will play havoc with the ETA time, if you drive across time zone limits. Either you display in the time zone of the destination, which isn't the time you have where you are now, or you display according to the time zone you started from, or according to the zone where you are. Airlines always use local time zone, so that may be the best choice in this case too, but at least there are some decisions to make.

[Skata]

Originally posted by Moose Man
What's the question? I'm too distracted by the Avatar to answer......:)

I keep watching that avatar, thinking something has got to give!

But, it's more like a moose running towards you and never getting closer.

[apersson850]

Sometimes it's good to live in Sweden, where we see girls like that walk around all the time. Makes it easier to disregard from the avatar, and answer the questions instead.

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by funbob
Okay, don't kill me.... :D

FunBob,

Kill you? No way, you're my new hero.....!

[CaptMike]

Originally posted by navbear
Time zones can be confusing.
When I visited Petrified Forest Natl Park (couple of years ago), AZ did not apply daylight saving, but the park did due to being "national". Or was it the other way round? Do you still have different daylight saving periods in different states of the US?

Yes

[CaptMike]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by apersson850
[B]Airlines always use local time zone, so that may be the best choice in this case too, but at least there are some decisions to make.

Note quite true

Airlines use Local (L) times zones ONLY when it applies to scheduled departure/arival times for the public to use/see.

All other aspects related to that particular flight, such as applying the current and forcast weather for that flight, figuring crew rest for the flight crew, documenting start/stop times for that flight, all cockpit voice recorder times are done in Zulu time.
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[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by CaptMike
[QUOTE]Originally posted by apersson850
[B]Airlines always use local time zone, so that may be the best choice in this case too, but at least there are some decisions to make.

Note quite true

Airlines use Local (L) times zones ONLY when it applies to scheduled departure/arival times for the public to use/see.

All other aspects related to that particular flight, such as applying the current and forcast weather for that flight, figuring crew rest for the flight crew, documenting start/stop times for that flight, all cockpit voice recorder times are done in Zulu time.
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I couldn't call myself "Curious" Cat if I didn't ask. How the hell did they settle on Zuku time? (assuming this wasn't a joke)

[lycestra]

Originally posted by Curious Cat
FunBob,

Kill you? No way, you're my new hero.....!

woah, you guys have been up to stuff....

But do you know the site that animation comes from? hmmm? (one tendancy of japanese CG artists now has been to state clearly, even in good english, that their art is not to be posted on any other sites.. just wait until bokkie find the jump rope girl. ;) )

anyway... uhm... back on track. I kind thought that the time zone would be automatically figured out, but for the system to do something automatically that we normally always do by hand could be really bad if it got it wrong. if Garmin added it, it would have been disabled by default.

Do detailed maps contain enough information that it might be able to do something like that? or basemaps? also even considering daylight savings time, for those who have it? (i kinda hope if you know an area's space continuum (got good detailed maps), it would have some idea of the local time continuum too. Or was that against Einstein?) If it happened, it would need to display a dialog, until it is dismissed. Even if a soft reset occured, it would pop back up until the user knew it. alarms aren't time zone aware, so having your one-hour-before-the-big-meeting alarm go off one hour late without your knowledge is a Bad Thing. Maybe thats enough reason that Garmin didn't add it...

It's a very possible idea, but another fly in the ointment is figuring out the borders and ensuring their reliability is beyond mere mortals. Especially for Europe, no?

[apersson850]

All right, I meant what the passenger sees.
The analogy is total, since what the user of the iQue sees isn't what it uses internally either.

[bilofsky]

Originally posted by rhanson
It shouldn't be too hard to build a table of gps location vs. time zone, and then set the time zone accordingly. Still won't help the PC sync issue, but it's a start.

Maybe Walt can even build it in to BrightIQ. (please? :-) )

This is a can of worms I'm not going near.

If time zones followed lines of longitude, it would be easy. But no such luck.

Take a look at this world map (http://www.worldtimezone.com/) and figure how you're going to translate a GPS position into the correct time.

Then think about daylight savings, which is similar in many places but there are enough local differences to complicate the situation hugely.

I already deal with this in Tide Tool and it's a huge PITA. And in that case the database already gives the time zone for each location - I'm just dealing with daylight savings.

[Chrisq]

I once was in a village in the south of Mexico, that didn't accept the "state" time, let alone daylight saving time.
They say, 12 o' clock or noon is when the sun is at its highest point.
Imagine dealing with something like that with the iQue...

[bilofsky]

Actually that would be the easy case. Just a little program to figure the time of the sun's zenith.

Or the other way to do that with the iQue would be to find some soft sand, stand the iQue upright and pointing south, and when its shadow is exactly in line with its body, then it's noon.

[Chrisq]

and than an RMA, because you have grains of sand in the connector at the bottom of iQue.:D