Wireless For The Garmin...

[cybrwarior]

GREAT NEWS...

I just received this email from Enfora...

John

I actually use the Garmin myself. Until a week ago I would have had to say no. But if you down load Gamins new firmware 5.2.1r3 (Release 3) it works great. I have been using it all week and no issues. If you have any further questions feel free to contact me.

Michael

I am ordering mine today and will post to let you all know how it works...

[Curious Cat]

How about a link so we can follow what you are talking about?

[cybrwarior]

Sorry.....here is the link...I have sent an email back to Michael asking him to confirm the exact model he is using and will post that here for the rest of the Garminites....

https://enfora.com/shop/detail.aspx?ID=1

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by cybrwarior
Sorry.....here is the link...I have sent an email back to Michael asking him to confirm the exact model he is using and will post that here for the rest of the Garminites....

https://enfora.com/shop/detail.aspx?ID=1

Thanks! Let is know how it works, looks very interesting.

[cybrwarior]

Received email back confirming the model..

Model # WLN-0102

Do realize when closing the case it is a tight fit, but it works well.

Michael

[JMckie]

This is really exciting news. This workaround addresses two of my top wishes for the iQue: wireless capability and battery life. Finally a reason to upgrade to R3.

From the spec sheet:
Internal LiPolymer Battery
Rechargable 620mAH
Typical Usage (24 hours)

24 hours? (skeptical look) What does this really mean in practice? Please let us know your findings!

[rjack22]

Okay, I will admit that I am a little ignorant in this area. I know that WI-FI is a wireless network. But that is about it.

How does this work? Do you have to be in a specific place that offers WI-FI? Like a airport, or college campus that have it? Is it free to use? Or do you have to subscribe to something in order to use it? Do you need special software?

Please give me a basic understanding of what this is and how I could use it.

[JMckie]

Well I did some digging and learned a couple of things. Apparently:

The Enfora battery won't charge the iQue (it will charge only when plugged in)

Tungsten users have had trouble with the small size of the case inadvertently pushing buttons

These forums are quite old though and I am not sure that these things haven't been addressed since.

brighthand topic (http://tinyurl.com/3gj88)

another topic (http://tinyurl.com/29ub2)

[ssaibal]

cybrwarior,

This sounds very appealing. I have a ultra-light Thinkpad (3.4lbs) with wifi, but I wouldn't take it on personal travel or camping trips. Nowadays with the wifi hotspots cropping up, it will be great to have the facility to connect onto internet while on the move.

My question is:

What other s/w we need to buy to get a browser on iQue ?

This will help me plan what additional $$ I have to blow on this toy (I have done US$ 1200 already) :)

Appreciate info on this......

[Curious Cat]

Is there a database or map out there somewhere that keeps track of hotspots and updates it?

[nparker13]

This is awesome!! I cant wait to find out how it works...PLEASE keep us updated!!

-nate

[NC-Bill]

I use this WiFi locator http://www.jiwire.com/.
Works well for my needs.

[eric777]

Jwire is also avaible as a channel on Avantgo.

[cybrwarior]

Regarding additional software needed to get it to work, I have sent another email to the great people at Enfora and am awaiting a response. I do know that the product does come with software, including a web browser, I just dont know for sure if we have to register it and what that may cost or what browser they are using . I will keep you posted as soon as I receive word from Enfora on the software they used ...

BTW...I have ordered mine and should be in my hands in the next few days and I will be sure to let you all know how it works..

[cybrwarior]

I use this site for the location of FREE hotspots....

http://www.wififreespot.com/

[ssaibal]

Thanks, NC-Bill. The jiwire site is awesome.

[mbvt]

Great news! Thanks for letting us know!

[ssaibal]

mobileplanet is now indicating shipping date of 3/24/04. Some of us would remember the delays from Garmin for the shipping of iQue.;)

[cybrwarior]

Well I received my Wi-Fi wallet from Enfora and in my initial testing it is working flawlessly with the included browser. I am going to continue to put it through it's paces and I will update this thread with my findings...

[funbob]

A popular local coffee chain has installed free hotspots at all its locations and the city has started installing free hotspots downtown, at the airport and in other high traffic areas so I'm dying to get one of these but I think I'll wait until the first reports start trickling back but it looks good. Some things I want to know is how big/heavy is the case? Will it still fit in a pocket? What's the practical real world battery life? And what is the practical range?

[JMckie]

Originally posted by cybrwarior
Well I received my Wi-Fi wallet from Enfora and in my initial testing it is working flawlessly with the included browser. I am going to continue to put it through it's paces and I will update this thread with my findings...

Great!

Please let us know your thoughts on:
the tightness fit of the iQue in the wallet
battery life
speed of establishing a connection
ease of establishing a connection

[ssaibal]

Just now ordered mine on enfora website.....debated hard whether I should order 2nd day air and then finally settled for UPS ground....the wait has just begun! :(

[cybrwarior]

Well let me see if i can address some of the questions posted :

The size of the wallet is 6"highx3.5"widex2"thick, and weight of the wallet is 9oz. I was able to fit it in the back pocket of my jeans but it was a tight fit and difficult to get out.

The battery life is rated for 24 hours but i will have to collect data on that to verify it.

As far as range, at home I had no problem connecting within a 75' radius of my wireless router and at the local coffe house I was able to connect just fine. I will do some further more accurate testing soon and report back.

As far as the tight fit, It diddnt seem that tight to me, the iQue had a snug fit and I was able to close the case very easily..

Well that is it for now, I will keep posting more information as I acquire it...

[ssaibal]

I am so glad to see the positive test results from cybrwarior. phew!

[jonasolof]

How come none of you guys were interested in the Guyver sled which I reported back in december works with wifi cards?

[Error94]

Jonas,

Don't take it so personally! :)

I wasn't too excited about the sled vs. the wallet for several reasons:

1) The sled requires two pieces, the sled and the WiFi card. This is a one-piece solution.
2) This incorporates a solution for protecting the iQue. It would probably be difficult to find a case that would fit the iQue with the sled attached.
3) To me, the sled seems like a "clunkier" solution than the wallet. I don't think the iQue would be as easy to hold and work with in the sled as in the wallet.
4) Prices I've seen for the sled for a suggested price of $170 USD (don't know what the real price is, can't even order online from the distributor right now), and that is without the cost of the WiFi card. The wallet looks like an overall less expensive solution.

Overall the sled is more versatile, but for someone who only wants WiFi, the wallet seems like a better solution.

Just my two cents.

[nparker13]

Which browser comes with the enfora? Is it hires+?

-nate

PS. these hotspots, the ones at public places, do you have to log onto them, or do you just pick up an internet connection. THat brings the question of: is it subscription based?

[mbvt]

Originally posted by nparker13
PS. these hotspots, the ones at public places, do you have to log onto them, or do you just pick up an internet connection. That brings the question of: is it subscription based?
That depends, some of them are free. All you need to do is sit down and let the WiFi device discover the network. Usually the configuration of the network is (DNS, internet gateway, etc.) is arranged automatically.

I haven´t tried non-free WiFi APs yet, but most of them are charged ~ €15 per hour overhere and require you to buy access up-front. I guess they release your MAC address or give you a temporary login.

grM

[Wallace Matsen]

i bought the enfora for my t/3 ...never thought of plugging in the ique

the enfora does every thing a wifi/ should do and it is neat to be doing ...web browsing and email

the reason i returned it is that ii is too heavy and the T/3 was too tight and kept coming on when it was closed and you could not hookup a key board when it was in the case

otherwise it works and works well

wally

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by jonasolof
How come none of you guys were interested in the Guyver sled which I reported back in december works with wifi cards?

I think it’s a Swedish thing. Most people assumed they would need a pack of dogs to use the “sled”. :D

[OWG]

cybrwarior,

One question if you don't mind. I've heard that you need to put velcro on the back of the PDA to keep it in the enfora case. Is that true?

TIA

OWG

[Wallace Matsen]

yes you do use velcro ...two round ones that they supply

[alriclam]

Where did you get it, and I'm guessing its the model that is out (I see mobileplanet has three models, only one of which is out right now?)

Thanks for posting your findings, I've been following the threads about the Enfora for a while, and I'm glad to finally see some progress!

[brettd4]

I sort of like the sled idea. My ique spends most the day routing me around from place to place. Can you open the antenna for the gps while in the enfora case? I don’t have either of these products you all are talking about. But I am interested!

Brett

[ssaibal]

Model # WLN-0102

This info is there right in the first page of this thread.

[alriclam]

You're right, I totally forgot what I read this morning. Thanks

[ssaibal]

;) This forum can get addictive......I see that you are in east coast.

[alriclam]

Yeah, 1:40AM and I'm still reading through posts. Can't remember one percent of what I read, it feels like. Add this forum to 3 others, and I'm starting to wonder if I have one of those new internet addiction diseases you hear all of those psycho analysts babbling about on the tv. :) But as a college student, I haven't learned a thing about moderation yet. I'll save that for the real world. :D

[jonasolof]

Originally posted by Error94
Jonas,

Don't take it so personally! :)

I wasn't too excited about the sled vs. the wallet for several reasons:

1) The sled requires two pieces, the sled and the WiFi card. This is a one-piece solution.
2) This incorporates a solution for protecting the iQue. It would probably be difficult to find a case that would fit the iQue with the sled attached.
3) To me, the sled seems like a "clunkier" solution than the wallet. I don't think the iQue would be as easy to hold and work with in the sled as in the wallet.
4) Prices I've seen for the sled for a suggested price of $170 USD (don't know what the real price is, can't even order online from the distributor right now), and that is without the cost of the WiFi card. The wallet looks like an overall less expensive solution.

Overall the sled is more versatile, but for someone who only wants WiFi, the wallet seems like a better solution.

Just my two cents.

Good points. I didn't bother to get the sled either. I didn't take it personally at all, I was just interested in why people didn't care about the sled solution, although they expressed great interest in having wifi with their iQue.

My main objection with the sled was that users can't update new drivers. Thus you'r stuck with what they loaded onto it. Built in obsolence.

BTW, at CeBit I saw I guy that had had got a little free gadget from wifi society (?). It was a red LED that blinked when there was wifi in the air. Looked for it but couldn't find the stand.

[alriclam]

You can get something like that from Kensington, called the Wifi Finder. They have them at Best Buy (at least the last time I was there....)

[Wallace Matsen]

i got the enfora from PalmOne store ...same price as others but better return policy

hey are you in Dartmouth ...i am a retired ct yankee here in the south ...asheville ...the san fran of the south ...no bay:)

[alriclam]

Yep, I'm at Dartmouth, was undergrad now grad student/working for the college. Its great you actually know the place, some people, when I tell them I live in Hanover, NH, they don't even realize NH is a state! :)

[mtnmunch]

Has anyone taken a photo of their iQue in the Enfora case? If not can someone please take one.

I go to Starbucks every week to meet up with some friends who I met through another forum. Too many forums. lol. It would be nice to be able to use AIM, check my email and the internet while I am there.

[ssaibal]

I put in my order yesterday morning (noon time in Texas) and it left the same day by UPS. Great response time from Enfora. I am supposed to get it on Tuesday next (3/30)!!!:p

[tomac14]

Hi Michael:

Have you received your new Enfora yet and if so how does it work.

thanks

tomac14



Originally posted by cybrwarior
GREAT NEWS...

I just received this email from Enfora...

John

I actually use the Garmin myself. Until a week ago I would have had to say no. But if you down load Gamins new firmware 5.2.1r3 (Release 3) it works great. I have been using it all week and no issues. If you have any further questions feel free to contact me.

Michael

I am ordering mine today and will post to let you all know how it works...

[tomac14]

Hi Michael:

Have you received your new Enfora yet and if so how does it work.

thanks

tomac14



Originally posted by cybrwarior
GREAT NEWS...

I just received this email from Enfora...

John

I actually use the Garmin myself. Until a week ago I would have had to say no. But if you down load Gamins new firmware 5.2.1r3 (Release 3) it works great. I have been using it all week and no issues. If you have any further questions feel free to contact me.

Michael

I am ordering mine today and will post to let you all know how it works...

[ssaibal]

cybrwarior,

any further test updates from your Enfora ?

[cybrwarior]

SSAIBAL,

My enfora is working great, I used it all weekend, at the airport to pull up flight information and at the local coffee shop to get my email and have not had a problem yet. I am very happy with the product. I have not had time to run any benchmark tests on the unit yet and I will try and get some pictures posted as requested in a prior thread. I see you ordered yours, you will not be disappointed...

The only thing I wish i could find is a web browser that would allow you to rotate the screen...but i am still looking..

[ssaibal]

Thanks cybrwarior. Once you are able to post on this forum effectively from Enfora, I will know that we have arrived.:D

[eric777]

I for one will be very interested in your pioneering with Enfora!

If we can't have SDIO - there's Enfora!

Hope you can try other things such as Synching to you wireless laptop or desktop as well!

Good luck! Keep us posted. Please!

[ssaibal]

My wife called up to say that UPS delivered the Enfora to our home this afternoon. I am at work now and am eager to get home tonight to explore the new toy. If things go smoothly, I will be soon posting the good results tonight. Else, I will be posting requests for help. Either way, I will be putting a lot of verbage into this forum.;)

If things go well, I will post into this thread using iQue+enfora from my home wifi. woohoooo!!!

[ssaibal]

I am lying on my bed with the Enfora 802b wifi portfolio connecting my iQue-3600 to my home wifi network.

I was disappointed with the connector on the enfora as I am finding it very difficult to bond with iQue.

The character based Eudora web browser that came with enfora is primitive. So, I downloaded trial version of WebToGo. This provides graphical interface, but the VG area is not minimised.

I hope this long msg gets posted.

[jonasolof]

Would it be possible to have a close up photo of the Enfora connector?

PM received

[ssaibal]

I am attaching the photo here. It looks very much like the one on the Garmin cradle and auto nav kit. I tried adjusting the screws that mount the connector to the portfolio, but didn't help. Will try it again tomorrow. It is past midnight here in the SF bay area.:)

[ssaibal]

The connector is mounted on the portfolio and then there is a piece of velcro type material which doesn't allow the iQue to sit deep.

I tried a simple experiment of putting a piece of paper like a business card against the Garmin cradle and then tried to slide the iQue into the Garmin cradle. It goes in, but doesn't lock. That is precisely the problem with the enfora portfolio. Maybe the Palm devices are not so thick and they maybe able to sit properly. My iQue doesn't. I have to try and few times before it makes the contact. And since I use my iQue in my car for navigation, I cannot keep it permanently in the portfolio......and another reason why you cannot keep it permanently there is that the portfolio's battery doesn't seem to charge the iQue.

I wonder what cybrwarior's view is on this......

To make this a serious toy for iQue, Enfora must:
1. design a model for iQue
2. bundle a web browser that works full screen for iQue
3. power up the iQue with the lithium battery

[JMckie]

ssaibal, thanks for the valuable feedback!

[eric777]

Originally posted by ssaibal
The connector is mounted on the portfolio and then there is a piece of velcro type material which doesn't allow the iQue to sit deep.

I tried a simple experiment of putting a piece of paper like a business card against the Garmin cradle and then tried to slide the iQue into the Garmin cradle. It goes in, but doesn't lock. That is precisely the problem with the enfora portfolio. Maybe the Palm devices are not so thick and they maybe able to sit properly. My iQue doesn't. I have to try and few times before it makes the contact. And since I use my iQue in my car for navigation, I cannot keep it permanently in the portfolio......and another reason why you cannot keep it permanently there is that the portfolio's battery doesn't seem to charge the iQue.

I wonder what cybrwarior's view is on this......

To make this a serious toy for iQue, Enfora must:
1. design a model for iQue
2. bundle a web browser that works full screen for iQue
3. power up the iQue with the lithium battery

Thanks for the "mini review".
My conclusion is that I'll wait 'till 1-3 are satisfied.

Too bad - it would have been nice...

[ssaibal]

I generally tend to be more critical from a product design point of view and so don't take my comments alone. Before me cybrwarior has been checking this out and I would love to see his comments on the issues raised by me.

Jonas has sent me a patch and asked me to use CodeDiver which will help me to use it full screen. I will try that later today.

[cybrwarior]

Hello SSAIBAL,

Sorry I have been pretty busy so I havent been watching the fourm...I see you got your Enfora...I too experienced the same problem you encountered but mine did not seem as drastic as you explain, it was just a nuisance...but to get around it, I applied two plastic spacers where the connector and the wallet meet to lift the connector from the wallet just a bit and that seemd to help the issue. In regards to the browser, I agree with you and I am also using WebToGo. As far as powering the que with the lithium battery, I did not consider that a factor in my decision to purchase the product because it was not a feature that was outlined in the specs of the Enfora, but now that you mention it I will add that to my notes.


I am keeping notes on issues i am encountering and will foreward those to my contact at Enfora to be addressed in the future.

Overall, what is your feeling of the product..?

PS...I am updating this thread while drinking my latte at the local coffee shop... :)

[JK110]

cybrwarior:

very cool to be using your iQue in the coffee shop - could you post a pic of your connector with the spacers so we can compare it to the pic that ssaibal posted...

to the both of you... are your portfolios with the denim outside or the leather - it appears that the leather is listed in the pdf, but one can only order the denim from their website, also although it is not charging the iQue, what is your battery life looking like with the portfolio...

thanks for the info:)

[jonasolof]

I'd be interested in the name written under the connector, and if possible get to know who makes it.


Besides, it should be possible to connect external power to the iQue (+ pin 16, - pin 1) by going inside the connector housing (I see two screws).

I suppose there is a power jack to feed the enfora wallet. 5 V?

[Rockbeast]

Originally posted by cybrwarior
Hello SSAIBAL,

...PS...I am updating this thread while drinking my latte at the local coffee shop... :) Is it a soy or a milk latte?

Seriously, very cool...someday...someday I might be doing that! Oh, and mine would be milk...;)

[cybrwarior]

JK110 - My Enfora protfolio is leather...as far as battery life, for the last 2 days I was connected to the internet for approximately 3 hours on and off throughout the day and the enfora did not show any signs of degredation of signal reception which may indicate a low battery, but i did not take any measurements to confirm just how much battery loss there actually was. Once I get through the busy stage of the Movie production I will be able to do a more indepth study for all of your benefit.

Jonasolof - I will try and get the name for you on the connector and I will also try and post some pictures of my connector modification. You are correct, the Que should be able to feed from the lithium battery, I will pass along the question to Enfora as to why this was not an option, but the wallet does have a pass thru charge option that charges the Que while you charge the wallet which is really nice.

Rock Beast - It is Milk, straight from the cow...:)

[ssaibal]

I sat in the parking lot of the Alviso city library which has a free wifi hotspot. Enfora detected it as a Netgear network. And then when I activated WebPro, it gave me a "memory error". I see the same problem at my office as well. My spare base memory is running low.....I will clean it up and try again.

WebPro was wonderful. Very fast and IE type feel and if I can have the connector issue resolved, I will be keeping this. About the charging, as cybrwarior pointed out, the external charger charges the iQue while charging the enfora battery. For me, that is enough. Only connector issue........

Jonas, I need to get back home to open the connector. I will post the name when I do so. It requires a tiny allen key to open the screws which I don't have at work.

[ssaibal]

Pdastreet forum on the screen using WebPro on Enfora.

[ssaibal]

quick view of the geocache on the road.....

[nparker13]

Sounds like a great product, minus the connector issues, but i have a quick question...does the enfora's battery charge the ique while in use/or not?

-nate

PS hows the enfora's battery life?

[ssaibal]

The Enfora battery doesn't charge the iQue. When connected to the AC charger, the unit has a pass-thru power path to iQue for charging the iQue. As per cybrwarior, the Enfora battery (which is used only by the wifi device) lasts a long time. No confirmed data on number of hours as yet.

cybrwarior seems to have resolved the connector issue. I am waiting for him to post the photos to see how he has done that.

I tried surfing from the public library parking lot during my lunch hour. It worked great.

I want to now check if I can play a video clip or listen to a audio track (though I still don't know why I would think that to be important)......but for the sake of experimentation.

[nparker13]

that sounds awesome...ordering one the 13th of april...by birthday :) . Do you need log-in or special permisson, when at library? starbucks? public wifi hotspots?

-nate

[ssaibal]

I found the listing of the Alviso Public Library as a "free" hotspot from the List of wifi hotspots (http://www.jiwire.com) website. 1/4 mile from my workplace. Parked my car outside and did the surfing while in my car. No login required. Just let Enfora's scan to locate the network and you are ON. Pretty sneaky, huh!:D

At starbucks and others, it should work the way it does in other paid places. The only other paid wifi spot I have used is Singapore Airport, where the browser on my laptop goes directly to the payment site. You pay using your credit card and then you are on. In Toronto airport's Air Canada's frequent flyer lounge, it just asks you to register (no payment). I love wifi hotspots. Looking forward to flying on Lufthansa flights soon and use the same facility (at a cost ofcourse).

[JR1]

Ok so where do you one of these and how much do they cost?

[ssaibal]

Ok so where do you one of these and how much do they cost?

The info is available on the 1st page of this thread. I paid about US$190 including ground shipping and taxes for the denim version.

[ssaibal]

I pushed the two metal clips in the enfora connector upwards a bit. Now when the iQue is slid in, these pins lock into iQue. Only hope that the pins retain its tensile property.

Also, I didn't need to use the velcro stuff to hold the iQue in place.

Jonas, there are no manufacturer name printed on the connector and you can look below as it is riveted and soldered on the PCB below.

[ssaibal]

I noticed that when I force the VG to minimise using the CodeDiver setup, I get this problem in WebPro3 which requires soft reset for recovery. To replicate this problem, you need to go to a site where there is a login process. To enter the user id and password, you have to bring up the VG and immediately this fault occurs.

If I set the VG silk to OFF in CodeDiver, then WebPro3 is NOT full screen and this situation everything is fine. I am using the modified WebPro3 and CodeDiver 1.1beta6.

[Dave'sNotHere]

Time for me to jump into this great thread since I just received my Enfora device yesterday. Unfortunately, although the device generally functions, I seem to be having more problems than the others:

1. The physical connection is loose and easily lost. While I haven't yet tried the spacers or adjusting the clips, I noticed that there is a serious problem using the velcro disk if you have an auto-nav kit. The cradle in the auto-nav kit goes all the way up to the antenna and so the disk can't be attached below the antenna. I suspect it would not be a good idea to attach it to the antenna since it would be stressed whenever the iQue is removed from the Enfora. Suggestions?

2. I was unable to get WebToGo working. It does not seem to use the standard connection manager and only allowed me to select cell phones to connect. I have been trying the free "lite" version only. For those of you that have gotten it working, are you using the lite or pro version?

3. Palm Web Pro 3.0.1a runs and connects but almost always freezes up in the middle of loading a page. I was able to run it fine when I connected via my cell phone, although I did have some problems with scrolling.

4. The Eudora browser works OK but it is very limiting being text only.

Aside from that, the unit seems to work fine and I'm hoping to get past these problems and start using it.

BTW, I'm also using it with my Palm m505. I have the same software problems, but the hardware fits and works fine.

Thanks!

--Dave

[jonasolof]

Without having seen the device in real life, I wonder why they use velcro. Why not make a plate with two protrusions with hooks that fit into the back of the iQue, same way as the auto nav cradle and for that matter the Guyver sled is done. Then apply downward pressure trowards the UC with some kind of rubber band over the top of the iQue. That might need making two holes in your Enfora wallets but that shouldn't be so bad.

[OWG]

Things that make you go hmmmmm....

[LeoG]

I have read thru this thread, ordered an Enfora - but I am still mystified on which browser to use ! ?

I understand that the browser which comes with Enfora works fine but is text only. After that I am lost. Very confusing discussion on several graphical web browsers which either don't work full screen or crash or both.

Can someone give a simple minded person like me a simple answer: Is there a graphical web browser which works full screen and does not crash ?

[nparker13]

Yes, Palm web pro DOES work and is stable with graphical browsing, but DOESNOT work full screen without any hacks such as code diver (which is a program that forces the program to minimize the graffiti area)

-nate

[Dave'sNotHere]

I hate to throw a wet blanket on this hot topic, but I want to make you guys aware of an issue with the Enfora Wireless Portfolio.

I confirmed with Enfora that the velcro disk will not work if you have the Garmin auto-nav kit since there is no place to attach it to the iQue without interferring with the car cradle. Even though I've played around with the connector per a suggestion from Saibal, I have not been able to get it solid enough to reliably hold it in place without the velcro. Enfora tech support suggested that I return the unit since they acknowledged it would not work properly without the velcro. Before I do that, I'm going to experiment with other ways to hold the unit in place.

--Dave

[JK110]

Just heard from enfora - I was asking them if they still had the leather case rather than the denim (they don't), but they did mention the following:

"We are in the process of releasing a new case in the early summer that will have a leather spine and a very nice pvc mesh. This would be very similar to the type of case you would find from Franklin Covey."

Perhaps it will address the problem with fit if they are made aware of it...

[ssaibal]

I am keeping the Enfora. While sitting at a table, bench or a car, I am able to keep the Enfora horizontal or at an angle and so the iQue stays connected. However, if I want to lie down on my back keeping the gadget face down, then the iQue will fall off. I would love to do that as well....but that is for another day.

[JMckie]

Torontonians out there, there seems to be a dearth of access points in Hogtown. Can you share any favourite spots?

[ssaibal]

Jiwire's List (www.jiwire.com) lists 107 hotspots for Toronto, ON.

[Cobrastrike]

GeoUrl (http://geourl.org/near/index.html?p=http%3A%2F%2Fwirelessbandit.nerdsunde rglass.com%2Farchives%2F000106.html&lat=&lon=&dist=50&in=http://wirelessbandit.nerdsunderglass.com) has a listing of hot spots by distance from Union Station that extends across the GTA.

WiFi Hot Spot List (http://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/browse/ca/2000256/) has a fairly large collections of hot spots in several cities in Ontario.

[g0tr00t]

Will the iQue + Powertogo fit into one of these cases?

Any udpates as to how teh Enfora can charge the iQue?

TIA :D