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TerenceT
04-01-2004, 08:40 PM
got a speeding ticket last weekend. It got me thinking, what if there's a program that log say the last 3 mins of your travelling speed? the copper said i was doing 55 at 35 zone and he clocked me with is radar. I know, I've been putting off in getting a radar detector, stupid me.

BUT, if there's such program, at least i can verified, not argue whether he's BSing. I was on a local downtown street, i got off the freeway, made a left turn. Cop's 2 blocks away hiding at the corner, and i didn't see him until the last half block. I am speeding but i really doubt that i was doing 50+

so, any help out there?

Thanks
tt

jh26
04-01-2004, 10:02 PM
If you had the track log turned on, then go get the conduit and download the track log into Mapsource. It will have your speed, location, and time you where there for a whole lot longer than the last three minutes.

rwsmith123
04-01-2004, 10:11 PM
Were you using your iQue at the time? If so download the track conduit and the mapsource program. After installing them, do a hotsync, then startup mapsource. Now load the track log, it will be in the tracks folder under your hotsync name in the palm folder. Find the active log entry for the time you got your ticket, then find the segment that corresponds to the place where you got caught. Now look to see how fast you were going.

jh beat me to the answer. So I wonder if you took a laptop with mapsource and the tracklog to prove you weren't speeding, could they look at other log points and ticket you for a place where you were speeding? :eek:

apersson850
04-02-2004, 12:48 AM
Since the track file can be editead easily, at least I wouldn't take any regard, if I was that policeman.
Now, the average policeman may not know about that, but before they take any such input as valid, I would assume they'll find out by asking somebody who knows. Like Garmin.

TerenceT
04-02-2004, 01:48 AM
how valid are the data in the court of law?

Peztone
04-02-2004, 04:41 AM
As Anders said, it's a text file so it can be easily editied, so they will discount it.

The only chance you've got is if the track log shows you wern't speeding it will give you the confidence to ask to see the radar gun printout and find out when that gun was last calibrated if you wern't speeding. But even a calibration error wouldn't add 20mph would it? :)

-S.

jonasolof
04-02-2004, 04:50 AM
The printed tracklog could be edited. But not the log kept in the GPS. So the police could take your GPS and check the internal log. Would you want that?

WMeda
04-02-2004, 07:56 AM
Where can one get the track conduit software and a lesson on how to use it.

I've seen a lot of threads on this board about using tracks but I don't really fell that the manual provides a whole lot of useful information in this area.

Thanks.

waltisimo
04-02-2004, 09:40 AM
About the internal track log not being editable, that's not completely true. Most GPS's will allow you to download the track, edit it, and then upload it back into the GPS. I guess the iQue doesn't have software to upload it yet though, so maybe it would work after all.

I've always wished to be able to view the full track information point by point right on the iQue like you can in Mapsource. Someone should write a program that runs right on the iQue and shows the speeds from the most recent part of the track. That way when you get pulled over you could run that and know right away if you want to fight the ticket or just smile and say "Thank you sir!"

TerenceT
04-02-2004, 02:42 PM
As i said before, i just wanted to verify. I bend over and took the ticket with a smile already.

But knowing the track log is editable, it'll be useless in court for sure.

Thanks tho.

Holgado
04-02-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by WMeda
Where can one get the track conduit software and a lesson on how to use it.

I've seen a lot of threads on this board about using tracks but I don't really fell that the manual provides a whole lot of useful information in this area.

Thanks.

Saved tracks are automaticaly downloaded with next Hotsync and stored on a file on your PC, so if you want to conserve those tracks, you must change the file name for on next Hotsync they will be cleared and substituted be the new track.
Then, with MapSource you can work those tracks, shown on maps, there profile and so on.

doodah
04-03-2004, 07:31 AM
I think what he really needed was the ability to play back his current track log on the iQue while he had the officer standing next to his car. Delorme had a feature like that where you could play back an entire trip at adjustable speeds. The officer is more likely to believe what he's looking at if he can see the actual tracking through the area he clocked you in before you've had an opportunity to edit it.

BTW: If someone gets a wild hair to write such an application, please give me the option to easily alter the playback by about 10 MPH.;)

Moose Man
04-03-2004, 09:53 AM
This is the reason that I own a Valentine One Radar Detector. It has saved me in situations like this......3 times yesterday. I was alerted to the presence of the CHP's radar and slowed when others around me didn't.

Doesn't do much though if the CHP is using the "plane, the plane, the plane boss" as tattoo used to say.

CaptainSpalding
04-03-2004, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by TerenceT
how valid are the data in the court of law?

E-mail messages are routinely used as evidence in the courtroom. They are every bit as editable as a track log, and their credibility seems to hold up. So why not the track log?

nparker13
04-03-2004, 09:23 PM
That would be a neat program...what would be even cooler would be an sd/bluetooth (future) radar detector that could function as a radar detector, but also show police estimated position, and start logging speed when detected...hmmm....just imagine :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

-nate

PS the :rolleyes: face looks more like a just think than a roll eyes

JMckie
04-03-2004, 09:30 PM
A couple of ways to write this program:

Write an app that directly query queTracks database and display the data on the form. If someone can reverse engineer the track db then this is the easiest option.

Have an app that runs in the background (like Speed) keeping a track log of its own. The log can be set to wrap of course. Come to think of it, the writer of "Speed" should just make this into a feature. No need for a separate utility.