iQue 3200????

[Deuterium]

Garmin has an iQue 3200 on its website on the lower right on Garmin News Flash. The link is dead right now. Hmmmm....

[jkoslacz]

I guess it's the stripped-down 3600 we've heard rumors about for some time.

Jan

[apersson850]

Yes, it seems like they are preparing to announce the long talked about complement to our iQue, a lower cost unit, without some of the features of the 3600.
But usually they do it the other way around, i.e. first publish the page, then the link to it.

[tonglaji]

Well, the link is removed now. It was there a few minutes ago.

[bigtuffguy]

it better not have bluetooth or SDIO cards. :@

its good to have another unit out there.

[Deuterium]

Originally posted by bigtuffguy
it better not have bluetooth or SDIO cards. :@

its good to have another unit out there.

OHHHHHHH!!! Don't even start that rumor!!

[jerrmorn]

Amazon has it listed:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00026VT7K/earthtodaycom-20/104-8814236-8099945

Interesting?!?!

[microbe]

The link on Garmin page is gone, but Amazon has it for sale:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00026VT7K/earthtodaycom-20/102-2495575-5040948

The enlarged photo does show the microphone hole near the power botton missing, as is the headphone jack on top.

So the rumors about iQue 3600 - MP3 & audio recording were right.

[funbob]

I don't see how this is going to be a winner for Garmin. It's not that much less expensive than the 3600 and with just about every new PDA being released featuring voice recording and MP3 playback capabilities why would someone want to buy a PDA (especially at this price point) that lacks such feaures?

I'm just going to guess here and say that the unit would still be capable of playing MP3's with the proper 3rd party software but it would be pretty pointless because of the lack of a headphone jack. I mean really, how much money is Garmin saving by leaving out the headphone jack?

[Bokkie]

If Garmin had put as much effort into adding features to the iQue as they did removing them, it would be a better instrument.

So they've taken away the microphone and the speaker jack, have they? Nice to know they are moving in the right direction.:rolleyes:

So they took a perfectly good 3600 and funbobbed it!

[Robertp366]

According to the specs at Amazon, there is no internal speaker, either. Since voice guidance is still there, it must REQUIRE the auto mount/speaker unit. If they would just put in a swapable battery pack instead of this fussing......

So for a $150 cut, you loose recording, mp3, voice (without special auto adapter).

Robert

[ukcobra]

Lets not forget that if features are removed that are not used that much (Consumer feedback focus groups ?) then savings can be made by not paying licensing fees.

I am sure that the removal of the ability to play mp3's will result in the removal of the need to pay any licensing fees related to mp3 playback etc.

Personally, it's nice to have, but I don't use my iQue for mp3 playback, as the memory card is normally full with maps.

Mark

[cbjesseeNH]

Slim chance Realplayer will support the iQue 3600 now, I'm guessing. Oh well, I guess I'd better get an iPod.
BRET

[Bokkie]

Originally posted by cbjesseeNH
Oh well, I guess I'd better get an iPod.
BRET

Indeed yes! iPod's rock!

[terrier]

From Amazon:

"System
The Garmin iQue 3200 features the new Motorola DragonBall MXL ARM9 microprocessor, and boasts 32 MB DRAM. This handheld is powered by Palm OS 5.2, which offers the processing power to take on the most demanding mobile computing tasks, together with advanced multimedia and the wireless connectivity and security that enterprises require."


Wireless!



Terrier

[Bokkie]

Originally posted by terrier
From Amazon:

"...together with advanced multimedia and the wireless connectivity and security that enterprises require."...

This could be "wireless" as in infrared, or "...wireless connectivity and security..." as in it has none of either?:)

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by terrier
From Amazon:

"System
The Garmin iQue 3200 features the new Motorola DragonBall MXL ARM9 microprocessor, and boasts 32 MB DRAM. This handheld is powered by Palm OS 5.2, which offers the processing power to take on the most demanding mobile computing tasks, together with advanced multimedia and the wireless connectivity and security that enterprises require."


Wireless!



Terrier

It’s a bit misleading but I believe the wireless capabilities refer the the Palm OS not the Garmin 3200.

[LifeIsABeach]

Originally posted by Robertp366
So for a $150 cut, you loose recording, mp3, voice (without special auto adapter)

Actually, the price cut is not even that big. If you go to Amazon and put the iQue 3600 in your shopping cart it shows up as $486.44. They are selling the 3200 for $429.99, so your savings are less than $60. If that is the case it definitely does not seem worth it.

[gl18_rider]

All I can say is that had the 3200 been available when I bought the 3600, I would've saved the cash and bought it. I have no use for the voice recorder or MP3. But, I'm certainly not dumping my 3600 for it.

[tonglaji]

Amazon says it is 480x320. but the picture looks like 320x320. I hope they did not go backward on the screen.

[g0tr00t]

Who wants to bet that the battery life of this one is going to blow our 3600's away.

So they removed some features and crammed a bigger battery in there....(speculation only)

iQue3200
Width: 2.8 inches
Height: 5 inches
Depth: .8 inches
Weight: .33 pounds

iQue3600
Width: 2.8 inches
Height: 5 inches
Depth: .8 inches
Weight: .33 pounds

[microbe]

toglaji is right. The pictures on Amazon clearly show a 320x320 map screen and a dark graffiti area.

No MP3, no voice recording..., no big deal.

Smaller screen... wouldn't buy it for even half the price.

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by microbe
toglaji is right. The pictures on Amazon clearly show a 320x320 map screen and a dark graffiti area.

No MP3, no voice recording..., no big deal.

Smaller screen... wouldn't buy it for even half the price.

Don't believe everything you see. These preproduction models often used faked pictures. I'm not saying your conclusion is wrong but you never know. The specs say otherwise but it could include a non collapsible VG area.


edit: IMHO, I don't think it would save Garmin any money or trouble to use a different (non collapsible VG) same size screen.

[alexcue]

Originally posted by Curious Cat
Don't believe everything you see. These preproduction models often used faked pictures. I'm not saying your conclusion is wrong but you never know. The specs say otherwise but it could include a non collapsible VG area.


ya i noticed that screen also. It has the volume on the graffiti area in the picture. But like CC alluded to, the pre-production 3600 pictures had a funky screen also, with stuff that never made the production unit. So we may have to wait for the first reviews to come out.

[Curious Cat]

I know this has to be a mistake but according to the Technical Data page, there is no built in Address Book!

[tonglaji]

Originally posted by Curious Cat
IMHO, I don't think it would save Garmin any money or trouble to use a different (non collapsible VG) same size screen.

It might not save them any money, but it would increase the battery life, as well as differentiate it from the 3600.

[Yurs_Truly]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00026VT7K/ref=e_de_a_smtpd/002-1206300-6251257?v=glance&s=electronics&vi=tech-data

one thing i don't understand is why the total memory is only 288 max w/ SD while we are moving forward to 2GB SD and more in the future.. i wonder how much manufacting cost garmin will benefits by limiting the max memory??? a buck??

still doesn't make sense for me to buy this ique 3200, btw you can buy the ique 3600 for that same sale price at amazon or lower from another vendor!

[OWG]

Originally posted by alexcue
ya i noticed that screen also. It has the volume on the graffiti area in the picture. But like CC alluded to, the pre-production 3600 pictures had a funky screen also, with stuff that never made the production unit. So we may have to wait for the first reviews to come out.

But...the preproduction pictures of the 3600 with the map showing ALWAYS displayed the full screen capability. In these pictures it looks like just the Map portion is fudged on. I think it is a fixed graffiti area. Also, there is no collapse arrow.

Yech...

[microbe]

They even have the same mistakes:
Handwriting recognition: No
Built-in speaker: No
Address book: No

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by microbe
They even have the same mistakes:
Handwriting recognition: No
Built-in speaker: No
Address book: No


Good catch! Who knows what real, time will tell.

[bguy]

I personally think, if they are going to sell a stripped down model, the street price should be more like $2-300. At this point the 3600 is a mid range PDA, with a street price in the low 400s.

I think they need a higher end model, with some of the features everyone seems to want, such as wireless network, SDIO, more built in memory, and maybe a replaceable battery. I know I could live with a 2 hour battery life (while using all the features and backlight) if I could just swap in another battery.

Maybe they could make an adventure model. Same as the 3600, but ruggedized, or at least water resistant.

[rafgoor]

Originally posted by bguy
Maybe they could make an adventure model. Same as the 3600, but ruggedized, or at least water resistant.
Not exactly the same as the 3600, but this must be the intention of Garmin with the 'Quest' (see http://www.pdastreet.com/forums//showthread.php?s=&threadid=45437)

[OWG]

Originally posted by rafgoor
Not exactly the same as the 3600, but this must be the intention of Garmin with the 'Quest' (see http://www.pdastreet.com/forums//showthread.php?s=&threadid=45437)

Quest is nothing like the 3600....not a PDA.

[apersson850]

It seems that the only advantage the 3200 has over "our" units, is the SDIO ability.
Otherwise, it's equal or inferior.

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by apersson850
It seems that the only advantage the 3200 has over "our" units, is the SDIO ability.
Otherwise, it's equal or inferior.

Where did you see that it had that?

[alexcue]

Originally posted by apersson850
It seems that the only advantage the 3200 has over "our" units, is the SDIO ability.
Otherwise, it's equal or inferior.


oh, oh, did he just let the cat out of the bag? No offense CC

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by alexcue
oh, oh, did he just let the cat out of the bag? No offense CC

or it might have been a dog.....:)

[Bokkie]

Originally posted by Curious Cat
or it might have been a dog.....:)

or it might have been a bok.....:)

[jrose1g]

The technical data on Amazon are just copied from iQue 3600. They even have the same mistakes:
Handwriting recognition: No
and also from Amazon tech specs:
Stereo: Yes
Guess if you could get inside the thing you could hear something, but not mp3s, in stereo.

[silentspyguy]

why not mp3's in stereo???

[jrose1g]

why not mp3's in stereo???
According to rumor, fact, or whatever is our state of knowledge about the 3200 it doesn't have either mp3 playback ability or any external audio output. So, where is that stereo sound going?

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by jrose1g
According to rumor, fact, or whatever is our state of knowledge about the 3200 it doesn't have either mp3 playback ability or any external audio output. So, where is that stereo sound going?

It's a marketing trick; if you can't hear it, you can't prove it's not in stereo. :D

[mtnmunch]

If the iQue 3200 has SDIO, is sure as heck hope Garmin plans on incorporating that in a new version of the 3600.

If so, my iQue is doing a real fast hand off to someone as a gift, and I"ll be getting a new iQue

[apersson850]

Originally posted by Curious Cat
Where did you see that it had that? I read it on my computer screen.

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by apersson850
I read it on my computer screen.


It must get awfully cold during the Swedish winter with such thin skin....

[apersson850]

No problem, since my avatar has a catsuit, and that simply must be some kind of fur, I'm warm and cosy! :)
Sorry, CC, but I couldn't resist to teease you a little. I simply asked Garmin.

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by apersson850
No problem, since my avatar has a catsuit, and that simply must be some kind of fur, I'm warm and cosy! :)
Sorry, CC, but I couldn't resist to teease you a little. I simply asked Garmin.

So is it official that it will have SDIO?

[apersson850]

As far as one can see from Garmin's website, it's not even official that there will be any iQue 3200 at all.
So I think that what I've said now is as official as it will get, until it is announced. Officially.

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by apersson850
As far as one can see from Garmin's website, it's not even official that there will be any iQue 3200 at all.
So I think that what I've said now is as official as it will get, until it is announced. Officially.


Sounds like someone made it up, maybe the person at Garmin...:)

[Moose Man]

Originally posted by Curious Cat
Sounds like someone made it up, maybe the person at Garmin...:)

With SDIO - the 3200 would be a more formidable device then the 3600 provided that the PalmOS 5 Drivers would all work on the Que 3200 for an SDIO device.

But since PalmOne hasn't been totally forthcoming with updates for "other" devices then Palm so now Garmin would have to have two channels of development: one for SDIO and one without.....

I'll stick with my Treo regardless but it is an interesting twist.

[g0tr00t]

Just curious...what would you do with SDIO? Its kinda limiting to me without a built CF slot or more onboard memory. I wish they would have built in both SDIO and a CF slot.

[CinderK]

Sorry if there is some repetitious material or if I start rambling... Betty doesn't recalculate for me in that aspect.

(Disclaimer Note: Currently the 3200 has not been officially announced by Garmin. Apparently, there was a small iQue 3200 link on their site for a short time. Then, it got pulled. So there are no official sources of info right now. Amazon has a page up saying that they are selling it, but it looks like some of their details are not to be trusted. Basically, it's possible that all this could change whenever Garmin officially announces it and gives us all the details.)

Well, it looks like the 3200 will be pretty much a subset of the 3600. That is, of course, unless it does have SDIO as a feature. If so, then that will be one area where it surpasses its big brother.

From the current knowledge/theories/guesses, it seems that the 3200 will be missing built-in MP3 playback, voice recording, & a headphone jack. It also looks like it might have a square screen (probably 320x320) instead of the 3600's 480x320 screen.

Now, as I (and other people have) mentioned before, it looks like some of Amazon's details on their iQue 3200 page (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00026VT7K/earthtodaycom-20/102-5132977-0247363) are suspect or just plain wrong. Basically, it looks like they just copied a lot of the details from their iQue 3600 page (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000087BXU/ref=ase_earthtodaycom-20/102-5132977-0247363), and since many of us have the 3600, we know that some of these details are wrong.

Examples of wrong iQue 3600 details by Amazon

Memory (maximum): 288 MB (with 256 MB SD card)
This implies that the 3200/3600 can only use SD cards up to 256MB. We all know that the 3600 can use 512MB & 1GB SD cards. I think the same will hold true for the 3200.

Built-in speaker: No
We all know that the 3600 has a built-in speaker. From the pictures, it looks like the 3200 also has one, in the exact same spot.

Address book: No
Of course it has an address book. I believe that's been an integral part of the PalmOS since the beginning. I'm sure the 3200 will be the same.

Security: None
It's got the security that's built in to the PalmOS. Granted, this isn't really anything to brag about, but it's certainly more than "None". I'm sure the 3200 will be the same.

Serial: No
The 3600 can communicate via a serial cable/cradle. In fact, they mention RS-232 in the "Interfaces" bullet. I'm pretty sure the 3200 will be the same.

In short, I don't take all the details from Amazon as Gospel Truth.

Amazon says the 3200's screen is 480x320, but the screenshots make it look like it's 320x320. While some people may count this as a negative (due to less viewable space), others might find it to be a positive, since it would probably lead to better battery life. A smaller screen probably means less power needs to go to the screen and the backlight, and it's my experience that one of the largest battery drains on the 3600 is the backlight.

Assuming the list price on Amazon is to be trusted, the 3200 lists at $460, while the 3600 lists at $590. The difference is $130, which means that the 3200 lists for about 22% less than the 3600. Of course different places will sell them for different prices. From the start, you could get the 3600 for about $450 at certain places, so we can expect to see similarly lower prices on the 3200.

Are the missing features worth the price difference? I'm sure people will have different opinions. Some will say, "For all that I'm losing, they should have cut the price more." Others will look at it and say, "I don't really use/need those features, so it will be nice to have that $100+ to spend on something else."

The prices of $460 and $590 are certainly on the upper end of the price scale for Palms. To me, the price starts to not seem so bad when I consider what all I get. In addition to a good Palm, I get a good auto-routing GPS. (I'm sure there are better in both categories, but most all-in-one devices aren't the best in their fields.) Also, both these things are integrated into one device, which gives us some uniQue benefits. Additionally, we get the bundled maps, which separately sell for $140 (N Am City Select 6).

I remember that when the iQue 3600 came out, the Street Pilot III bundle was selling for about $1000. This package was similar to the iQue in that it had the device and a full mapping product. I think it had a couple of extras that the iQue doesn't come with (auto mount and data card). As far as the GPS software goes, I believe that the iQue is generally as good or better than the SP3. My point is that the SP3 was selling for $400 more and it was only a GPS, with no PDA side. All this, to me, says that the iQue's price isn't nearly so bad when you consider all that you get with it.

In the end, I'm sure some people will reject the 3200 for being too much of a compromise without a big enough price cut. I'm sure that others will see it as a viable option if they don't need the cut features. It will be interesting to see how well it does.

CinderK

[apersson850]

What do you think about a version in the other direction, i.e. more features, rather than less?
Could such a unit have a market, even if it's priced a bit higher than the iQue of today? Or would it just be to keep sales up, as a successor of the 3600, at about the same cost for the customer? Like most electronics, I mean.

[JMckie]

My reaction to a featured-crippled iQue even if it may have SDIO is one of stupendous (what's the opposite of excitement)

But maybe it will come with some software features like street-area avoidance, route to home, and the like. If so then it'll eventually make its way to the 3600.

[apersson850]

Should that be interpreted as a new unit, that actually is more advanced, would create excitement, then?

[Curious Cat]

The logical progression would be to have more advanced features for approximately the same price. IMO, this creates excitement. I'd be excited to see an iQue 4600 (or whatever) with WiFI, SDIO and a removable battery to say the least.

[Robertp366]

To JMckie: Enui

Robert

[placido]

From 3600 to 3200: a step backward ? Current trend in computer electronice is: New unit should have more feature at lower price. Not any old unit with less feature.

3200's price seems to scale with the number: 3200/3600 X price of Ique 3600.

[apersson850]

That's my opinion as well. If they want to complement the product range with a cheaper model, well, yawn.
But a top-of-the-line PDA, hopefully with some added GPS funtionality as well, that would be something to consider.

[reinbeau]

I'm in on the higher-end one, too. I have no desire to 'downgrade' and lose features, I want more :D

BWHAHAHAHAHA!

[rkevwill]

Moose: I agree with you. I will stick with my treo also.

More than likely, the only time I will switch from my 3600, is when they make a model with more processor, better battery, more internal memory, and make it wifi compatible. Surely that will come sometime down the road. I must admit, I do prefer surfing the web with the Ique, over the treo, solely because of the larger screen area. But....the treo is much nicer to carry around alone:)

[Moose Man]

Originally posted by rkevwill
Moose: I agree with you. I will stick with my treo also.

More than likely, the only time I will switch from my 3600, is when they make a model with more processor, better battery, more internal memory, and make it wifi compatible. Surely that will come sometime down the road. I must admit, I do prefer surfing the web with the Ique, over the treo, solely because of the larger screen area. But....the treo is much nicer to carry around alone:)

We all must really be bored to be discussing a model that surely, if it is "de-tuned" from the 3600, will not sell. The normal progression would be more power ala the proverbial request by Capt. Kirk of Scotty - why would Garmin even contemplate such a device. Their market research was way off base on this one.

Or will we be surprised?

[rwsmith123]

My opinion is that the 3200 will not have any features that the 3600 has (ie. SDIO), I think that was a mistake in the description, there are other obvious mistakes. The 3200 is no big deal for Garmin to make, they just take a few features off the 3600, easy to do, easy to manufacture and now they have a lower price model to get people interested, then they see the 3600 with more features and only a little bit more money, so they buy that one instead.

[Curious Cat]

I agree with Rich that it was probably easy to create and it fits one more niche. In addition, I believe the decisions of what to leave out were based upon what they had spent the most tech support hours on and/or RMA's.

[Moose Man]

Yes, but will it sell? Based upon this board, doubtful and most of us are in the know.

If the 3200 would have come out before the Que, I think sales might have been greater but to release a device that is backward thinking and still list for over $400......well the debate can go on infinitium.

I'm still not convinced by the pics at Amazon that it's 320 X 480, I don't see an icon to collapse the display and CC, I agree that preproduction unit pictures aren't the most accurate but that should only hold true with the original Que.

And the debate continues......film at 11 on August 1st?

[Curious Cat]

Moose I agree with you to a point, if Garmin tried to sell the iQue 3200, here at this forum, based on what we think we know about the product, there would be very few takers. OTOH, the first time buyers and a less sophisticated audience might say, I've got an MP3 player and I don't need some of the other features, lets pick the cheaper one. Ultimately it will depend upon finding the right price point which Garmin can adjust at will, within profit confines.

There are still way to many unknowns to say what it will be. It's even feasible that the Amazon listing is a test balloon to see how much interest they get. Garmin itself hasn't actually announced a 3200 and may never and it doesn't seem to be anywhere else, even in reviews. I'm betting they will release it and it will be dummied down and it will be marginally successful but I wouldn't want one.

[Moose Man]

The price point might have to be around $329 to get any movement, certainly not above 400.

Test balloon? maybe but doubtful. That picture at Amazon looks real enough but why wouldn't you show the full 480 resolution? I'll kill this in speculation but I'm not convinced that it is a 320 X 480 based upon that screen picture. Even with the early Que 3600's pics, it was plain as day to see the collapseable VG in the bottom icon bar......which is conspicously missing.

I'm not trying to invoke any arguement or debate other than pure speculation.....

But if this thing is real (I'm betting on it) then a $50 or so price differential at Amazon is not going to be enough to sell the device unless it's got a 400mhz processor etc.

My guess is that Amazon jumped the gun a little and didn't have accurate specs.

The bottom line is guess is getting used an awful lot in this thread.

OT - How do you like the DSL?

[Curious Cat]

The DSL with the WIFI is great, be even better if the iQue could use it.

[rkevwill]

As an aside, in response to wifi. Borders has had Tmobile wifi in this area for a while now. (Indy area) Starbucks JUST brought it to this area. Man, they are organized. They put it in most of their stores overnight. Anyway, an interesting side effect is, many of the competing coffeehouses seemed to have followed suit in just a few days. The difference? Its free there, instead of having to pay Tmobile prices.

I have found that my treo gives me all I need in this area. When I really need wifi is when I travel, and need to connect for business via my laptop, so hotels are my best bet there. (no way I am gonna work while in a coffehouse) Most of the major cities work for the treo just fine.

The newness of having wifi on a pda will probably wear off for the most part. I find I use the treo for surfing On wireless less and less around here. I usually end up playing blackjack on the treo instead ROFL.

[JMckie]

Originally posted by Robertp366
To JMckie: Enui

Robert

Robert, What does Enui mean?

Wifi on a pda certainly has a novelty aspect to it. After a few weeks, you won't use it as much. But by that time, it has metamorphosed from a novel and fun thing to do to an essential utility. Checking email, sports, stocks, weather, looking up product reviews and prices are no longer fun things but are things you would definitely miss once you get used to them.

[Moose Man]

Originally posted by rkevwill
As an aside, in response to wifi. Borders has had Tmobile wifi in this area for a while now. (Indy area) Starbucks JUST brought it to this area. Man, they are organized. They put it in most of their stores overnight. Anyway, an interesting side effect is, many of the competing coffeehouses seemed to have followed suit in just a few days. The difference? Its free there, instead of having to pay Tmobile prices.

I have found that my treo gives me all I need in this area. When I really need wifi is when I travel, and need to connect for business via my laptop, so hotels are my best bet there. (no way I am gonna work while in a coffehouse) Most of the major cities work for the treo just fine.

The newness of having wifi on a pda will probably wear off for the most part. I find I use the treo for surfing On wireless less and less around here. I usually end up playing blackjack on the treo instead ROFL.

Are you aware of this program. (http://www.junefabrics.com/palmnet/) Just in case your hotel doesn't have highspeed.

[rkevwill]

oh yeah. I'm aware of programs to use the phone as a modem. When the Hotels don't have High speed, I just use dialup. I have no need to use my laptop from a car or other place as a rule. (I use my treo then) Only time I need a laptop is when I am seriously working, and for that, I need a comfortable hotel with room service LOL.

[rkevwill]

Oh btw, I shoulda mentioned....My son works for a Networking company, mostly establishing Voip for businesses. Anyway, he uses PDAnet or a program like it, to connect his laptop wirelessly via a PocketPC in his work van. That way he accesses their servers to do remote configuring for clients he is setting up. They do all their work via a terminal window, so its quite usable over wireless, as long as there is a decent connection.

[Robertp366]

Originally posted by JMckie
My reaction to a featured-crippled iQue even if it may have SDIO is one of stupendous (what's the opposite of excitement).

Enui is a feeling of laconic fatalism - the opposite of excitement. Think of a Frenchman's normal attitude.

Robert

[Moose Man]

Bargain PDA (http://www.**********.com/default.asp?newsID=2151) is also discussing.

Here is a quote:

The description calls it 320 x 480, though the picture clearly indicates that it is not.

I noted this early on so no credit can go to Radio Bokkie if it turns out as truth. I'll give him all the credit if it turns out to be false though.

[Curious Cat]

There are 2 "n's" in ennui....


From one of Jonas's favorite authors:

Notes from the Underground by Dostoyevsky, Fyodor:

After four days of solitude, ennui, and consciousness of his impotence and insignificance- particularly acute by contrast with the sphere of power in which he had so lately moved- and after several marches with the marshal's baggage and the French army, which occupied the whole district, Balashev was brought to Vilna- now occupied by the French- through the very gate by which he had left it four days previously.

[Robertp366]

Thanks CC.

However, as a physicist and techno geek I claim lifetime exemption from english as a second language. Or blaim it on a cheap keyboard that can't get all the superfast keystrokes I lay on it.;)

:D

Robert

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by Robertp366
Thanks CC.

However, as a physicist and techno geek I claim lifetime exemption from english as a second language. Or blaim it on a cheap keyboard that can't get all the superfast keystrokes I lay on it.;)

:D

Robert

Well you got JMckie's question answered correctly, I merely corrected the spelling.:)

[JMckie]

I thought it was some NIA (Newfangled Internet Acronym)

(I made that up.)