Holgado
01-08-2005, 05:03 AM
FUGAWI has just released the MAP OF AMERICA. An interesting product with GPS software for Palm OS (iQue3600).
http://www.fugawi.com/docs/fugMOA.html
http://www.fugawi.com/docs/fugMOA.html
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jonasolof
01-08-2005, 06:23 AM
Hi Holgado
It's interesting that the US topomap also has road overlays. BTW, road overlays exist also for Europe, although here you have to use other maps (or photos) for the underlying topo info. See www.fugawi.de. I've used the overlays for driving in Norway before there was Navteq coverage. The european overlays are made by Tele Atlas for Fugawi.
Nowadays, I mainly use Fugawi on the iQue for going on a MTB, using a modified cradle to hold the iQue. I have the same complaint as Hagaborg re Pathaway in the Fastfinger thread - the nav software occupies all the buttons.
It would be good to prepare a case to be presented to Northrop, the canadian makers of Fugawi, bringing up the possibility of enhancing the user interface of Fugawi Palm by implementing Fast Fingers as an option, maybe with a set choice of alternatives. Would you be interested in making a button Maybge proposal?
Kristina Menalo appears to have been quite a good contact person. Maybe you could contact her and present JMckie's work. With Joseph being in Canada, further contacts shouldn't be a problem.
I guess the same could be done for Pathaway. Hagaborg, did you contact them?
It's interesting that the US topomap also has road overlays. BTW, road overlays exist also for Europe, although here you have to use other maps (or photos) for the underlying topo info. See www.fugawi.de. I've used the overlays for driving in Norway before there was Navteq coverage. The european overlays are made by Tele Atlas for Fugawi.
Nowadays, I mainly use Fugawi on the iQue for going on a MTB, using a modified cradle to hold the iQue. I have the same complaint as Hagaborg re Pathaway in the Fastfinger thread - the nav software occupies all the buttons.
It would be good to prepare a case to be presented to Northrop, the canadian makers of Fugawi, bringing up the possibility of enhancing the user interface of Fugawi Palm by implementing Fast Fingers as an option, maybe with a set choice of alternatives. Would you be interested in making a button Maybge proposal?
Kristina Menalo appears to have been quite a good contact person. Maybe you could contact her and present JMckie's work. With Joseph being in Canada, further contacts shouldn't be a problem.
I guess the same could be done for Pathaway. Hagaborg, did you contact them?
Holgado
01-08-2005, 07:01 AM
Jonas: Kristina Menalo is well aware of posts regarding FUGAWI on this forum, so there in Canada will be "hearing" our calls.
jonasolof
01-08-2005, 08:00 AM
Yes, but...
Unless Kristina is an active iQue user herself, the advantages of Fastfinger will be less obvious. Also, the app has to prove itself on other Palms such as the Tungsten 3. I'll test that.
Maybe Bernie Bowker could add in also. He used to be quit active re Fugawi earlier, but now that it works along well, we haven't seen him for some time.
Unless Kristina is an active iQue user herself, the advantages of Fastfinger will be less obvious. Also, the app has to prove itself on other Palms such as the Tungsten 3. I'll test that.
Maybe Bernie Bowker could add in also. He used to be quit active re Fugawi earlier, but now that it works along well, we haven't seen him for some time.
NS1007
01-08-2005, 08:46 AM
Good to hear that something is still being developed.
I hope she remebers my/our comments and/or request we had a year ago. In the last version she only had fixed on bug we found and reported.
I still use Fugawi and I'm pleased with it, I think it's a totally underestimated application.
ns
I hope she remebers my/our comments and/or request we had a year ago. In the last version she only had fixed on bug we found and reported.
I still use Fugawi and I'm pleased with it, I think it's a totally underestimated application.
ns
rkevwill
01-08-2005, 10:32 PM
Ok folks, excuse my ignorant question here, but I have never used another map set with the Ique. How does it work with the built in maps on the Ique? Do you just remove the detailed maps, does the garmin basemap still appear? How do you launch the Fugawi map? And how do you switch between the Fugawi maps and the garmin maps?
Looks very interesting to me, and I think it would be great for when I go into some of my backcountry areas flyfishing.
Looks very interesting to me, and I think it would be great for when I go into some of my backcountry areas flyfishing.
Holgado
01-09-2005, 03:08 AM
Both maps, GARMIN and FUG, can be used alternately.
I keep those maps on the SD card and just with the touch of a button, change maps, from Garmin to the topo maps of FUGAWI. So you do not have to clear any map from iQue memmory as long as you have space on the SD card.
The only remark I have made to FUGAWI is that if I want to keep the FUG track for my records, there is no possibility of turning off the screen of iQue, draining the battery so quickly.
I do have FUGAWI from the first days and quite happy with it.:rolleyes:
I keep those maps on the SD card and just with the touch of a button, change maps, from Garmin to the topo maps of FUGAWI. So you do not have to clear any map from iQue memmory as long as you have space on the SD card.
The only remark I have made to FUGAWI is that if I want to keep the FUG track for my records, there is no possibility of turning off the screen of iQue, draining the battery so quickly.
I do have FUGAWI from the first days and quite happy with it.:rolleyes:
rkevwill
01-09-2005, 09:29 AM
oh yeah, saving the trak would be important! If you don't, that would be like the birds eating the breadcrumbs!
strumble
01-09-2005, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by rkevwill
Ok folks, excuse my ignorant question here, but I have never used another map set with the Ique. How does it work with the built in maps on the Ique? Do you just remove the detailed maps, does the garmin basemap still appear? How do you launch the Fugawi map? And how do you switch between the Fugawi maps and the garmin maps?
Looks very interesting to me, and I think it would be great for when I go into some of my backcountry areas flyfishing.
I cannot provide examples for USA but I enclose 'screenshots' of my visit to a caravan site in England.
I can also keep in the iQue the Ariel view[see next posting]
I have Fugawi set to open on the DateBook [Hard button] and the change between QueMap and Fugawi takes perhaps 2 seconds.
Ok folks, excuse my ignorant question here, but I have never used another map set with the Ique. How does it work with the built in maps on the Ique? Do you just remove the detailed maps, does the garmin basemap still appear? How do you launch the Fugawi map? And how do you switch between the Fugawi maps and the garmin maps?
Looks very interesting to me, and I think it would be great for when I go into some of my backcountry areas flyfishing.
I cannot provide examples for USA but I enclose 'screenshots' of my visit to a caravan site in England.
I can also keep in the iQue the Ariel view[see next posting]
I have Fugawi set to open on the DateBook [Hard button] and the change between QueMap and Fugawi takes perhaps 2 seconds.
strumble
01-09-2005, 09:46 AM
Ariel view as mentioned in previous posting.
Holgado
01-09-2005, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by rkevwill
oh yeah, saving the trak would be important! If you don't, that would be like the birds eating the breadcrumbs!
Instead of the FUG track the Garmin track is my prefered record as both tracks can be recorded at a time.
There is another sample of the FUGAWI topo maps.
oh yeah, saving the trak would be important! If you don't, that would be like the birds eating the breadcrumbs!
Instead of the FUG track the Garmin track is my prefered record as both tracks can be recorded at a time.
There is another sample of the FUGAWI topo maps.
Bernie Bowker
01-09-2005, 12:28 PM
I'm still reading the form but don't have much to offer. I stopped using Fugawi because I was finding too many bugs with the program PC side. Kristina was very helpful until she was told that she wasn't to waste any more time trying to solve my problems--not her fault but made me decide to drop Fugawi. I found Pathaway much more user friendly for the IQue anyway.
jonasolof
01-09-2005, 03:41 PM
I guess FastFinger buttons would be practical for Pathawy also?
JMckie
01-09-2005, 04:34 PM
Unfortunately Pathaway also maps all the hard keys and there appears to be no way to configure them.
However, there must be software out there that lets you launch programs from the other keys, like the REC, ESC, and even the jog dial. Then you can map FastFinger to the REC button.
I've seen such a program but I decided not to use it. I wish I remember what it was.
However, there must be software out there that lets you launch programs from the other keys, like the REC, ESC, and even the jog dial. Then you can map FastFinger to the REC button.
I've seen such a program but I decided not to use it. I wish I remember what it was.
jonasolof
01-09-2005, 04:44 PM
That's one way to go if we can find an app that does it. Those that know Pathawy well could come up with a proposal for a FF layout which could be presented to the company together with an offer to help with the solution. It is obvious that it would make the nav program much easier to use in certain situations.
JMckie
01-10-2005, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by jonasolof
That's one way to go if we can find an app that does it. Those that know Pathawy well could come up with a proposal for a FF layout which could be presented to the company together with an offer to help with the solution. It is obvious that it would make the nav program much easier to use in certain situations.
I figured a way to map the iQue's "Rec" button to launch FF, or any program for that matter. I'm thinking whether I should just build the capability in FF, or create a separate app just to do the mapping. The separate app might be useful in itself.
That's one way to go if we can find an app that does it. Those that know Pathawy well could come up with a proposal for a FF layout which could be presented to the company together with an offer to help with the solution. It is obvious that it would make the nav program much easier to use in certain situations.
I figured a way to map the iQue's "Rec" button to launch FF, or any program for that matter. I'm thinking whether I should just build the capability in FF, or create a separate app just to do the mapping. The separate app might be useful in itself.
rkevwill
01-10-2005, 11:18 PM
Strumble/Holgado,
Ok, I am sold. Where do I send the commission check. This is perfect, as some of the back country areas I go to in my 4wd, don't really have roads mapped on the garmin. And no topo to speak of. You would be surprised how small of roads (like gravel, dirt, and some logging roads) they DO have though.
Holgado, did you say the Ique goes ahead and does a track (lets say, in the background) while the fugawi map is live and on screen? Now thats interesting! Clarify please.
Ok, I am sold. Where do I send the commission check. This is perfect, as some of the back country areas I go to in my 4wd, don't really have roads mapped on the garmin. And no topo to speak of. You would be surprised how small of roads (like gravel, dirt, and some logging roads) they DO have though.
Holgado, did you say the Ique goes ahead and does a track (lets say, in the background) while the fugawi map is live and on screen? Now thats interesting! Clarify please.
rkevwill
01-10-2005, 11:22 PM
Oh, sorry, I forgot to ask one more thing. If you save a marker, like a waypoint, can you do it on the fugawi maps, or just on the Garmin maps? And if you DO save them on the garmin, do they happen to show up on the Fugawi? Dumb question I know, just trying to clarify and get a feel before I order.
jonasolof
01-11-2005, 03:06 AM
RE Fugawi on iQue:
It's easy to set up waypoints with Fugawi on the iQue
I don't like the track that Fugawi makes on the iQue screen. You can chose the density of dots but they are too large. It might be better to leave the tracking to the Mapsource program running in the background. In fact, you can let both register tracks at the same time.
For some countries/areas you can download digitized raster maps from the internet or get them on CD. They are really nice and easy to use. In Sweden, they are even sold in calibrated formet, you just open them in Fugawi and the GPS shows you right on location.
It's easy to set up waypoints with Fugawi on the iQue
I don't like the track that Fugawi makes on the iQue screen. You can chose the density of dots but they are too large. It might be better to leave the tracking to the Mapsource program running in the background. In fact, you can let both register tracks at the same time.
For some countries/areas you can download digitized raster maps from the internet or get them on CD. They are really nice and easy to use. In Sweden, they are even sold in calibrated formet, you just open them in Fugawi and the GPS shows you right on location.
Holgado
01-11-2005, 10:13 AM
Jonas is right. You can save both tracks, FUGAWI and GARMIN, I also happen to like better the Garmin track.
It applies also to Waypoints, both aplications could work at the time, just exchanging screens at the touch of a button.
I got my own topo maps which I calibrate with FUGAWI, work with 25.000 with a high degree of detail for my trekks.
It applies also to Waypoints, both aplications could work at the time, just exchanging screens at the touch of a button.
I got my own topo maps which I calibrate with FUGAWI, work with 25.000 with a high degree of detail for my trekks.
strumble
01-11-2005, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Holgado
Jonas is right. You can save both tracks, FUGAWI and GARMIN, I also happen to like better the Garmin track.
I prefer the individual Garmin 'tracks' saved on one MapSource file.
Remember to save them in MapSource before saving them on the iQue, as the iQue reduces the track to 500 points! [As you can see I forgot to do what I advise]
I enclose screen shot of PC with track file.
Jonas is right. You can save both tracks, FUGAWI and GARMIN, I also happen to like better the Garmin track.
I prefer the individual Garmin 'tracks' saved on one MapSource file.
Remember to save them in MapSource before saving them on the iQue, as the iQue reduces the track to 500 points! [As you can see I forgot to do what I advise]
I enclose screen shot of PC with track file.
jonasolof
01-11-2005, 05:16 PM
It's a good idea to save big maps 1-10 MB on the SD card and put Fugawi on the card also using PowerRun. But then switching between the iQues mapsource app and Fugawi takes 5-10 seconds, at least going to Fugawi and have it reload the map. Just one small tip (which I believe is still valid): before you leave using Fugawi, load a minute map (1KB) to release the larger map from RAM memory).
EarlyAdopter
01-12-2005, 11:21 AM
These maps are the same scale as Garmin's TOPO, so why are they better?
strumble
01-12-2005, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by EarlyAdopter
These maps are the same scale as Garmin's TOPO, so why are they better?
In Europe we do not have 'Garmin's TOPO', so we cannot compare.
I always use CitySelect for the navigation to and from a place, but Fugawi gives me detail of the paths in the New Forest or in the Pembrokeshire National Park. They serve two different needs.
I carry five Fugawi 'tiles' and 200mb of CitySelect and the World BaseMap on my SD card together with BackupMan.
These maps are the same scale as Garmin's TOPO, so why are they better?
In Europe we do not have 'Garmin's TOPO', so we cannot compare.
I always use CitySelect for the navigation to and from a place, but Fugawi gives me detail of the paths in the New Forest or in the Pembrokeshire National Park. They serve two different needs.
I carry five Fugawi 'tiles' and 200mb of CitySelect and the World BaseMap on my SD card together with BackupMan.
jonasolof
01-12-2005, 12:11 PM
Garmin Topo exits in Europe for the following countries:
Germany
Begium
Norway
Sweden
Finland
I believe France and Austria are to appear fairly soon.
One must understand that the topo map graphical data is taken from the grpahical data base that paper maps are made from. So even though you can zoom in on a vectorized topo map, you won't get more detail than the original paper map had. In the case of Sweden, this is 1/100 000 which results in a lousy topo map. Thus, in Sweden, Fugawi is better.
Finland is really high reesolution, quite good.
With the fine screen of the iQue, a raster topo map displays really well so one has to decide which one to use. Nothing prevents you from running a Garmin topo map in the background and a raster topo map in Fugawi at the same time, allowing you to switch at will.
Germany
Begium
Norway
Sweden
Finland
I believe France and Austria are to appear fairly soon.
One must understand that the topo map graphical data is taken from the grpahical data base that paper maps are made from. So even though you can zoom in on a vectorized topo map, you won't get more detail than the original paper map had. In the case of Sweden, this is 1/100 000 which results in a lousy topo map. Thus, in Sweden, Fugawi is better.
Finland is really high reesolution, quite good.
With the fine screen of the iQue, a raster topo map displays really well so one has to decide which one to use. Nothing prevents you from running a Garmin topo map in the background and a raster topo map in Fugawi at the same time, allowing you to switch at will.
EarlyAdopter
01-12-2005, 12:18 PM
Noticed Fugawi will have 1:24,000 version (XL) later this month. Price is higher, but worth it at that scale, I think -- and worth waiting for.
Will Betty plot routes along trails shown on Fugawi maps?
Will Betty plot routes along trails shown on Fugawi maps?
NS1007
01-13-2005, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by jonasolof
Garmin Topo exits in Europe for the following countries:
Germany
Begium
Norway
Sweden
Finland
I believe France and Austria are to appear fairly soon.
Jonas, the Dutch Topo version will also be released very soon.
NS
Garmin Topo exits in Europe for the following countries:
Germany
Begium
Norway
Sweden
Finland
I believe France and Austria are to appear fairly soon.
Jonas, the Dutch Topo version will also be released very soon.
NS
jonasolof
01-13-2005, 12:18 PM
Even in Holland. It should show where you are below sea level.
NS1007
01-13-2005, 12:24 PM
take your diving suit with you when you cross the border!
NS
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