UK Speed Cameras

[strumble]

The UK Speed Camera Database is updated.

The 5200 plus UK camera locations can be downloaded, converted from .ov2 to .mps/.gpx, transferred to PalmDesktop to iQue in less than 10 minutes, without the previous problem of the PC 'hanging' during transfer.

Rather than transferring all 5200 camera locations to the iQue, you can select on Mapsource the areas you rarely visit [ie.sorting above N52deg and deleting].

I have 2400 camera locations working successfully with our forum members' great programs 'Birdwatch' and 'wayQue'. Thank you.

The one problem I cannot overcome is that Cameras have a name/number, location and comment, The iQue shows everything but the comment [GATSO126@60 except in AddressBook]. So I only see GATSO126. It would be useful to see if the camera speed limit is 30,40,50,60mph!!!!
GATSO126@60[mph]

Any ideas how to change the 'Comment' to 'Name' on 5200 waypoints in Mapsource?

[JMckie]

Here's a couple of ways to try.

Export the waypoints to gpx format. Then using a series of search and replace, switch the "name" and "desc" tags. Note that Mapsource only accepts the first 10 characters for the waypoint name.

From Palm Address Book, export your waypoints to a CSV file. Using Excel, move or copy the description column to the name column. Then re-import it.

[JMckie]

Another tip: Once you have your waypoints in text format, you can manipulate the names (merging the speed limit with the name) with the use of a text editor that supports macros (like TextPad).

[strumble]

Originally posted by JMckie
From Palm Address Book, export your waypoints to a CSV file. Using Excel, move or copy the description column to the name column. Then re-import it.

Thank you, it works!

[TudorDoc]

I have not been on the the forum for a while. I was pleased that there now seems to be a solution to being warned about the ever increasing number of Speedcameras.
Can you give me a step by step idiots guide on how to do this.
Which site do you get the speedcamera locations ?
How do you convert into the iQue format and put into the address book? How do you sort the parameters? Before you put them into the address book?

Many thanks

TudorDoc

[AlanJ]

The last time I used speed camera location, they were all stored in the address book and the refresh rate was so slow that I had passed the camera by 7 miles and was still waiting for betty to refresh on my route, in other words a total waste of time!... is this method any better with refresh rates???

[strumble]

Originally posted by TudorDoc
Which site do you get the speedcamera locations ?


Try:-
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/uksafetycameras.php

[strumble]

Screenshot of Camera Data in iQue.

[AlanJ]

Originally posted by AlanJ
The last time I used speed camera location, they were all stored in the address book and the refresh rate was so slow that I had passed the camera by 7 miles and was still waiting for betty to refresh on my route, in other words a total waste of time!... is this method any better with refresh rates???

Ahem ?

[Monkey Hanger]

Sorry about being a bit of a thicko here, but can someone please explain how to (in words of one sylabub) convert and upload this data to my iQue
I have downloaded the cameras file. I have JMckie's Birdwatch.
I also have iQue-WPA.

All these various file formats are bit too much for someone of advancing years like me! :p
Take pity on an old man!

Many thanks.

[strumble]

Screenshot of Camera Data in iQue.

[Monkey Hanger]

Many thanks strumble, I've got them into MapSource now.

Thank you.

[strumble]

Originally posted by Monkey Hanger
Many thanks strumble, I've got them into MapSource now.

Thank you.

Save the file .mps
Import them to PalmDesktop
HotSync

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
Save the file .mps
Import them to PalmDesktop
HotSync

File saved as .mps, but PalmDesktop has no .mps input!!
Am I doing this right? :confused:

[AlanJ]

Nice one..... well tks for answering my question so quick Strumble and your pics are so nice.....

[apersson850]

It takes an installation of the Transfer Waypoints utility, available at Garmin's website, to teach Palm Desktop how to read the waypoints from mps files.
Once that's installed, and you open Palm Desktop Address, you'll have Import Waypoints in Tools - Addins.

[strumble]

Originally posted by apersson850
It takes an installation of the Transfer Waypoints utility, available at Garmin's website, to teach Palm Desktop how to read the waypoints from mps files.
Once that's installed, and you open Palm Desktop Address, you'll have Import Waypoints in Tools - Addins.

Your PalmDesktop should then have the Import Waypoint icon as shown in Screenshot.

[apersson850]

Yes, that's the alternate way of starting it, but the menu way is easier to describe in plain text.

[Monkey Hanger]

My thanks go to strumble for "baby- sitting" me last night! :D

[AlanJ]

Ok...Apart from Struble, is anyone else using the UK speed camers on their Ique who can tell me what the refresh rate is like??????

[bigtuffguy]

you guys are great.
here in canada we dont have to worry about this, but i will definatly remember this if i go to britain

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by AlanJ
Ok...Apart from Strumble, is anyone else using the UK speed camers on their Ique who can tell me what the refresh rate is like??????

Map drawing seems slower. It looks OK on the move though.
I've stripped out the Gatsos in Scotland, Wales and most of the West Country to keep the data to the minimum.
As there are no Gatsos in North Yorkshire or Durham, I can't do any testing just yet.

[AlanJ]

Originally posted by Monkey Hanger
Map drawing seems slower. It looks OK on the move though.
I've stripped out the Gatsos in Scotland, Wales and most of the West Country to keep the data to the minimum.
As there are no Gatsos in North Yorkshire or Durham, I can't do any testing just yet.

THanks for the reply, I had from Brum down to the south coast on mine but it was so slow to unworkable, please keep me informed of your progress with it.
:)

[Monkey Hanger]

Things got so slow I had to get rid of the Gatso data off my iQue.
Then I find out about wayQue, so I install that and try to reload my Gatso data from the Palm Desktop.

ERROR!

What I see now on HotSync is "Unexpected Exception:Base Conduit (212)". All other parts appear to HotSync OK!

I have recompiled my Gatso database in MapSource, but it makes no difference.

Help please!

[apersson850]

I've understood that this is the correct way of doing it, but I wasn't aware that you did it like this. :)

[Monkey Hanger]

I'm grateful for this strumble, but sadly after following the instructions to the letter, I get the same error as posted earlier.

I have posted an image of the error at :

http://www.wigginton-york.co.uk/PDA/Image1.jpg

Although the HotSync Progress shows Outlook Calendar, looking at the detail error report shows that it is clearly with Outlook Contacts.

BTW I do use Outlook and not Outlook Express.


I'd be very happy for any suggestions to solve this one!:confused:

[strumble]

The quality of the image is poor and I cannot make anything of it!
However, you 'seem' to be using Outlook Contacts, never liked that for waypoints! This could be your problem! Perhaps its the HotSync of the Cameras to 3 locations-Outlook, Palm, and iQue that cannot cope.
I use PalmDesktop Address book. Change your settings for a day, after backing up, and use PalmDesktop and the iQue.

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
The quality of the image is poor and I cannot make anything of it!


That's odd. I always test links before posting and that one is crystal clear to me! Sorry about that.


However, I'm not using Outlook Contacts for waypoints. Nothing I change will force a HotSync to Palm Desktop. That's the problem!

I think I'll uninstall Palm Desktop and Pocket Mirror and then reinstall them and see if that's the problem.

I do appreciate your help. Thank you.

[Curious Cat]

Originally posted by Monkey Hanger
That's odd. I always test links before posting and that one is crystal clear to me! Sorry about that.

.....

I checked your link and it's crystal clear to me also. In fact I just sold your list of contacts to a spammer......:D

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by Curious Cat
I checked your link and it's crystal clear to me also. In fact I just sold your list of contacts to a spammer......:D


Oops. Should've scolled up a bit so there was only Gatsos! :(

[reinbeau]

Geoff, your image is fine if you enlarge it.

One of those contacts is obviously bad and causing this hang. I've seen it myself just synching to Outlook and having a bad contact - the problem with mine was I had put a word after a phone number, Outlook couldn't handle it. Mixing text on numeric lines or vice versa is a no-no. Check through the data and see if that isn't what's causing your problem, if it is, delete that entry or fix it.

[Monkey Hanger]

Thanks Ann, for that.

But, one day this all worked and then another day it didn't. There had been no alterations to my address book in the meantime. But I had been messing about with other things. I think I've screwed up PlamDesktop/Chapura in some way.
Anyway, I'm just about to reinstall them.

Thanks

[strumble]

Questions:-
What application do you use for addresses for HotSync to iQue?
Which application do you import the SpeedCameras into prior to HotSync?

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
Questions:-
What application do you use for addresses for HotSync to iQue?
Which application do you import the SpeedCameras into prior to HotSync?

As I said above, I followed your instructions to the letter!

[Curious Cat]

Try opening the Palm Desktop. Then Tools/Options/Tools/Check Now. This check for some problems in the database, sort of like a re-index. It might help and its easy and free.

[strumble]

Before Speed Cameras and I was involved, what application were you using for Addresses [Outlook or PalmDesktop] for HotSync to iQue?

[Monkey Hanger]

Here is the error message:-



HotSync operation started 02/03/2005 18:43:45
OK Voice
PocketMirror® 3.1.6.0 (OEM)
OK Outlook Calendar
-- Outlook Contacts 3.1.6.0 (OEM)

ERROR: 00001022
An unexpected exception occurred.

1307: BaseConduit
591: BaseConduit

Outlook Contacts synchronization failed
Conduit 'Outlook Contacts' Error: Unknown error. (FFFF)
OK Outlook Tasks
OK Outlook Notes
OK System
HotSync operation complete 02/03/2005 18:43:56

It falls over with Outlook, and I'm trying to get data from PalmDesktop!!!!

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
Before Speed Cameras and I was involved, what application were you using for Addresses [Outlook or PalmDesktop] for HotSync to iQue?

Outlook!

The stupid thing is that it did work once. I got all the data down. Now it wont work!

[strumble]

What application do you want to use for Addresses [Outlook or PalmDesktop] for HotSync to iQue?

Your image shows PalmDesktop.
You cannot use both!

[Monkey Hanger]

I want to use PalmDesktop, and the Chapura and PalmDesktop settings are set to that way!

[strumble]

So is the problem, one that you wish to use PalmDesktop for Addresses and HotSync to iQue, but you are being 'forced' to HotSync with Outlook Contacts instead?

I have the choices here. This is the original software supplied in the Setup Disk.

[Monkey Hanger]

IntelliSync?????????

I have only HotSync!

But you are right. I am forced to sync with Outlook and can't sync with PalmDesktop.

[strumble]

Originally posted by Monkey Hanger
IntelliSync?????????

I have only HotSync!

But you are right. I am forced to sync with Outlook and can't sync with PalmDesktop.

When I HotSync it is through the Conduit!! [the forum experts will have a laugh at that] called IntelliSync came with the Setup Disk.

I think this is problem for others to explain.

[strumble]

In my Setup Disk under 'Bonus' is IntellisyncLite -- 6.5MB.
With Broadband I could send you it, if needed.[just been Broadband upgraded -- 2.2Mbps whatever that means]

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
In my Setup Disk under 'Bonus' is IntellisyncLite -- 6.5MB.
With Broadband I could send you it, if needed.[just been Broadband upgraded -- 2.2Mbps whatever that means]

I've found it on my setup disk and am installing it right now!

[strumble]

The suspense is too much, I'm going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Monkey Hanger]

Thanks for all your help strumble.
Have a eglass of plonk!

[Monkey Hanger]

Seems to be working now!!!!!!!

[apersson850]

What's "plonk"?

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by apersson850
What's "plonk"?

Wine!

[JMckie]

One meaning of "plonk" means to killfile someone, as in a newsgroup. The usage here seems incongruous, since Monkey Hanger was expressing gratitude.

So I looked it up and apparently it is that obscure British slang for "Cheap or inferior wine". Who knows how those Brits come up with these things?

[Monkey Hanger]

"Plonk" has many meanings here. The main one these days is to refer to wine, not cheap or inferior, but regular glugging wine.

To be described as a plonker does not indicate a wine drinker. It indicates a "dip stick"!

[AlanJ]

Its ryming slang, like apples and pears (Stairs)
Plonk: Cheap white wine, from the French vin blanc

Vin Blanc-Plonk

[strumble]

Originally posted by Monkey Hanger
Seems to be working now!!!!!!!

Just had that glass of red plonk but how far have you progressed?

[apersson850]

I see, so translated to Swedish, this means that Plonk = Rödtjut, then.

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
Just had that glass of red plonk but how far have you progressed?

All done now matey!

I can't thank you enough for all your help.
You have the patience of a Saint!

[Q-Eye]

Originally posted by apersson850
I see, so translated to Swedish, this means that Plonk = Rödtjut, then.
Or the (American) English slang, "rot gut".

[strumble]

Originally posted by apersson850
I see, so translated to Swedish, this means that Plonk = Rödtjut, then.

Rotgut!!
How do I get those dots on the [o] ???

[AlanJ]

Originally posted by strumble
Rotgut!!
How do I get those dots on the [o] ???

change your Brit input on keyboard to Swedish?
I know how to pronounce it but not spell it, its an umlow ?

[strumble]

Alan & Geoff
Have you entered all Cameras into Mapsource?

[AlanJ]

Originally posted by strumble
Alan & Geoff
Have you entered all Cameras into Mapsource?

Hands up, no, Its something I'm saving for the week-end seeing as its gonna be a cold wet one..:) I'll let you know how it goes...thanks for your help so far...

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
Alan & Geoff
Have you entered all Cameras into Mapsource?

I've got three and a half thousand fixed speed cameras onto mine now! :p

[apersson850]

Even on a British keyboard, you can get these characters by holding Alt, and simultaneously type the character code on the NUMERICAL keypad.

I just can't find any motivation to enter British camera locations into my iQue, so I'll just leave it.

[Monkey Hanger]

Ahhhh, come on Anders! Look at what you're missing! :rolleyes:

[strumble]

Have you imported to iQue?

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
Have you imported to iQue?

All up and running on my iQue! Thanks!

[strumble]

Originally posted by Monkey Hanger
Things got so slow I had to get rid of the Gatso data off my iQue.

Is there any difference in the speed of the iQue 'panning and 'navigating', as both you and AlanJ were experiencing problems with the sheer volume of extra camera waypoints?

Note - I realise, as yet this morning you haven't had a chance to navigate!

[Monkey Hanger]

Morning strumble.

I shall be testing for delays in a short while when I take Mrs MH to work!

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
Is there any difference in the speed of the iQue 'panning and 'navigating', as both you and AlanJ were experiencing problems with the sheer volume of extra camera waypoints?

Note - I realise, as yet this morning you haven't had a chance to navigate!

All back to normal now!

Strumble, you're "The Man"!:D

[TudorDoc]

I have tried to follow the idiot's guide but have hit a roadblock early on.

I opened POI Converter and converted the file uk_gats.ov2 to a .wpt file as instructed

I opened Mapsource. It would not "open" the .wpt file as not the right format. So tried to import instead. Then got an error saying could not import as no spaces after the record ID.

In advance of the next step, I have been to the Palm Desktop and do not have the Green flag for importing waypoints. How do I set this up?

Thanks in anticipation

TudorDoc

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by apersson850
It takes an installation of the Transfer Waypoints utility, available at Garmin's website, to teach Palm Desktop how to read the waypoints from mps files.
Once that's installed, and you open Palm Desktop Address, you'll have Import Waypoints in Tools - Addins.

You'll find it here. (http://www.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=010-00264-00)

[strumble]

Originally posted by TudorDoc
I have tried to follow the idiot's guide but have hit a roadblock early on.

I try and help and then I get called 'the idiot':D :D

AlanJ, Monkey Hanger and TudorDoc,

Try this.

To select your cameras/waypoints/caches within a given radius and eliminate the unwanted:-
POI Grouper:- http://rjdavies.users.btopenworld.com

This is a good addition by the same programmer that provided POI Converter. New this week!

[TudorDoc]

Idiot's guide is short for "guide for idiots" not "guide from idiot"

No offence meant!

Any suggestions as to my wappoint conversion problem?

TudorDoc

[strumble]

Explain it here or PM me.

[Monkey Hanger]

Shades of "deja vu"? :p

[strumble]

Read your PM

[strumble]

Having saved a file .wpt.
You then just click on it and Mapsource opens as in screenshot.
Click OK

[apersson850]

Regarding something much more important, from idiot or not:
To write the letters ö and Ö on a keyboard, that's not using the Swedish mode, hold Alt and key in (while holding Alt down all the time) 148 for lower case, 153 for upper case. You must use the numeric keypad when entering the numbers.

[strumble]

Thank you,
öÖöÖ
I töö am on a 'learning' curve!!

[apersson850]

Nothing wrong with that, as long as it has a positive derivate! If you experiment a little, with numbers from 128 and upwards, you'll find the other special letters too, like åäÅÄ, not only öÖ.

[strumble]

TudorDoc,
Your category in Birdwatch must be the same as in AddressBook.
See screenshot.

[strumble]

The 31st March Update [5804 locations] is available:-
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/uksafetycameras.php

[northerner_uk]

I hope this isn't too much off topic... I've recently bought the Garmin M5 which of course runs Pocket PC.

Is anyone aware of similar software that will allow Speed Camera detection on that platform?

Many thanks

[JMckie]

I'll answer on the other PPC thread.

[strumble]

The Wiltshire authority has now released this

"M4 speed enforcement sites in Wiltshire (Please note that the list below describes the location of the sites and not the direction of enforcement. Enforcement may take place in either direction.):

Approximately 8.3km east of junction 17
Approximately 3.1km east of junction 17
Approximately 8.4km west of junction 16
Approximately 3km east of junction 16
At Junction 15
Approximately 6.9km east of junction 15
Approximately 1.8km west of junction 15"

Cameras will be able to check vehicle speeds at up to 1km distance!

[strumble]

Interesting thread:-
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=18791

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
Interesting thread:-
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=18791

He has my support. Would you please pass it on strumble!

[apersson850]

It does work on the iQue, so that's no obstacle.

[strumble]

I have tested the software but have not the authority to release the download site.

Interesting application!

I enclose two screenshots of the software on the iQue[I have included four red arrows in case you missed the icons].

It requires loading into the MapSource application.

It is only 150k and can be loaded to internal memory.

It is difficult to see the Camera icons [as the iQue road colours are similar -- the visual impact on other Garmin GPS units is much clearer --especially for the units used by the programmer].

It is a visual only application [no audible warnings].

[apersson850]

I'm glad to see that you got it to work, Strumble. I tested it by simply transferring it to internal memory. Thus I didn't have to disturb the 900 MB mapfile on the card, just to test something that I wouldn't have frequent use for anyway.

It works on the 3600a as well.

[strumble]

Originally posted by apersson850
I'm glad to see that you got it to work, Strumble. I tested it by simply transferring it to internal memory. Thus I didn't have to disturb the 900 MB mapfile on the card, just to test something that I wouldn't have frequent use for anyway.

It works on the 3600a as well.

Thanks for your input Anders.
I have edited my previous posting.

[apersson850]

By the way, it seems the author of this map is under the impression that you cannot control the display of these points, resembling cameras. Thus, if you zoom out a bit, you'll get the map completely crowded with these small icons.

However, since the symbols he used for the different cameras are really navigational aids, it's not too surprising that the setting GPS - Preferences - Maps - Marine - Navaids control the font size and scale, where these icons become visible.
If you set the zoom level here to 5 or 8 km, the map will not be swamped with these icons, at smaller scales.
You'll have to keep the map zoomed into these scales, when driving, to see the items in question, of course.

[strumble]

I think these are the locations of the seven 'new' M4 cameras.

70-MOB N51 30.908 W2 04.625
70-MOB N51 32.035 W2 00.547
70-MOB N51 32.789 W1 57.881
70-MOB N51 32.415 W1 48.555
70-MOB N51 31.617 W1 43.538
70-MOB N51 31.802 W1 45.011
70-MOB N51 30.781 W1 37.760

[strumble]

The new 30th April UK Speed Camera database is available.
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/uksafetycameras.php

[7driver]

Very excited about the possibility of a transparent overlay map. If you need mroe testers, let me know!

I'm still using the VBS conversion script published through this forum some time ago, and manually hacking out the cameras I don't want.

Still - with that many waypoints, my iQue now refuses to navigate to any new waypoints without a kick...

[strumble]

I'm already operating most of the UK Camera database[6000 locations] on the iQue without any problem.

[7driver]

Really? Mine limits at 4,500 waypoints refusing to display or navigate to any after that (in alphabetical order).

I think I'm up to date with versions...

[strumble]

Originally posted by 7driver
Really? Mine limits at 4,500 waypoints refusing to display or navigate to any after that (in alphabetical order).

I think I'm up to date with versions...

Have you used the method listed on Page 1 of this thread?
You must use wayQue and Birdwatch.

[strumble]

Originally posted by Monkey Hanger
He has my support. Would you please pass it on strumble!

Here is the link:-
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/walterwright)

[strumble]

Originally posted by strumble
Interesting thread:-
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=18791

Here is the link:-
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/walterwright)

[strumble]

Originally posted by 7driver
Very excited about the possibility of a transparent overlay map. If you need mroe testers, let me know!


Here is the link:-
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/walterwright)

[strumble]

Has anyone tried the overlay?
Any comments?

[apersson850]

Yes, this is the overlay, which when loaded to internal memory on my 3600a (to be able to easily test it together with my regular maps), killed the IR communication of the PDA.
Took a hard reset to restore.

Not that it's the fault of the map, since no matter what the map looks like, it shouldn't affect the IR, but it's a curious coincidence, isn't it?

[7driver]

The IR on mine was fine. But first time I installed it killed the street search facility...

The second time it was fine. Maybe my iQue is just a little unstable to large map deletions and uploads...?!

I am testing a few other marker colours for Walt to see if we can get an iQue-specific overlay which works with the colurs schemes we have...

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by strumble
Has anyone tried the overlay?
Any comments?

Sorry if I'm being a thickie here, but just how do I install it?
I've got it in Mapsource. I select the Gatso map set and then "Send to Device", then it takes an age (10 mins +) to build.
Am I doing this right?

[strumble]

If you are sending it to SD card it will have to included in a completely 'new' mapset with all your selected CitySelect maptiles.

However, Anders suggested that it is sent to the iQue internally, as it is so small a file.

[Monkey Hanger]

I'm sending it to Internal Storage, not the SD card!
Yet, it takes 10 mins + to build "Index Files". Is it building the road maps too?

[strumble]

How big was the file?

[strumble]

Can you see it in Mapsource as just a selection of cameras without road maps?

[strumble]

Originally posted by Monkey Hanger
I select the Gatso map set and then "Send to Device", then it takes an age (10 mins +) to build.
Am I doing this right?

What Gatso map set?

[apersson850]

In Mapsource, this map shows up as "SpeedCameras UK", followed by a version number. Mine has 3.034.

If you select this map only, and then send it to the iQue, or a card, it takes less than a second on my PC. Let it be that it's fairly modern, but still.

My guess is that you opened this Gatso (what's that an acronym fore?) map together with your CS maps. It's rebuilding the index file for these that takes time. Remember that your last map set is selected by default if you open Mapinstall.

If you want the speed cameras together with your maps, then this is the only way to do it. But I was just interested in seeing what it looked like (I don't even live in the UK), so I loaded just the Gatso map in internal memory, to let it coexist with the maps on the card. My card map file is about 900 MB, and takes more than 30 minutes to index and store on the card, when writing directly to the card. Still this is a 3.3 MHz/1 GB/ USB 2.0 card reader machine.

On an old machine, and then hotsyncing too, it will take hours.
Keeping the camera map in internal memory may be a good idea anyway, since this kind of map is likely to be updated more frequently than the CS maps.

[Monkey Hanger]

Thanks for the quick replies guys. I'll try to answer in sequence.

File size - dunno. Stopped it after about 10 mins
In MapSource I see it as "Safety Cameras UK 3.044"
It is seperate from "European City Selecy v6.

I have a P4 2.00 & 512Mb and USB 2.

If it is correct to let it build and download (for 30 mins?)everything then that is not a problem. I just want to be sure that what I am doing is correct and that I am not screwing something up.

[strumble]

Originally posted by Monkey Hanger
Thanks for the quick replies guys. I'll try to answer in sequence.

File size - dunno. Stopped it after about 10 mins
In MapSource I see it as "Safety Cameras UK 3.044"
It is seperate from "European City Selecy v6.

I have a P4 2.00 & 512Mb and USB 2.

If it is correct to let it build and download (for 30 mins?)everything then that is not a problem. I just want to be sure that what I am doing is correct and that I am not screwing something up.

150kb is the size of the overlay
yes, it is seperate from CitySelect
Should take no more than a few seconds to transfer to 'Internal'.
If it is transferring to SD card with a new CitySelect Mapset then it will take some time depending on the size of the CitySelect tiles - the overlay will make little difference!

What was the mention of Gatso mapset?

[Monkey Hanger]

Gatso mapset - my mistake. Meant to say Safety Cameras UK 3.044

The file that has been created is 387ish megabytes, so I guess it's the map set. But, how do I know that the cameras are in it?

Sorry guys! :(

[strumble]

To download the file off the Internet and hotsync to iQue internal takes 4minutes. It does not involve any mapsets!

[strumble]

Another screeshot

[apersson850]

What puzzles most users, regarding this issue, is that you can't see on the map screen, in Mapsource, that you have selected tons of other maps, unless you change the map product selection to that particular mapset!

However, if you open the information panel to the left and click on the "maps" tab, you'll see a long list of map tiles, belonging to the City Select mapset you are transferring together with the camera maps.

So, you have two options:

Include everything in the same mapset, to store on the card. Then your procedure is correct. Select all the maps you want from CS, then change the map product, select the cameras map and transfer the whole bunch to the card (directly or via hotsync).

The other way is to leave the mapset as it is, on the card. Open Mapsource, press Ctrl+N to start with a New setup, select the camera map and transfer it to internal memory in the iQue. Now you can have both maps at the same time, since the iQue will use maps from both the file in internal memory and from the card. Also, should the camera map be updated, you need to install only the update alone, not together will all other maps you have again.

I favor the second method.

[7driver]

Nice -- so we don't have to reload all the CS maps evey time the gatso change

(btw not an acronym -- an abbreviation of Gatsonides -- the rally driver who invented them. Dutch)

[apersson850]

Exactly.

Now I also know who figured these @#¤ things out. Is he still alive, by any chance? :mad:

[strumble]

Screenshot from iQue.

[apersson850]

More important: Crawley comes in second on the list! I bet Bokkie will fall off his chair, if he ever comes back to the "bright side of life".

[7driver]

Strumble -- is that a screenshot form installing as Anders says -- with the new setup in mapsource and with the overlay going into the internal?

I'm working with Walt to get better colours for the iQue overlay. Any comments, please...

[strumble]

Originally posted by 7driver
Strumble -- is that a screenshot form installing as Anders says -- with the new setup in mapsource and with the overlay going into the internal?

I'm working with Walt to get better colours for the iQue overlay. Any comments, please...

Yes, I have installed 'all' in 4minutes on Internal with no changes to CitySelect Mapsets!!

I passed on comments to Walt some weeks ago re the colours and size of icons.

[strumble]

Screenshot of one camera on M4.
Notice the size and colour could be improved.

[apersson850]

Notice that with the setting GPS - Preferences - Maps - Marine - Navaids you can at least control the font size, as well as the zoom level, for these points.

[strumble]

Originally posted by apersson850
Notice that with the setting GPS - Preferences - Maps - Marine - Navaids you can at least control the font size, as well as the zoom level, for these points.

My font was the biggest on the previous screenshot and the zoom level set to 3miles [to prevent a mass of icons when you zoom out]

[7driver]

Notice that actually you can't!

When you try this the words don't always appear as they should -- they only appear when there is lots of room on the screen -- ie when zoomed out a bit so there is less clutter. But in London ceratinly not

Not sure whether this would be different under the opverlay-on-internal memory set-up?

[apersson850]

Yes, it's true that if you select a larger font, then the probability that it's shown on the map decreases.

[7driver]

Anders - (or anyone else) - do you know if this is an affect of having lots of other worson the screen, or just lots of other objects.

It is curious that waypoints will show their words through clutter where the navaids will not.

[Monkey Hanger]

Originally posted by apersson850
What puzzles most users, regarding this issue, is that you can't see om the map screen, in Mapsource, that you have selected tons of other maps, unless you change the mp product selection to that particular mapset!

However, if you open the information panel to the left and click on the "maps" tab, you'll see a long list of map tiles, belonging to the City Select mapset you are transferring together with the camera maps.

So, you have two options:

Include everything in the same mapset, to store on the card. Then your procedure is correct. Select all the maps you want from CS, then change the map product, select the cameras map and transfer the whole bunch to the card (directly or via hotsync).

The other way is to leave the mapset as it is, on the card. Open Mapsource, press Ctrl+N to start with a New setup, select the camera map and transfer it to internal memory in the iQue. Now you can have both maps at the same time, since the iQue will use maps from both the file in internal memory and from the card. Also, should the camera map be updated, you need to install only the update alone, not together will all other maps you have again.

I favor the second method.

Thanks Anders. It all has become very clear now. I understand what I was doing now.
Of course, I still had all the map tiles selected from the last time I d/l the maps.
Thank you all for helping me out! :)

[apersson850]

It's obvious that the priorities for different types of objects are different in this case. It seems (I don't know for sure) that objects, created by the user, have higher priority than objects belonging to a map.
I consider that a reasonable decision.


And Geoff, you are so welcome!

[strumble]

Originally posted by 7driver
I'm working with Walt to get better colours for the iQue overlay.

Any progress here?

How many forum members have used the 'overlay'?

[Monkey Hanger]

Sorry strumble. I've got the overlay loaded but there are no fixed cameras in North Yorkshire or Durham, and I haven't been out of the area yet!

[strumble]

Have you replaced the 'normal' UK speed camera method or are you using both?

Do you find the appearance of the overlay satisfactory?[I find the icons rather small with poor colour]

[7driver]

I've on the overlay only now. I've got some experimental iQue colours from Walt, but they don't quite work yet...

[7driver]

As mentioned I'm using the visual overlay exclusively and have passed some comments back to Walt on the colours. In essence the fixed cams are a little hard to spot against the iQue yellow day background.

But then on the bright side you have to be driving with your eyes closed to get caught by a big yellow Gatso these days. - only the ones hidden in M25 gantries are tricky.

Mobile traps with plod hiding in a bush or van are more what's needed in the database, and these are currently a very visible green on the overlay.

Of course if you're all only driving as fast as you can see, then there's nothing to worry about... I suggest a trip up tp County Durham...

[strumble]

7driver
Thank you for your comments.
How about the monthly update-how is it installed?
Have you installed the iQue specific overlay?

[7driver]

The update is incorporated in a new map by Walt -- this is then put on the iQue using mapsource -- he has a very easy to use installer. All you need to do is pick it and put it on the memory card.

[strumble]

My views have changed, on the value of loading the complete 6000 location Speed Camera Database.

The Static/Gatso/Redlight audible warnings nearly drove me crackers in towns as the 'Birdwatch' software informed me of their location so many times as I went around the roundabouts.
They were being seen at different angles and left and then re-entered the 'Birdwatch' field of vision with a new audible warning each time.


I now use a combination of :-

1-PalmDesktop/Birdwatch/Wayque for 2000 plus 'mobile units' only, with audible warnings. This is only used outside my normal 'corridor'

2-PalmDesktop/Birdwatch/Wayque for 'my personal data base' with audible warnings [basically on my 'corridor' - Pembrokeshire -M4 - to London/Dover/Portsmouth etc.]

3-The 'Snooper' camera locator to give an audible warning of the static/gatso/redlight cameras outside my normal 'corridor'.

Basically, 'wayQue' removes the cluter of visual locations [needed due to the slowing up of the 'redraw' and transfer]

The result is basically audible warnings, but with a quick glance at 'Birdwatch' I can confirm the actual speed limit

'wayQue' also hides all my ocassional waypoints:-
1- my Caravan sites waypoints[200]
2- European waypoints[500]
3- my waypoints out of my normal 'corridor'

It allows me to return them selectively when needed.
As a result the redraw ability within the iQue is not impaired!

[7driver]

Good grief. Have you tried looking out of the front window from time to time for hazards?

[strumble]

I rely on my 2 year old grandson for that:D

[strumble]

The new [5th August] is available here!

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/walterwright

[TudorDoc]

I have changed my laptop and now want to load the latest speedcamera database. I used to have no problem but now cannot get the process to complete.
I have downloaded the complete database. I used the POI grouper to select cameras in a 30 mile radius of London in .ov2 format.
I use POI converter to convert .ov2 to .wpt

I open Mapsource. I cannot "open" the .wpt file directly but I seem to remember that one needs to "import". On choosing import I then can see the .wpt file listed. On trying to import I then get a message that "*.wpt cannot be imported. A problem was found near line 1. No spaces were found after the record ID"

Could someone tell me where I am going wrong? Many thanks

TudorDoc

[crawphil]

You will need POIConverter:-
http://rjdavies.users.btopenworld.com/

Open your Downloaded Speed camera files.
Open POI
Open Redlight ov2 files from where you saved them[648locations]
Save them as .wpt files.
Open the file in Mapsource
Save the file .mps
Import them to PalmDesktop
HotSync



PM me if you need any more details.


Have just tuned into this thread and appreciate your step-by-step instructions. Very helpful. A couple of questions.

I have the standard software set-up with Palm Desktop (including Map Install). I have got as far as saving pocketgps_uk_redlight.ov2 as a .wpt file using POI Converter. Should I have MapSource as part of the standard installation that comes with an IQue 3600 or do I need to buy it?

Also you mention the Redlight ov2 files - not file. Should there be several? Do I need to download any of the other files in the ov2 bmp files folder - such as pocketgps_uk_gatso.ov2?

Any help would be much appreciated. Many thanks.

[strumble]

I have the standard software set-up with Palm Desktop (including Map Install). I have got as far as saving pocketgps_uk_redlight.ov2 as a .wpt file using POI Converter. Should I have MapSource as part of the standard installation that comes with an IQue 3600 or do I need to buy it?

MapSource is Free!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=209

[strumble]

Also you mention the Redlight ov2 files - not file. Should there be several? Do I need to download any of the other files in the ov2 bmp files folder - such as pocketgps_uk_gatso.ov2?


When you have downloaded the August update for speed Cameras you will find a 'new' database within it which is far more use:-
single file version---gpx file
click on that and Mapsource will open up a file of 6000 camera locations.
Use/select what you will use [no point in using cameras in Ireland, Scotland and Wales if you never go there!] and save as a new .mps file
Import the new .mps file into PalmDesktop Address Book using green flag as shown in screenshot.

Any help?? :D

[crawphil]

Thanks so much for your prompt response, Strumble. Everything worked like a dream. Many thanks. Crawphil.