Clie Phone Interface

[JNA]

I'm getting the royal run around from my cell phone carrier on this. What is the best way to interface a Clie with a cell phone? ALL I want to do is send/recieve email while mobile! I could care less about hitting the web, though, at some pointthat would be nice too.

Bluetooth or Hard Wire or whatever? Which phones work best in this application? It's enough to make ya want to drop the bundle and get a NX! Jeeezzz!

Jim

[RVW]

I am having the same difficulties - Any information, even if it was "Sorry, no can do" I would be happy

[thor001]

Hi,
I live in Germany and use a Nokia 6310i with Infrared connection to the Clie.

Works fine with GPRS and GSM.

Would be nicer with bluetooth but I need my MS for data.

[JNA]

My current carrier, T-Mobile, is out to lunch on the whole topic. After the holidays I will begin shopping for a new cell phone carrier and the winner will be the one that demos a phone that interfaces with my Clie. I think that's going to be AT&T. Seems we need to shop and identify which phones will get the job done (Infrared, Bluetooth, Hard Wire) then find the carrier that offes that phone. Seems we have the fewest options in the US but that's because the FCC has had it's head up it's ass for years!

Gobble . . . Gobble . . .

Jim

[Mason]

Both Bluetooth and IR on the Clie side work fine, you just have to find a phone that you like. Here are a some thoughts:

As Thor points out, Bluetooth requires giving up your memory stick during communication. The Bluetooth stick does not have any user accessible memory. So, you have to alternate sticks. (Don't drop your stick in your coffee!)

IR requires line-of-sight communication which makes things tricky if you want to do anything in a train, bus or car etc. (Don't drop your phone in your coffee!)

Go to a phone shop and test different models. Do not accept the sales staff's assurance that it will work without seeing it for yourself. If they can not make it work in the shop, it is a preview of the headaches you will be having. If you decide on, and purchase a phone also make sure it is communicating with you device before you leave the shop. (The demonstration model may have newer software that the sales model.)

It may take a little time, but when you are making expensive purchases and signing service contracts, it is time well spent.


You should not have trouble once you have chosen a service provider and phone model you like.

Mason

[PDASROCK]

I am considering replacing my current phone with one with infrared, and I'm wondering: assuming I get one that works with my clie, do I have to pay extra and get a special contract to use it? I have free weekends, so the idea would be to dial up aol during the weekend and just surf. I could use advantgo to dial up aol right? Thanks for the help.

[jdridd]

I got a cable from thesupplynet.com to connect my N760C to a Nokia 7160, approx. $56.00 with shipping. If your phone and service are compatible you can use the cell phone as a modem. I am logging on with AOL. Once connected you can get wireless content from avantgo.

[PDASROCK]

Thanks. It's not a special version of aol is it? It's just logging on to your regular service using avantgo? Thanks again.

[mazonservices]

I too got a cable from thesupplynet.com to connect my NR70V to a LG510, approx. $56.00 with shipping.
They have cables for just about every possible configuration.
Research the phone you want and check for a cable

Cables for the newest phones are not always avaiable right away.
I use verizon, they have a log on procedure to access the data
connection. Its on there site. You are just dialing into there network.

It works GREAT!
No extra charge for data at 14400 (9600 really)
Comes out of your regular minutes
(Data service not available in all areas)
If you contact them you have to tell them you want DATA service,
NOT web of the new high speed access, those cost extra.

I access Avantgo, AOL, and just about any website.
For email it works fine, slow on the web.

Works better that the Treo I had and better resolution.
Mazon

[PDASROCK]

I am thinking about getting a t68i, because that has infrared, killing the need for a cable.
Also, if I ever switched to bluetooth, I would be ready with my phone.
I am wondering though, does infrared slow down the connection? I know that it is not really slow, and probably faster than the connection to the web, but does anybody have any recommendations or warnings either way?
Thanks again for all the help.

[jdridd]

Actually, there is a special version of aol which is downloaded onto the clie. As for ir, when it was working it was much slower than the cable. Further, while I managed to dial the phone on ir, it always shut down the connection before I could log in.

[Scott777]

I use ATT with a T68 via infrared and it doesnt seem that slow. I'd opt for the bluetooth, but then you have to have your browser on the Clie and with the cache, they can get pretty big. I use Eudora Web for browsing text-based sites (it doesn't display pics). I use Blazer mostly cause it's quick and has a good bookmarking feature. I have to have PalmScape installed in case I get to a place that has frames.

With ATT, you're billed by the kB, not airtime, so watch out. I have the 2mb plan which adds another 12 bucks to my bill. They have bigger plans for heavier users, but this seems to work for me.

BTW, to configure your Clie with ATT, setup a new Network connection called ATT. For the phone number enter *99#

Leave the username and password fields BLANK, and don't mess around with initialization strings or anything.

For the connection, set it to connect via IR modem and you're in business. Just make sure the IR is on on both devices when you try it. Good Luck!

[Mason]

I use both Bluetooth and IR but prefer Bluetooth. Here are some thoughts:

I often use my Clie on the Shinkansen (train). I can leave my phone in my pocket and hold the Clie in my hand, which is very comfortable. It also means I can use the Clie while standing or walking. IR usually requires one to but both devices on a table.

With IR, it is easy to knock the phone and handheld out of line, necessitating a re-connect.

It may be specific to the model, but my phone battery depletion is slower with Bluetooth than IR.

Currently, the Bluetooth Memory Stick is only packaged for Japan. Manual, installation and set-up instructions are written in Japanese. This is not as bad as it sounds, there are lots of posts in English on how to do the install and you do not need Japanese Windows or Mac OS. (Look at the CD and install the Palm executable modules on your Clie.)

Cables are good, however, buying a phone cable limits you to only using phones with compatible plugs. (How are you on conspiracy theories?) Next time you buy a phone...

Follow Scott's advice and determine in advance which billing method your telephone company uses. Choose an appropriate plan for your combined voice and data requirements if they have package plans.

Mason

[JNA]

My thanks to all. This is VERY informative.

im

[Mason]

Hi Jim,

There's lots of excellent information here. Now all you need to do is make your decisions, go out and buy the hardware then make it all work together.

Let us know how it goes; we will open an new thread to discuss whether you should get an IR or Bluetooth pacemaker.

Mason

[JNA]

. . . . pacemaker?

[Mason]

Hope my attempt at humour did not worry or offend you.

At this time you have several possible ways to proceed; it is just a matter of choosing which method is best for your needs.

As you can see from the many replies this is something which can be done easily. You may have to navigate your way around setup menus on the phone and Clie, and try a few different combinations of settings, but it should not be too difficult. Please allow me to emphasize that you are entitled to knowledgeable assistance in a shop. Take your Clie and work with one of their technicians to determine the settings.

Mason

[webqueen]

I successfully check my mail via the Clie and my Verizon phone via a hardwire cable while I am on the road. Verizon even provides the access to the Internet (while using your regular phone minutes) so there is no need to carry another carrier to dial in to.

This company
http://thesupplynet.com/
carries cables for Clies and many phones on the market. It works like a charm!

[bobneal]

Does anyone have experience with the Clie connected to a Sprint Vision phone?

[avijohn]

Solution:
To browse the Internet and send e-mail through a wireless 802.11b wireless connection on the PEG NX60 NX70V, the PEGA WL100 software must be installed and configured.




How to configure the CLIE Mail application to send and receive e-mail through a wireless 802.11b Adhoc connection.

IMPORTANT: Ensure the handheld software has been installed before configuring the handheld for Internet browsing.

On the computer, insert the WL-100 Driver disc into the CD/DVD drive.
In the PEGA-WL100 Installation CD ROM window, in the English box, next to the Wireless LAN Utility heading, click the Install button.
In the Install Tool 4.0 window, under Select a user and click OK, click the down arrow, and click to select the appropriate user name.
In the Install Tool window, in the File Name box, ensure the WL100_ENUS.PRC file is listed.
Click the Done button.
In the Install Tool dialog box, under The listed file(s) will be installed to the handheld when you next perform a HotSync operation, click the OK button.
In the PEGA-WL100 Installation CD ROM window, click the Finish button.
Perform a HotSync® operation to add the WL100_ENUS.PRC file to the handheld.
On the handheld in the HotSync window, under You now need to reset your handheld computer by tapping the button below., tap the Reset button.
In the Preferences window, next to Date & Time, tap the down arrow, and then tap to select Network.
Next to Service, tap the down arrow, and then tap to select Wireless LAN.
Tap the Details... button.
In the Wireless LAN Setup window, tap the Create button.
In the ProfileName box, enter a profile name.
NOTE: The default ProfileName is NewProfile.

In the NetworkID (SSID) box, enter the SSID name of the Adhoc wireless card.
IMPORTANT: If there is only one wireless card within range, it is not necessary to enter an SSID name.

Under ConnectMode, tap the Adhoc button.
Under the Adhoc button, next to ch:, tap the down arrow, and then tap to select the appropriate channel.
Tap the Advanced Setup button.
Next to IP Address:, tap to clear the Auto box.
In the IP Address area, enter an IP address in the same IP range as the computer with Internet access.
NOTE: If the IP address of the computer is 192.168.0.50, an IP address in the same range would be 192.168.0.51.

In the SubnetMask area, enter the same subnet mask as the computer with Internet access.
In the Gateway Address area, enter the same gateway address as the computer with Internet access.
Tap the OK button.
In the Wireless LAN Setup window, tap the OK button.
Under Profile Name:, tap the OK button.
In the Preferences window, tap the Connect button.
On the front of the handheld, tap the Home [FIG. 1] icon.
In the upper-right corner of the window, tap the down arrow, and tap All.
In the All window, tap the CLIE Mail icon.
In the CLIE Mail window, Tap the Menu [FIG. 1] icon.
On the menubar, tap Options.
On the Options menu, tap Accounts.
In the Accounts window, tap the New button.
In the New Account window, under Display Name:, enter an appropriate display name.
NOTE: The display name is the name that will appear in the From field of all outgoing messages.

Tap the Next button.
Under E-mail address:, enter an appropriate e-mail address.
NOTE: The e-mail address is the address used to send and receive mail.

Under Incoming mail server (POP3):, enter the incoming mail server POP3 address.
NOTE: The POP3 address may be obtained from the Internet service provider.

Under Outgoing mail server (SMTP):, enter the outgoing mail server SMTP address.
NOTE: The SMTP address may be obtained from the Internet service provider.

Tap the Next button.
Under Account Name:(ex.carter), enter the name used to login to the Internet service provider.
Under Password:, tap the -Blank- button.
In the Password Entry window, in the New Password: box, enter the password used to login to the Internet service provider.
Tap the OK button.
In the New Account window, tap the Next button.
Under Congratulations, tap the Finish button.
In the Accounts window, tap the OK button.




IMPORTANT: Ensure the handheld software has been installed before configuring the handheld for Internet browsing.

On the computer, insert the WL-100 Driver disc into the CD/DVD drive.
In the PEGA-WL100 Installation CD ROM window, in the English box, next to the Wireless LAN Utility heading, click the Install button.
In the Install Tool 4.0 window, under Select a user and click OK, click the down arrow, and click to select the appropriate user name.
In the Install Tool window, in the File Name box, ensure the WL100_ENUS.PRC file is listed.
Click the Done button.
In the Install Tool dialog box, under The listed file(s) will be installed to the handheld when you next perform a HotSync operation, click the OK button.
In the PEGA-WL100 Installation CD ROM window, click the Finish button.
Perform a HotSync® operation to add the WL100_ENUS.PRC file to the handheld.
On the handheld in the HotSync window, under You now need to reset your handheld computer by tapping the button below., tap the Reset button.
In the Preferences window, next to Date & Time, tap the down arrow, and then tap to select Network.
Next to Service, tap the down arrow, and then tap to select Wireless LAN.
Tap the Details... button.
In the Wireless LAN Setup window, tap the Create button.
In the ProfileName box, enter a profile name.
NOTE: The default ProfileName is NewProfile.

In the NetworkID (SSID) box, enter the SSID name of the wireless access point.
IMPORTANT: If there is only one wireless access point within range, it is not necessary to enter an SSID name.

Next to WEP, click the down arrow, and select 40/64bit:5 characters.
In the WEP KEY Input window, in the KEY Input (5 characters) box, enter an appropriate Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP) key.
Tap the OK button.
In the Wireless LAN Setup window, under ConnectMode, tap the Infrastructure button.
Tap the OK button.
Under Profile Name:, tap the OK button.
In the Preferences window, tap the Connect button.
On the front of the handheld, tap the Home [FIG. 1] icon.
In the upper-right corner of the window, tap the down arrow, and tap All.
In the All window, tap the CLIE Mail icon.
In the CLIE Mail window, Tap the Menu [FIG. 1] icon.
On the menubar, tap Options.
On the Options menu, tap Accounts.
In the Accounts window, tap the New button.
In the New Account window, under Display Name:, enter an appropriate display name.
NOTE: The display name is the name that will appear in the From field of all outgoing messages.

Tap the Next button.
Under E-mail address:, enter an appropriate e-mail address.
NOTE: The e-mail address is the address used to send and receive mail.

Under Incoming mail server (POP3):, enter the incoming mail server POP3 address.
NOTE: The POP3 address may be obtained from the Internet service provider.

Under Outgoing mail server (SMTP):, enter the outgoing mail server SMTP address.
NOTE: The SMTP address may be obtained from the Internet service provider.

Tap the Next button.
Under Account Name:(ex.carter), enter the name used to login to the Internet service provider.
Under Password:, tap the -Blank- button.
In the Password Entry window, in the New Password: box, enter the password used to login to the Internet service provider.
Tap the OK button.
In the New Account window, tap the Next button.
Under Congratulations, tap the Finish button.
In the Accounts window, tap the OK button.



Avinash

[Outeast]

I have the N760C, Motorola Startac cable for connectin btw. the 2 from supplynet. I have verizon wireless. I am having trouble getting it to work. I tried several months ago withthe tech. support from VZ. Had it working but only saw text. Now, I cannot get anything.

1. What is the best browser for gettin on the web, seeing frames, and emailing? I have avantgo. Will that do it?

2. Avantgo server settings: This is what I have (as told by VZ tech)
server address left blank
Port: 80
Username: left blank
Password: left blank


It was supposed to dial #777 I and connect. It no longer does.

DOes anyone use Clie and VZ and get it to work?

Please help

[rsalama]

I've been using a T68i phone from SonyEricsson with T-Mobile service and a CLIE 760 pretty much hassle free. On the CLIE, I set up a network connection through the following:
1. Go to Prefs -> Connection
2. Create a new connection (mine is named T68i GPRS)
3. Select Connect to: Modem
4. Select Via: Infrared
5. Select Dialing: Touch Tone
6. Select Volume: Low
7. Goto Details, and set the Speed: 115,200 and Flow Ctl: Automatic
8. Goto Prefs -> Network
9. Select Service: T68i
10. Fill in username and passwd (not sure these are used...)
11. Select Connection: T68i GPRS
12. My phone string is: Phone: *99***1#, yours might be different.
13. Turn on infrared on your phone, place your pda in range, and click Connect, should work.... (famous last words).

I've also downloaded MsgAgent from the freepalm site and can send and receive my rcn email.

good luck,

rs

[Feothan]

Wouldn't it be the best thing if Sony decides to just add the CELLPHONE capability to the Clié line?

Does anyone know of any 3rd party manufacturer selling a Cell Phone Accessory to the Clié?

[ipgpe13]

I use the IR on my Nokia 8290 to link with my pda with no problem. Also able to surf the web a close to dial up speed. My service is T-moble by the way. I have found that the main problem in getting my set-up to work was my dial-up provider.

Most of the free or cheaper dial up providers, Juno, MSN, were not capable of linking through my cell. Biz-net, AOL and verizon dial-up providers do work. I use verizon dial-up with no problems now.