Im thinking of spending 500-600 Dollars.. I want a Top Of Line PDA.. The Toshiba E740 and Sony Clie NX Looks nice.. The Toshiba has a Built in Wireless Bluetooth Thing which I will use and need and the Sony has a camera.. I wonder what type of Megapixels the sony camera gives..
My Requirements:
Fast
Lots of Memory
Very Nice Color LCD - nice and Bright
Built in Bluetooth
Good Battery Time
Speakers or at least Headphone Jack for me to Play MP3
My Biggest Concern is Whats better Pocket PC or Palm, Looks like Pocket PC has more features and is the new thing.. Palm is more older OS and Microsoft makes pocket pc which is just like windows.. But People still prefer Palm why is that?
I will be basically using it to access internet, Email, Listen to MP3's, Stay Organized, Show off, Remote COntrol for TV Maybe, Read books, and other stuff..
I am a newbie to Handheld PC's so I had a couple of questions:
Do the websites show up like normal or can I only access those Cell Phone type WAP Websites? If Only WAP Websites than what types are there?
What Can I do on the Pocket PC? Can I access notepad and is it just like Windows, so I can do anything Like Windows. Does the handheld Run all .exe's and stuff?
I was wondering If I can make my own ebook? For example I know sites that have the book in Text Format can I take that and convert it to a Book for the Pocket PC?
What is a Pocket PC Really useful for?
Will it work with my Dell Truemobile Wireless Base/Agere Orinico Base..
Do I have to install software for The base or will it automatically detect it?
Theres lots of choices can you please help..
Compaq IPAQ
Toshiba E740
Sony Clie NX
Palm Tungsten
Dell Axim X5
Also I was wondering if I should wait for the Compaq iPAQ 5450 The New One that has a lot more features?
Nitestrike
11-21-2002, 01:52 AM
Seeing your list of requirements I would go with the Curent iPAQ 397x. (The 3970/2975 are the same, the models are just to track sales. Unless you require WiFi then get the 5450, which by the way is out (11/18/02).
TFT screen (really sharp and clear)
Good sounds quiality (w/ headset jack)
Good battery life
Bluetooth
Over all most pages will render, but they might require a pit of scrolling
The PocketPC (PPC) comes with Pocket versions of Word, Excel, Outlook, IE, and Windows Media Player just toname a few. But they can not run the same EXEs as a regular PC.
If you are seroiuse about wanting the WiFi (had to look up the Dell Truemobile Wireless Base) then I'd say get the 5450. I'm not realy sure what the battery life is with the WiFi being used, but there are always the Expansions sleaves that have extended batteries on them also.
So to sum up my ramblings if you are going to go with a PPC, go with the iPAQ 5450, it look like it will cover all your bases.
iPAQ 5450 Forum review (PocketPC Passsion) (http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=105815)
Ya Thats what I thought I would get, The Compaq 5450..
But the thing is it looks heavy and bulky..
The Sony And Toshiba look so Nice and Slick..
Could you tell me the diff between the Toshiba and Compaq, As they both have Wireless Internet and everything..
Also The Toshiba is Cheaper so Why is Compaq Better?
I like the Idea of Sony's Camera, Is it good quality? Like how many megapixels/res do you think it has.. But than again Sony has Palms OS 5.0
I dont know which one is better Palm or Pocket PC 2002? Any Ideas..
PALMIIIC
11-21-2002, 04:08 PM
Also Some Handhelds have Compact Flash and Some Have SD And Some Have Both, What Should I really be looking for, As The Compaq only has SD, is that good enough or not?
Nitestrike
11-21-2002, 04:27 PM
The iPAQ 5450 has Bluetooth (BT) built in, Vibra alert, enhanced BT capabilities, it has the TFT screen. The SD card should be sufficient unless you are going to need a very large amount of audio files. I have had two iPAQs and very happy with them. I had the display go bad on my first one. They drop shipped me a box, paid for the next day back shipping and had it out the door the next day after being repaired. taking a total of 3 days counting the one I called. After getting my PPC 2002 upgrade delayed and then a cracked CD I got a free CLA. I'm thinking of getting the new 5450 but I need to unload the 3975 I have first.
As for comparing it to the Sony I'm not quite sure, it is a hard decision. But I can guarantee you that you'll be happy with the iPAQ, once you get used to it.
PALMIIIC
11-21-2002, 04:37 PM
Whats The SD For? Like what can I put in there to upgrade.. Is it the new thing? Do I not need Compact Flash anymore, is that old stuff..
Are there any other companys coming out with new models or revisions etc like this one from HP?
What Is TFT Screen Compared to the Sony and Toshiba? Is TFT Screen More Resolution, Brighter, and better quality or what? THANKS!
Nitestrike
11-21-2002, 04:46 PM
Well my friend, I am only one person and looks like there are not any other poeple out there willing to give a shout to there opinion. Becuase that is what all this boils down to, what you think you will and will not like. I have given you what I like, and where I think things are going. I would go to the web sites of the three handhelds you've decided on. look at the features and go with it. Maybe some one can stumble accross this thread and inject there two cents worth. The SD Slot looks like it is the storage and card medium that everyone is moving to, from the CF Card, and would be good to get into. THe SD Slott on the iPAQ 5450 is what they call SDIO, it can take "data" cards like GPS, BT, WiFI, Camera, ect. the SD slot in the iPAQ can also take MMC. the TFT/Transflective screen is a much crisper brighter display that I'm sure at least the PPC are going to be moving towards.
PALMIIIC
11-21-2002, 04:49 PM
Thanks for your help! I was wondering where I can get Free Apps, Games, eBooks, and etc..
Nitestrike
11-21-2002, 04:51 PM
A good place to start is right here at PDAStreet.com. They have quite a selection. Plus if you have a certian type of program in mind, just post a message and you'll get some help and suggestions.
PALMIIIC
11-21-2002, 04:52 PM
THANKS! Just waiting for others opinions :)
PALMIIIC
11-21-2002, 04:56 PM
O ya one more question, What is Ram and What is ROM? I heard if your battery dies you lose all your memory and files.. :(?
PALMIIIC
11-21-2002, 04:59 PM
One More Question.. In that SD Slot can I put Memory? And How much does 64 MB go for?
Nitestrike
11-21-2002, 05:57 PM
If it's an SDIO slot it's like the CF slot, it can take memory/storage cards and device cards. I use pricewatch.com or Pricegrabber.com to find the lowest price. Just watch out for the Sandisk SD cards they seem to have trouble some times.
PALMIIIC
11-21-2002, 06:31 PM
OK This sounds ODD!
The new iPAQ is around $700 and the New Dell is Around $300 and the Toshiba around $500-600..
iPAQ, DELL AND TOSHIBA all have the same Specs, Only Things iPAQ Has is Built in 802.11b/BlueTooth(Which Toshiba Has) and The Fingerprint Security..
So The Compaq is $400 more than the Dell For Just the Wireless Net and Fingerprint Security..
And $150-200 more than the Toshiba for a Fingerprint Security..
Now tell me again why I should consider the 5450?
PDASROCK
11-22-2002, 10:05 AM
Hmmm, it all depends just what you want. If youi are willing to spend the extra money on games add-ons and stuff, go with a ppc. On the other hand, if you like tinkering with it, and generally juicing it up any way you can, go with palm os. Due to its nature, multitasking and such, the ppc is not nearly as fast, even with it's x-scale processor, as you might think.
In fact, I wouldn't be totally suprised if the nx70v outperformed the top of the line ppc in some area. When you look at mhz specs, don't just say, wow. ppc is faster, because it's not that much faster if at all, and just the fact that it is will cut into your battery life.
Palm os is a more flexible system, with more games, shareware, freeware, hacks(fun stuff, look up hackmaster), and stuff like that.
If you're into freeware and loading up every bit of space, rom and ram, on your handheld, go palm os. But, if you're willing to spend extra money for fewer, but generally better pppc apps, get it.
Personally, I would get the toshiba or the nx70v. The toshiba is just palin nice, and the nx70v is stunning(have you ever held one in you hand? wheeeee!).
The nx70v camera is a 480x640 pixel camera, so you will be able to take pictures better than your screen can display, it is realy a handy little thing, and if you want an eyecatching device(besides people thinking you have a tumor when staring at the ipaq you have in your pocket) then this is it. The screen is also better resolution than ppc, at 320x480. You can't always use the extra 160 pixels downthe bottom, but if you're willing to look around and find out what apps support it, you're in for a real treat. The keyboardis actuall pretty good once you get used to it, but it's no where near full typing speed. If you want wireless, there's an add-on wifi card slot on it, the cards go for around 150$, but should drop soon. Memory stick is a so-so media. It is not really to big or anything, but they only go up to 128mb(256 prototypes exist, i think?....) and tyhery paln to have 3 gigs within the next few years.
Overall, I use palm os, and I'm sold. The amount of freeware that exists for the platform is insane! On tyhe other hand, ppc is mostly demos and shareware. I also find palm os to be a better generall user interface, and with hacks like easylaunch, you could navigate around 10x as fast as you could on a ppc(woe to the xscale processor). Cheers
PALMIIIC
11-22-2002, 03:51 PM
I know the Palm Has more stuff... But Its been around 2x longer or more than the PPC.. So Im pretty sure the PPC will get lots of programs and be higher than the PALM OS.. That camera on the sony is nice but How do I print the pics? That what size would they print at? Like if I printed them on a White Printer Paper would the quality be good? The Compaq has a lot better Screen, the best I HEARD.. You think the Compaq is big, well what about the nx70? Actually Im waiting to see if Dell release some new handheld with Bluetooth/Wifi Because there new Dell Handheld Axim is $300 and has the same specs as Toshiba, Compaq, and Sony except for the camera and Bluetooth and the Fingerprint Biometric Security on the compaq.. And It looks like the Palm OS is easier and more simple to use which means I can get things done right, but the PPC is more expandible and advanced.. I can change wallpaper, theme and lots of good junk.. Anyways Palm and Sony are the only Palm OS Handhelds.. Everyone is Adapting to the PPC As it is the new craze.. But I dont know... More Opinions Please... Also are there any new PDA's coming out in the next couple of months except the new compaq/HP 5450.. I like the new HP/Compaq H19xx something like that its nice and sleek but its slower and no bluetooth/wifi..
PALMIIIC
11-22-2002, 11:39 PM
I was wondering What Graphics card each PDA Has.. I believe the 5450 has some New Media Q Chip and the Toshiba e740 has a ATI Imageon chip or something.. I was wonderin what other handhelds have (Sony, etc) and what the fastest and best graphics chip is? Is the Ati Imageon better or Media Q? THANKS!
PALMIIIC
11-22-2002, 11:45 PM
I looked some info up:
Toshiba: "The e740 packs the ATI Imageon 100 with 384KB of video memory, the first graphics processor I've seen in a PDA. Other than Toshiba's optional Expansion Pack (video output and USB connectivity) I've yet to find any applications that show the capabilities of the Imageon 100. In theory the graphics processor handles 2D and also provides hardware decoding of MPEG-4 and JPEG images, taking strain off the XScale processor for a more responsive experience. "
Compaq: " The MediaQ platform controller provides stunning new 3.8-inch transflective-TFT color screens with support for 240x320-resolution and 65k vivid colors in the iPAQ Pocket PC h5400. MediaQ's graphic acceleration solution sets the industry standard by providing a rich visual environment that enables multimedia applications and data services delivered over wireless networks. The controller features a full 64-bit 2D graphics engine and 256KB embedded SRAM, which simultaneously improves the graphics performance of applications while reducing overall system power consumption. "
http://www.mediaq.com/newsroom/index.html
Does this mean that the Toshiba's Processor (6 Month old PDA) is faster than a NEW Compaq 54xx Series Graphics Card. It Says the MediaQ on the Compaq is new so I would think it would be faster but looks like it only has 256 KB embedded SRam on the graphics card while the Toshiba has 384 KB.. THANKS!
PALMIIIC
11-22-2002, 11:47 PM
WHAT GRAPHICS CARD DO THE OTHER PDA'S HAVE? For Example, Sony NX70, Axim and others..
PALMIIIC
11-23-2002, 02:42 PM
I heard the Toshiba doesnt have a backlit screen but a sidelit screen which is not as bright as the compaq and dell. The Toshiba has a Reflective Screen unlike the dell and compaq which have Transreflective screen. I also heard the e750 will be out soon, anyone have any info on it, when it is released and specs and etc?
dbuss
11-23-2002, 08:51 PM
Hi Palm,
I was in the same dilemma as you a few weeks ago. I was undecided between the 3970 and E740. I liked the idea of 802.11 built in the E740. But in the final analysis I got the 3970 because the screen was so much brighter then the E740. I decided the brighter screen was nore valuable to me then the built in 802.11. I am very happy with my 3970. I have an 802.11 CF card for it that works great. I was also going to be using my PDA for GPS. When corresponding with Traveroute before I purchased my PDA they suggested the Ipaq. Again, because of the better screen and they also told me the audio was louder then other PDA's. The 3970 works great for GPS navigation.
There's my 2 cents worth.
The bottom line is decide what you are going to use your PDA for and then get the one that best meets those needs.
There will always be newer and better models coming out so you just have to decide when you want to get in and then make the jump.
Dick
PDASROCK
11-23-2002, 10:00 PM
I really don't know what you should get without knowing what you will be using it for. Some examples are games, movies, music, gps, pictures, showing off, writing papers and reports, durability, everything, nothing(e.i. paperweight), wireless conectivity... etc. you get the idea. Let me know, because without knowing, I really don't know what would be best for you ... cheers
PALMIIIC
11-24-2002, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by PDASROCK
I really don't know what you should get without knowing what you will be using it for. Some examples are games, movies, music, gps, pictures, showing off, writing papers and reports, durability, everything, nothing(e.i. paperweight), wireless conectivity... etc. you get the idea. Let me know, because without knowing, I really don't know what would be best for you ... cheers
I will definitely go online with the device with WiFi.. Later down the line I might use the bluetooth with new devices... I will definitely play lots of games. I will listen to MP3's and if I find out how to put movies I might do that too.. I will show it off and will show off pics too.. I dont know about GPS but maybe downt the line. I will try to stay organized by using it. and I will download lots of apps/games to fool around with.. im into downloading new things and using them. I will change themes and wallpapers and etc.. I will check email and go on websites and go chatting.. I want to download books to read eBooks.. I was wondering if there are lot of free themes/apps/games/eBooks and etc for the pocket pc OS?
PALMIIIC
11-24-2002, 12:06 AM
The only model that fits my descriptions is the new iPAQ 5450 but it is $700 which is a little too much for just bluetooth/wifi built in.. I could get the Toshiba e740 which has built in wifi but I heard the screen on there is sidelit apose to backlit on the iPAQ Which means the screens not as good as the iPAQ.. I like the sleekness and the way the e740 looks but lot of people tell me to stay away from it and go towards the iPAQ.. I have no prob with the iPAQ but it is awfully big and bulky.. Its fat and not thin.. I wonder if it would fit in a normal pants pocket? Also for $700 you would think the iPAQ would at least have more ram and more features.. Thats why I think the price will reduce because Dell has made the PPC market price drop..
Also I heard about the new e750 from Toshiba, it is said to be out beginning of 2003.. It has wifi and has 128 mb ram and a 4 in. Transreflective (BACKLIT) screen. I think I should wait for it but I have no confirmation if the info is rumours or facts..
SO ALL IN ALL IM CONSIDERING GETTING THE 5450 or Waiting for the e750? Also since I will be playin games which graphics processor do each have?
THANKS!
PDASROCK
11-24-2002, 01:51 PM
Well, sounds to me like you want the 5450 or an nx70v. It seems like you want to use it for just about everything:
"I will definitely go online with the device with WiFi.. Later down the line I might use the bluetooth with new devices... I will definitely play lots of games. I will listen to MP3's and if I find out how to put movies I might do that too.. I will show it off and will show off pics too.. I dont know about GPS but maybe downt the line. I will try to stay organized by using it. and I will download lots of apps/games to fool around with.. im into downloading new things and using them. I will change themes and wallpapers and etc.. I will check email and go on websites and go chatting.. I want to download books to read eBooks.. "
Online: PPC is somewhat better, but with an nx70v I don't think you would see that much difference, also, the nx70v has a larger screen for internet viewing, if you can get a compatible application.
Lots of games: Nx70v all the way. Pocket pc doesn't know what freeware is, so if you're a program junky like me, you don't want to touch ppc. Palm games are just starting to get really good(if somebody took the time to convert it, I could play doom or whatever on my nr70v, a couple steps down from the nx70v, fullscreen, nice graphics, flowing, etc.)
Mp3s: No real difference. Any good pda will play mp3s.
Movies: Nx because of the larger screen. Having an 5450 wouldn't make any real difference as far as frames per second, or brightness(well, in my opinion).
Show it off: In my opinion, the clamshell design is one of the best things. You flip that baby open and they see all the buttons, and the keyboard, and etc. etc., and anybody will just be amazed, then you take their picture..... on te other hand, the 5450 could probably do some wicked stuff as well.
Gps: While you can get gps for an nx70v, I think it would be better and cheaper on an ipaq(assuming there as a gps option that fits into an expansion slot? There is on the nx, but it is well over 100$)
Organization: I really wouldn't know, my nr70v is perfect for me, but ppc may be just as good.
Downloading new programs: Like I said, palm is way better at freeware, but ppc games can be a little bit better.
Change themes and wallpapers: You can do this with both, but ppc is probably a little better. As far as customization, again, my nr70v is perect(sometimes I don't even use the main launcher), but ppc might be just as good.
Mail, websites, chatting: You probably want ppc for function, but the nx70v has a better screen.
Ebooks: Palm has a pretty good selection for free(www.memoware.com) but I havn't looked into ebooks for ppc.
Overall, it sounds you want an nx. They are smaller, cheaper, more customizable, have cameras keyboards, have better freeware, etc., let me know what you get, cheers
PALMIIIC
11-24-2002, 05:11 PM
The NX is not cheap at all.. Neither is the iPAQ 5450 but at least the 5450 comes with the best screen in the market with a new 3.8 in. screen, new graphics card, bluetooth/wifi, biometric fingerprint security, new HIGH TECH InfraRed Sensor, and a lot more features than the NX.. The NX Camera I think isnt as good as a stand alone camera so it is just for show mostly, the keyboard is way to small to be considered to be used and it is so BIG.. Anyways Im still deciding I heard about the new e750 coming out by spring 2003 and it will have 128 mb ram, 4 in screen, wifi/bluetooth all in a sleek design thats a lot smaller.. Please help me decide and if you have any info on the new Toshiba e750 please let me know..
PDASROCK
11-24-2002, 06:54 PM
Sounds like you're pretty set on ppc. I personally don't think the screen is better(it's not bigger and not as good resolution, although the ipaq may be brighter), the camera is NOT good quality, but it is very fun to play with, and you can still take good pictures, it is far from a gimmick. I didn't know about the ir sensor, what exactly does it do? I think the keyboard is alright(I am 6' so I have big hands, and I still get good use out of it). I don't know what you mean by big. I think it is just fine, and smaller than the 5450 if anything, thinner and not as wide anyway. The fingerprint stuff sounds really fun, and if you need that, that would be really cool.
I still think palm os would be better for your needs, unless you plan on shelling out some serious dough for extra programs. If you want ppc, I would recommend toshiba. cheers
PALMIIIC
11-25-2002, 03:43 PM
Well the new iPAQ 5450 has a new Consumer InfraRed Sensor which was just recently approved by FCC for the 5450.. It is a lot lot stronger than any IR on any PDA..
I think the PPC Would be perfect but Its ugly looking and big and fat... Also it is way overpriced.. I like the look of the Toshiba as you said, but dont want the old e740 and am waiting for the new e750 coming out..
PDASROCK
11-25-2002, 05:13 PM
Good choice.
The ir sounds cool, the thumbpad sounds ok, and it is nice and new, but the price, size, and the fact that it is so ugly bring it down. I think the toshiba is the way to go, although I still think palm os would be better for you. Anyway, toshiba makes good, sturdy, and not to big pdas. Perfect. Cheers
PALMIIIC
11-25-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by PDASROCK
Good choice.
The ir sounds cool, the thumbpad sounds ok, and it is nice and new, but the price, size, and the fact that it is so ugly bring it down. I think the toshiba is the way to go, although I still think palm os would be better for you. Anyway, toshiba makes good, sturdy, and not to big pdas. Perfect. Cheers
Yup Just need info on the new e750.
PDASROCK
11-25-2002, 11:06 PM
Hey, let me know when you get it:D
PALMIIIC
11-25-2002, 11:45 PM
Ya hopefully I will...
STAY IN TOUCH! :)
Budman
12-07-2002, 10:47 AM
I haven't seen an advocate for the Axim, so I guess I have to state my opinion...
Ok, PPC is a new OS basically it has been around Masquerading as Windows CE. Until recently the advent of a new name Pocket PC, Windows CE was unstable, and very difficult to use. Pocket PC has become very similar to windows which allow most people to jump right in and start using the PDA, and they become fairly coherent with it quickly. The PPC uses a handwriting recognition that does not make you learn graffiti, I grant you that Graffiti is not that hard to use, but it’s still something new to learn. For games PPC can play quake, quake2 http://quake.pocketmatrix.com/ , and doom and so forth.
Palm I believe has been around longer, and is free to develop on, but so is the PPC, (in fact I downloaded Embedded C++ from Microsoft to prove this to myself. at a fast speed mind you ) So I believe that more freeware will come out as the PPC grows in Popularity, that’s where the Axim comes in.
Buying a PDA is really up to your personal likes/dislikes. I am a big guy, and the axim's bigger than most PDAs, but that works great for me since I have large hands, and large pockets. Since, the Axim is only 349.00 before the 50 dollar mail in rebate; it is 399 dollars cheaper than the Ipaq 3975. Yes, the ipaq does come with a free carrying case, internal wireless, and a fingerprint security thing. But the rest of the base components equal the Dell Axim 400 MHz version. Now, I grant you those are very nice extras but are they worth an extra 400 dollars? Or 450 dollars after the rebate? In my opinion I didn't see the worth in another 450 dollars. The Axim has a very bright screen, Great Battery life, a good amount of memory, and I just like the look of it (kind of looks like those tablets in Star trek)
Anyway, it is really up to you on which one fits you better. Dell is coming out with the Internal Wireless option, and there are Compact Flash cameras coming out also, I would rather save the 450 ($349) and go with the dell so I can buy more accessories, you can buy a CF wireless card for around 100 dollars retail, so that’s $349 that you can have the wireless option in the Axim. So whets the big difference now? A free case, and a fingerprint security option (which I don't understand because if someone wants to steal your pda, couldn’t they just make you use your thumb to unlock it before leaving?) So you’re paying 349 dollars for convenience factor in my opinion.
sorry for the long post, but i had to catch up :)
PALMIIIC
12-07-2002, 02:01 PM
First of all the its called the iPAQ 5450..
It has more than just WiFi..
It also is a LOTTTT smaller size with a bigger and crisper screen.. It has Biometric Security which lots of Business owners and corporate workers have wanted..
It also has bluetooth which is gonna be extremely popular in the coming years, with all the new bluetooth phones and accessories coming out...
It also has a commercial grade infrared port with greater range which has a bigger range than most PDAs out and it is so new they had to get FCC Permission before selling the PDA, this port is helpful if u are gonna use it as a TV Remote control, Sync Data and etc..
Keep in Mind Dell Is New and doesnt know anything about PPC's and there support wont know anything, Buying a brand new product from a company has its downsides, like errors in programming and little errors here and there that can piss you off.. Compaq/HP has been in this line of PPC for a while and they have built on errors and bigger better things..
Also in a Dell you cannot have bluetooth and wifi at the same time you would have to switch cards because theres not a CF Card yet that combines both in one card and SD slot is only for memory..
Also buying a wifi card makes a big huge thing hang out which takes more weight from PDA and looks ugly, and they dont all work with all the PDA's so there not all compatible, and you have to install drivers and etc.. With the iPAQ its ready to go, and supported by COMPAQ/HP..
So In conclusion if bluetooth cards costs $50 + Wifi Card Costs $100 your total would be $350+$50+$100 = $500 and thats with a bigger size, smaller screen, lower range Infrared Port, switching between Bluetooth and wifi, no James Bond Fingerprint Feature, Less Support and a lot less accessories..
Its your choice, personally I like things built in.. It just looks odd when u add them and the iPAQ Company in general is very informative and helpful and support and nice.. Most people own iPAQs and can tell you why most of the PDA's in everyones hands right now are iPAQ's, because iPAQ's dominated the PDA World, just like windows dominateds Computers..
Heres a good review of the iPAQ: http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/ipaq/5400/5400-1.htm
Budman
12-07-2002, 04:34 PM
i honestly do, Again its my opinion. Pda's are like loli Pops, they come in many flavors, you just have to pick the right one for you
PALMIIIC
12-07-2002, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Budman
i honestly do, Again its my opinion. Pda's are like loli Pops, they come in many flavors, you just have to pick the right one for you
TRUE TRUE.. Not trying to change your mind but just showing you why I want to get the 5450 over Dell.. Im rather gonna wait for the New Dell's to come out with wifi/bluetooth built in than buy the current AXIM X5
Budman
12-07-2002, 10:37 PM
Palm you might know. What is the easiest way to set up a Wireless network for a PDA, I need a cheap, and easy way. I can buy either card for the PDA, I am just looking for the cheapest way to hook it up. Bluetooth is looking good right now, but I am not quite sure how it works?
PALMIIIC
12-08-2002, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Budman
Palm you might know. What is the easiest way to set up a Wireless network for a PDA, I need a cheap, and easy way. I can buy either card for the PDA, I am just looking for the cheapest way to hook it up. Bluetooth is looking good right now, but I am not quite sure how it works?
Well you need a base and a card for your PDA and your on your way.. if you have additional computers just get wifi cards for them and get online.. its very easy, just plug in your ethernet cord from your cable modem or etc in the base and follow directions.. I dont know about prices but D-Link is the cheapest as I've seen and heard but for the card it costs around $100-150 for a CF one.. All in all you will need around at least $200 to get started with just PDA..
Bluetooth is very low data transfer rate, its not really made for internet just to sync things up or for little tasks for example the wireless handsfree for phones..
Budman
12-08-2002, 10:23 AM
cool thanks for the info! I think i can actually do it cheaper than that (ubid.com), but you never know once again thanks for the info
Deadmaninc
12-12-2002, 01:06 PM
If you want a powerful PDA why dont you go get a Toshiba Genieo 550g or a e335. I have heard great things about both of them. They both come with the latest Processesor and I think the 550g with the same graphic card as the e740 plus the 550g has a large 4in bright screen but isnt too bulky. They both are also priced right. The e330 and 335 you can find prices starting at $300-350. You can get a e550 for like $450
PALMIIIC
12-12-2002, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Deadmaninc
If you want a powerful PDA why dont you go get a Toshiba Genieo 550g or a e335. I have heard great things about both of them. They both come with the latest Processesor and I think the 550g with the same graphic card as the e740 plus the 550g has a large 4in bright screen but isnt too bulky. They both are also priced right. The e330 and 335 you can find prices starting at $300-350. You can get a e550 for like $450
I need built in Bluetooth and WiFi, and more Ram Like 128 MB, Seems like the e750 thats coming out has all that and so does the new Dell Axim's that are coming out..
Deadmaninc
12-13-2002, 02:12 AM
The Dell Axim comes with 64mb and so dose the e335 and the 550g but with those I know you can get a bluetooth card for them.
dwinget
12-13-2002, 03:01 AM
There are some things you need to know before you decide to go after the Toshiba e740.
1. Toshiba recently had a recall on its e740s because it had a battery problem. Apparently, the batteries drained quickly and the data was lost if the user tried changing the battery.
2. The display on the iPAQ is brighter and sharper.
3. I have used both the iPAQ 3970 and the Toshiba e740. I saw them in a shop in Hong Kong. The Toshiba ran programs slower than my iPAQ 3660! The iPAQ's seem to have better performance than most other Pocket PCs.
4. There is not much of a price difference between the two basic units. However, one disadvantage of the iPAQ is that you need an expansion pack if you want to use CF cards or add extra functions. This can be costly.
5. The camera on the Sony is not much of a determining factor. There are CF and iPAQ expansion pack-based cameras on the market. Cameras can be installed on almost any Pocket PC. You might want to check out http://www.lifeview.com to see their impressive selection of audio/video accessories.
Good luck on your purchasing decision!
PALMIIIC
12-13-2002, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by dwinget
There are some things you need to know before you decide to go after the Toshiba e740.
1. Toshiba recently had a recall on its e740s because it had a battery problem. Apparently, the batteries drained quickly and the data was lost if the user tried changing the battery.
2. The display on the iPAQ is brighter and sharper.
3. I have used both the iPAQ 3970 and the Toshiba e740. I saw them in a shop in Hong Kong. The Toshiba ran programs slower than my iPAQ 3660! The iPAQ's seem to have better performance than most other Pocket PCs.
4. There is not much of a price difference between the two basic units. However, one disadvantage of the iPAQ is that you need an expansion pack if you want to use CF cards or add extra functions. This can be costly.
5. The camera on the Sony is not much of a determining factor. There are CF and iPAQ expansion pack-based cameras on the market. Cameras can be installed on almost any Pocket PC. You might want to check out http://www.lifeview.com to see their impressive selection of audio/video accessories.
Good luck on your purchasing decision!
1.) Well Every company has problems with there Product, I believe the e740 has lots of bugs but as I was told e750 will have every BUG FIXED and will be a lot faster than iPAQ 5450.
2.) The display on the iPAQ Eats battery and now all the new LCD's are Bright and Crisp because now the new Axim coming out and e750 will or have transflective screens.
3.) The new 5450 Bombed the Benchmark results on.. FYI it is so bad on the benchmark that the e740 was 6-7x faster than the 5450, everyone says its because it was in debug mode but we wont know till someone gets there hands on a retail version.. The Old iPAQs run ARM processors which are faster than any X-Scale Processor on the market even the the 200 MHZ Arm are faster than 400 MHZ, this is because there isnt proper programs to support X-Scale Technology, but it is only slower in OS but in Games and other stuff its a big benefit..
4.)I believe the e740 is $500 and the new 5450 is $700+ but I myself am waiting for the e750 which will probably be around 5450's price range..
PALMIIIC
12-13-2002, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Deadmaninc
The Dell Axim comes with 64mb and so dose the e335 and the 550g but with those I know you can get a bluetooth card for them.
I am not talking abou the current Axim X5 but theres a whole new model series coming out Jan - Mar 2003.. Dell has hinted that it will have Built in WiFi, Bluetooth, lot more memory and always Dell is always the best in there market so somehow there gonna edge out! I havent even considered those e335 or 550g..
I am waiting for Toshiba to come out with e750 and Dell to come out with there stuff..
Deadmaninc
12-13-2002, 04:56 PM
Ok. But I heard that there is a e550g coming out with WiFi standard. Then Viewsonic is gonna bring out a Pocket Pc that is gonna have like the same specs as the 64mb Dell Axim X5 that would have like the best screen on the market and graphics. It is also gonna be priced reasonably because Viewsonic make its own screen.
PALMIIIC
12-13-2002, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Deadmaninc
Ok. But I heard that there is a e550g coming out with WiFi standard. Then Viewsonic is gonna bring out a Pocket Pc that is gonna have like the same specs as the 64mb Dell Axim X5 that would have like the best screen on the market and graphics. It is also gonna be priced reasonably because Viewsonic make its own screen.
But im pickey about my stuff.. If Im gonna pay 3-400+ dollars i would rather get a name brand that people know about.. Why wouldnt I just buy the Dell? I mean viewsonic is name brand and all, but who would choose a viewsonic over a dell for the same Price? Anyways Axim X5 is the dell First Gen Axim's, Jan-Feb they will have a whole new range of PDA's which should Kick /\$$
Deadmaninc
12-16-2002, 12:58 AM
I read today in Pc World that the ViewSonic was smaller and more portable for the same price. Do you know anything about these Dells u are talking about that are suppose to come out? Is it the same one as the X5?
PALMIIIC
12-16-2002, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Deadmaninc
I read today in Pc World that the ViewSonic was smaller and more portable for the same price. Do you know anything about these Dells u are talking about that are suppose to come out? Is it the same one as the X5?
Well Im not sure but Im definitely sure it will be a totally different case and weigh different and size should be difference.. the screen will be bigger, 128 mb ram or more, CF and SD Card slots, at least a 3.5 in Transflective Screen, Bluetooth and WiFi (802.11b) built in, Better InfraRed Port Which goes farther, and rumour has it that Dell will come out with there own Apps like COMPAQ/HP has, meaning like programs for sound and etc made just for the Axim.. And it should be a lot better than other out there because dell always stands out some how.. It might have other Extra FEATURES..
Deadmaninc
12-18-2002, 01:10 AM
What will the addon hardware be? Like will there be GPS and fm radio and other things like that.
PALMIIIC
12-18-2002, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Deadmaninc
What will the addon hardware be? Like will there be GPS and fm radio and other things like that.
I have no info but heard from many that have promised to keep it secret that there will be new and other things, GPRS and Other Stuff, Maybe GPS, THAT WOULD BE COOL!
Deadmaninc
12-19-2002, 04:29 PM
Do you know what graphic card the Dell's come with because I know that the toshiba e740 comes with an ATI chip.
PALMIIIC
12-19-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Deadmaninc
Do you know what graphic card the Dell's come with because I know that the toshiba e740 comes with an ATI chip.
Im pretty sure the current one probably has a sucky graphics card but the one coming out should be a lot better.. I dont know which on is gonna come out..
Basss
12-22-2002, 10:01 AM
I don't want to provoke anybody but I think I'm going to wait till the next Nokia Communicator is comming out. Next generation Symbian os (series 80 interface....)
'cause it got better specs... Like its screen, gprs, lam2 gps, more firmware, better qwerty, easy handeling, Phone, direct internet acces any where you are, no crashes like my Pocket PC...
Just the best solution to all... Or will it be an other symbian driven device? I read moments ago HP is launching a Symbian OS build device with a qwerty.. So what will it be?
:D No offence what so ever... ;)
PALMIIIC
12-22-2002, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Basss
I don't want to provoke anybody but I think I'm going to wait till the next Nokia Communicator is comming out. Next generation Symbian os (series 80 interface....)
'cause it got better specs... Like its screen, gprs, lam2 gps, more firmware, better qwerty, easy handeling, Phone, direct internet acces any where you are, no crashes like my Pocket PC...
Just the best solution to all... Or will it be an other symbian driven device? I read moments ago HP is launching a Symbian OS build device with a qwerty.. So what will it be?
:D No offence what so ever... ;)
All thise will soon be coming to the new 5xxx Series..
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