tr0910
01-29-2006, 01:35 PM
For the sake of other users, I want to document using the X51V to access several Gmail accounts via WM5 Messaging and POP3. One Gmail account that had hundreds of emails, processed them all, but then brought nothing into the pda inbox. Hmmm interesting...
OK, set up a new Gmail account and try that.... Wonderful something is coming through.... Lets send some more.... Hmmm didn't I have 4 email in my PDA inbox and just received 2 more ? ? ? ? ? ? Why do I only have 5 messages in my inbox now?
Lets do another send/receive. Oops, now my inbox is down to 3 emails. Lets send the PDA some more emails... Now I should have 5 more emails. Yes, they all came in, but now I only have 6 emails total.
Now you don't have to have a doctorate in math to realize something is going wrong. Lets try changing the settings on the PDA to makc sure it brings all emails in, not just the last 3 days, and not just the headers.... Still no joy...
Conclusion, some interaction between Gmail POP3 and WM5 messaging results in emails being deleted from the PDA inbox while they still show on the Gmail account. ( I didn't lose any emails in Gmail ) This was not a problem with other POP3 services that I regularly use, so this may not affect you if you don't use Gmail.
By the way, accessing Gmail via Google Mobile on the X51V works fine. This only applies to Gmail POP3 access and the WM5 Messaging client.
OK, here is what my Gmail POP3 settings were:
1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 12:31 pm
I reset Gmail back to "All mail, even mail already downloaded" so Gmail shows the following POP3 status:
1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since Jan 28
Next Send/Receive on X51V my mail all comes back in.
A second Send/Receive now wipes out the email on my PDA and Gmail now shows the following again:
1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 12:38 pm
Bottom Line: Google is too smart for its britches. It thinks that since I have already downloaded the mail, that it can withold it a second time. Since WM5 is syncing and not downloading, the emails are killed on the PDA. Do I understand WM5 correctly???
I can also force the same behavior on my other email provider (not gmail) just by deleting an email via their webmail, a subsequent Send/Receive kills it on the PDA.
Other disclosures WM5.1.70 (build 14410.1.1.3), ISP connection courtesy of Verizon DSL and wi-fi, XP SP2 on the desktop,
hoping you have better luck...
Tim
OK, set up a new Gmail account and try that.... Wonderful something is coming through.... Lets send some more.... Hmmm didn't I have 4 email in my PDA inbox and just received 2 more ? ? ? ? ? ? Why do I only have 5 messages in my inbox now?
Lets do another send/receive. Oops, now my inbox is down to 3 emails. Lets send the PDA some more emails... Now I should have 5 more emails. Yes, they all came in, but now I only have 6 emails total.
Now you don't have to have a doctorate in math to realize something is going wrong. Lets try changing the settings on the PDA to makc sure it brings all emails in, not just the last 3 days, and not just the headers.... Still no joy...
Conclusion, some interaction between Gmail POP3 and WM5 messaging results in emails being deleted from the PDA inbox while they still show on the Gmail account. ( I didn't lose any emails in Gmail ) This was not a problem with other POP3 services that I regularly use, so this may not affect you if you don't use Gmail.
By the way, accessing Gmail via Google Mobile on the X51V works fine. This only applies to Gmail POP3 access and the WM5 Messaging client.
OK, here is what my Gmail POP3 settings were:
1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 12:31 pm
I reset Gmail back to "All mail, even mail already downloaded" so Gmail shows the following POP3 status:
1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since Jan 28
Next Send/Receive on X51V my mail all comes back in.
A second Send/Receive now wipes out the email on my PDA and Gmail now shows the following again:
1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 12:38 pm
Bottom Line: Google is too smart for its britches. It thinks that since I have already downloaded the mail, that it can withold it a second time. Since WM5 is syncing and not downloading, the emails are killed on the PDA. Do I understand WM5 correctly???
I can also force the same behavior on my other email provider (not gmail) just by deleting an email via their webmail, a subsequent Send/Receive kills it on the PDA.
Other disclosures WM5.1.70 (build 14410.1.1.3), ISP connection courtesy of Verizon DSL and wi-fi, XP SP2 on the desktop,
hoping you have better luck...
Tim