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Paul6437
03-22-2006, 10:52 AM
If you want to upgrade your iQue 3600 battery to a 1500mah battery, I can change it for you for $30 (battery included), plus shipping. The battery needs to be modified slightly, but works with no problems. If your iQue is out of warrenty, and don't want to go the Garmin battery replacement method for $50, and you really won't even be sure you get your exact unit you sent in back, then this is a good option for you. Any questions, opinions? And, yes, I have one of these batteries installed in my iQue, and it is working great! If you feel you want replace the battery on your own, than that great also, it's easy to wire the battery to make it work.

Gottfried
03-24-2006, 10:43 AM
Hi Paul,

your offer sounds good, on the other hand I think sending the unit around the world would make no sense. What does it cost to send a new (already modified) battery from you to good old Europe (Germany)? And how would you handle payment? Just curious.

Bye for now Gottfried

Paul6437
03-24-2006, 11:49 AM
Hi Paul,

your offer sounds good, on the other hand I think sending the unit around the world would make no sense. What does it cost to send a new (already modified) battery from you to good old Europe (Germany)? And how would you handle payment? Just curious.

Bye for now Gottfried

Here (http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=305311#) is the rate for USPS going to Germany.

Gottfried
03-24-2006, 12:52 PM
Hi Paul,

your offer sounds good, on the other hand I think sending the unit around the world would make no sense. What does it cost to send a new (already modified) battery from you to good old Europe (Germany)? And how would you handle payment? Just curious.

Bye for now Gottfried

Great link, Paul. it brings me back to PDA-Street to make a reply. But it didn't really answer my question...

Bye for now Gottfried

Paul6437
03-24-2006, 01:12 PM
Great link, Paul. it brings me back to PDA-Street to make a reply. But it didn't really answer my question...

Bye for now Gottfried
Sorry (http://ircalc.usps.gov/intl_extras1.asp?CID=10137&MailType=package&Pounds=1&Ounces=0&NeedGXG=yes&dTotalWeight=&Date=&ServiceChoice=1_3+-+5+Days_27.4&x=55&y=4)

Stupid me....

ktjensen
03-24-2006, 03:36 PM
Paul,

this is a great deal. But I am a newbe. What is in the PDA right now? What size battery is in there now? Will this replacement be a major upgrade??

Kevin

Paul6437
03-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Paul,

this is a great deal. But I am a newbe. What is in the PDA right now? What size battery is in there now? Will this replacement be a major upgrade??

Kevin

It's a great deal if 1. Your iQue 3600 is out of warranty and 2. Your battery is not performing to your satisfaction. There is a 900mah battery in a stock iQue 3600. It would be replaced with a 1500mah battery, which is a 60% increase. I can get a 4 hour movie out of it now.

Paul

fwaltman
03-24-2006, 07:13 PM
Question for you: How long is the turn around?

z06at
03-24-2006, 07:55 PM
I think I can install the battery myself. How much total to send to battery to 91107? Thanks.

NewQ
03-25-2006, 05:27 AM
Where are you located Paul?

Paul6437
03-25-2006, 07:13 AM
I am located in NY, 11416.

Paul6437
03-25-2006, 07:30 AM
Question for you: How long is the turn around?

The same day I receive it, the iQue gets shipped back to you. It's about a 30 minute operation.

Motavator
03-26-2006, 08:59 AM
Hey Paul, Bought a battery from you 4 days ago, as far as I know it has yet to be mailed, I used paypal and you got paid. how would you expect us to believe you will do as you say.

AL

Paul6437
03-26-2006, 11:43 AM
Hey Paul, Bought a battery from you 4 days ago, as far as I know it has yet to be mailed, I used paypal and you got paid. how would you expect us to believe you will do as you say.

AL

AL,
Did you use the ebay link in the other thread to purchase the battery? That is not my auction, and I have no auctions on ebay for anything right now. I did purchase MY battery FROM the same ebay auction that I put the link in the thread, but that auction is not me. I had to wait 3 days to get my battery from him, but he does come through. He is responsive in his emails, try contacting him through ebay. I left positive feedback for the auction, under my ebay username forserioussounds. But you will get your battery from him, he uses regular USPS and that delays transit time.

I personally have 100% feedback under my username, and always do what I say. I am 35 years old, not a kid. I am just trying to HELP out owner of Garmin iQue pda's get upgraded batteries in there units. The batteries Garmin sends in their pda's do not give good performace, and many are defective, dying before there usefull life cycle should be. There is plenty of room in there for a larger battery (thicker), but Garmin went with a small cheaper battery.

When you get your battery, and if you have questions on the wires, just post in the other thread and I will help you out!

Paul

ejaugustine
03-26-2006, 05:39 PM
Paul, where are you located? I know I would love to have better battery life! I live in E TN. Use my iQue 3600 daily at work and for reading and traveling.

rocket666
03-26-2006, 07:52 PM
I am 35 years old, not a kid.

I am just trying to HELP out owner of Garmin iQue pda's get upgraded batteries in there units.

Hah! 35 is too just a kid :D But hey, I understand what you are saying.

In my case, I'm interested in a new battery, and I read your post over on the "other network" which indicates that you still do have to chop off the 2 wires and use the plug from the old battery. That plus needing a t-6 screwdriver seems to be what is needed. Your offer of $30 is certainly a bargain and not going to get you rich.

But what I am curious about is this ebay purchase. Are you saying that the place to get the 1500 mah battery is from somewhere on ebay? Did you mention the seller? Did I miss it somewhere in this thread?

You provided complete detailed instructions and great pictures so I could probably do this myself. Since my current battery seems to still be quite good (at 24 months old) I just wanted to have a spare for when it finally goes. I don't like shipping my ique around and I think I could do the install myself. And this way, I could be up and running again in an hour once I had to replace the battery.

ktjensen
03-26-2006, 08:10 PM
Paul,

Someone mentioned that their Ique 3600 would not charge up with the standard Garmen charger, with your new battery. Now you need a charger with higher amperage/current supplied (whatever is used for that battery)?

So is this true? Or was this some other problem?

Kevin

Motavator
03-27-2006, 06:35 AM
If you want to upgrade your iQue 3600 battery to a 1500mah battery, I can change it for you for $30 (battery included), plus shipping. The battery needs to be modified slightly, but works with no problems. If your iQue is out of warrenty, and don't want to go the Garmin battery replacement method for $50, and you really won't even be sure you get your exact unit you sent in back, then this is a good option for you. Any questions, opinions? And, yes, I have one of these batteries installed in my iQue, and it is working great! If you feel you want replace the battery on your own, than that great also, it's easy to wire the battery to make it work.


With all due respect Paul, you came into the website and made a offer to everyone on a replacement battery. one would assume you where selling the battery. now yes I went to the website and seen Resurs Corp. but hey I thought that was you, why would I think it wasn't. you did not say otherwise. at $6.95 shipping this battery should have been here in 1 to 3 days not snail mail. when resurs corp responded to my letter I wrote they sent me a link to the battery in the letter. the link was for a 1300 mah battery. I did order through your link a 1500mah battery. this will be a wait and see situation.

AL

Paul6437
03-27-2006, 06:54 AM
Paul,

Someone mentioned that their Ique 3600 would not charge up with the standard Garmen charger, with your new battery. Now you need a charger with higher amperage/current supplied (whatever is used for that battery)?

So is this true? Or was this some other problem?

Kevin

Kevin,
As far as I know, no one installed the same batteries that I installed, 1 being a Acer S60, and the other a 1500mah Mio 168 battery. Both batteries and both iQues charge fine with the standard charger. I also did some measurements, and found out that the original garmin battery pulls a stronger current when charging (800mah vs. 600mah). Was this someone on the "other site"?

Paul

jrose1g
03-27-2006, 07:28 AM
With all due respect Paul, you came into the website and made a offer to everyone on a replacement battery. one would assume you where selling the battery. now yes I went to the website and seen Resurs Corp. but hey I thought that was you, why would I think it wasn't. you did not say otherwise. at $6.95 shipping this battery should have been here in 1 to 3 days not snail mail. when resurs corp responded to my letter I wrote they sent me a link to the battery in the letter. the link was for a 1300 mah battery. I did order through your link a 1500mah battery. this will be a wait and see situation.
If you go back and read the entire threads regarding battery replacement, I think you will find that there was never any ambiguity, and that Paul made his offer to replace batteries well after the link was posted indicating where the batteries were available.

Motavator
03-27-2006, 07:41 AM
If you go back and read the entire threads regarding battery replacement, I think you will find that there was never any ambiguity, and that Paul made his offer to replace batteries well after the link was posted indicating where the batteries were available.


I don't completely agree with you, sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it, I believe in this case it's what was not said. As I said jrose1g this will be a wait and see situation,

Paul6437
03-27-2006, 08:56 AM
With all due respect Paul, you came into the website and made a offer to everyone on a replacement battery. one would assume you where selling the battery. now yes I went to the website and seen Resurs Corp. but hey I thought that was you, why would I think it wasn't. you did not say otherwise. at $6.95 shipping this battery should have been here in 1 to 3 days not snail mail. when resurs corp responded to my letter I wrote they sent me a link to the battery in the letter. the link was for a 1300 mah battery. I did order through your link a 1500mah battery. this will be a wait and see situation.

AL

AL,
I came back to this website (after being banned as a long time member, 6 months before we got our iQues here, before the big exodus {soapbox off}) to help out the users that needed help with their batteries. If I posted a link to an auction, my auction, that would be in violation of the forum rules, as advertising. As Kevin said, at $30 with the battery, I'm not going to get rich here. You said "one would assume you where selling the battery", and we know what happends when one Assumes.

Yes, $ 6.95 for shipping is steep, but most of the sellers on ebay charge that way for shipping. The link I posted was for the identical product I purchased through Resurs, and got a 1500mah battery, and I'll bet money you will get the same. He was just probably too busy to copy and paste the right link to ebay. When you get your battery, I would like to know what you got, the 1300 or the 1500, and how you make out installing it.

You can buy and install your own battery, it's not that hard. I was just giving an option to the technically challenged, and/or someone that might not feel comfortable taking apart their precious iQue, to change their battery to a bigger one for less money. And also in ensure they get their same ique they send in, back. Not the big swap Garmin does when you send your iQue in for anything. It's up to the individual, I'm just trying help, not rip people off. No flames here. Good luck with your battery.

Paul

Paul6437
03-27-2006, 09:09 AM
Paul, where are you located? I know I would love to have better battery life! I live in E TN. Use my iQue 3600 daily at work and for reading and traveling.

I live in Ozone Park, NY, 11416. How much battery life to you get now? How many hours do you use the iQue a day (approx)? Is your iQue still under warrenty (how long is that warrenty anyway, it's been so long, I forgot)?

Paul

Motavator
03-27-2006, 09:12 AM
No Flames Paul, We will wait and see.

AL

PS
I have sold on ebay for many years and I always charged shipping to where it was going too, but hey that is the way I done business. no problem.

Thank You

ktjensen
03-27-2006, 09:57 AM
Paul,

Doing good!! Thank you for providing the service.

A tank of gas costs $50, a carton of cancer sticks costs $50, a cheap dinner for two costs $50. I cheap night at the casino is $50. A repair on my kids IPOD that he dropped is $50.

A source to upgrade the battery on my old but wonderful Ique 3600, that has better functions than machines costing twice to three times as much, is priceless (and a good value at $30 plus shipping).

I THINK YOU SHOULD CHARGE MORE!! LIKE MAYBE $50??

Okay off my soapbox.

Paul6437
03-27-2006, 10:21 AM
Paul,

Doing good!! Thank you for providing the service.

A tank of gas costs $50, a carton of cancer sticks costs $50, a cheap dinner for two costs $50. I cheap night at the casino is $50. A repair on my kids IPOD that he dropped is $50.

A source to upgrade the battery on my old but wonderful Ique 3600, that has better functions than machines costing twice to three times as much, is priceless (and a good value at $30 plus shipping).

I THINK YOU SHOULD CHARGE MORE!! LIKE MAYBE $50??

Okay off my soapbox.


No problem Kevin, thank you on the advanced pmt. Just awaiting on the batteries, should get them tomorrow, there right there in New York. Everything is looking good. I will keep you updated in PM's.

cwoods
04-01-2006, 06:12 PM
If you want to upgrade your iQue 3600 battery to a 1500mah battery, I can change it for you for $30 (battery included), plus shipping. The battery needs to be modified slightly, but works with no problems. If your iQue is out of warrenty, and don't want to go the Garmin battery replacement method for $50, and you really won't even be sure you get your exact unit you sent in back, then this is a good option for you. Any questions, opinions? And, yes, I have one of these batteries installed in my iQue, and it is working great! If you feel you want replace the battery on your own, than that great also, it's easy to wire the battery to make it work.
Please help
I connected my 3600 today directly to 12v power. I cut the cable from the dash mount cradel and spliced the black and red wires to 12v and now it does not powerup. someone please tell be that there is a fuse inside my Q. Please? :(

ktjensen
04-01-2006, 06:32 PM
OMG!! It am sure your blew the circuitry.

12 volts does not equal 6 volts.

cwoods
04-01-2006, 08:07 PM
You have got to be shitting me. I am going to open it up to see if there is an internal fuse.

Cover me, I am going in. :eek:

Motavator
04-02-2006, 08:08 AM
I think I can install the battery myself. How much total to send to battery to 91107? Thanks.

Well z06at I thought the same thing, hey I am bright, smart, I can do this...WRONG...I received my battery the other day, opened up the how to replace the battery link, took out my betty and proceeded. when I opened the unit I saw the 2 ribbons on the side that attached the circuit board to the front screen, no problem, I separated the two, took out the old battery, wired the mio-168 as paul suggested put this baby back together and said to myself, hell this was easy.....WRONG....when I put it back together the unit turned on but no backlight, Damm...pondered it for awhile could not understand why. well I took it apart again, put 3 pairs of glasses on to see where I went wrong, well I seen the 2 ribbons on the side of the unit but missed the very small ribbon on the bottom that goes from the circuit board to the screen, I guess I do not have to tell you that this is the power that supplies the backlight. the ribbon was so small that when I separated the two and broke it I did not even feel it pull before it broke. I did try to repair it to no avail. it is now sitting in a parts box, I have gotten a new 3600 since then but it was a heartbreak for sure, PAY paul the $30.00 well worth it, sure wish I had.

AL

jrosen
04-02-2006, 12:59 PM
Hi Motavator,
The backlight for the screen on the iQue is connected to the board with two wires, one black and one red. These wires are very short, and may be broken. It is not a big deal to reconnect these wires.Good luck!
Joel R.

Motavator
04-02-2006, 03:23 PM
Hi Joel, wish it was, would be easy. mine is a 2 copper ribbon, and the ribbon is some sort of plastic. tried to melt the plastic to expose the copper,.... was not going to happen, don't know what kind of plastic they used for this ribbon but it would not melt with a soldering Iron. and the ribbon was very short. I was barely able to meet both ends, I was going to glue a small backer to the ribbon then solder the copper together. it was soldered to the board on the one end then ran between the face of the ique. once I tried and failed I took the face apart to see the string lights it was attached too. thanks for trying anyway Joel.

AL

PS
It always seems I have to learn my lessons the hard way. I posted this because I don't anyone else to make the same mistake I made, I have to say I am addicted to my ique and have since bought a new one.

z06at
04-02-2006, 04:21 PM
Well z06at I thought the same thing, hey I am bright, smart, I can do this...WRONG...I received my battery the other day, opened up the how to replace the battery link, took out my betty and proceeded. when I opened the unit I saw the 2 ribbons on the side that attached the circuit board to the front screen, no problem, I separated the two, took out the old battery, wired the mio-168 as paul suggested put this baby back together and said to myself, hell this was easy.....WRONG....when I put it back together the unit turned on but no backlight, Damm...pondered it for awhile could not understand why. well I took it apart again, put 3 pairs of glasses on to see where I went wrong, well I seen the 2 ribbons on the side of the unit but missed the very small ribbon on the bottom that goes from the circuit board to the screen, I guess I do not have to tell you that this is the power that supplies the backlight. the ribbon was so small that when I separated the two and broke it I did not even feel it pull before it broke. I did try to repair it to no avail. it is now sitting in a parts box, I have gotten a new 3600 since then but it was a heartbreak for sure, PAY paul the $30.00 well worth it, sure wish I had.

AL

Thanks for the heads up. Paul makes no money on repleacement the battery at $30. The only thing is I use the iQue daily and it would be difficult without it for a week (I live in Los Angeles).

I notice the Mi0-168 battery has 4 wires, which two I should use? Any other precautions? Thanks.

ktjensen
04-02-2006, 04:52 PM
1) for the guy who can not bare to be separated for a week from his 3600, well send it overnight on a thursday, and you get it back on a monday. I am sure paul could charge you more for overnight shipping.

2) Fot the guy that broke the screen connector, you can jumper new wires in "maybe" but I guess you tried a few things. Maybe ask paul to try and fix it? at no risk to paul, he might try.

BUT YOU NEED TO ASK FIRST. That is not hard to do.

Good luck!!

Motavator
04-02-2006, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Paul makes no money on repleacement the battery at $30. The only thing is I use the iQue daily and it would be difficult without it for a week (I live in Los Angeles).

I notice the Mi0-168 battery has 4 wires, which two I should use? Any other precautions? Thanks.


Do yourself a favor, if you ordered and own the battery cantact paul, I am sure you both could work something out. and yes there are a number of things to watch for, The scroll switch on the side came apart but was able to get it back together.

Good luck z06at
AL

Motavator
04-02-2006, 05:06 PM
1) for the guy who can not bare to be separated for a week from his 3600, well send it overnight on a thursday, and you get it back on a monday. I am sure paul could charge you more for overnight shipping.

2) Fot the guy that broke the screen connector, you can jumper new wires in "maybe" but I guess you tried a few things. Maybe ask paul to try and fix it? at no risk to paul, he might try.

BUT YOU NEED TO ASK FIRST. That is not hard to do.

Good luck!!

Not a problem Ktjensen,
Thank You
AL

wa5ngp
04-02-2006, 08:03 PM
Hey Z06AT,
Do you think that you could use a small piece of adhesive copper tape to connect the backlight? You can get his stuff in rolls like tape and you could trim it to fit. It has sticky on it so in theory at least you could tape it to where the connection is made. If it make good connection you could put hot glue or something like that over the whole thing.

Worth a try. I am old hardware hacker and you certainly have my sympathies because I'm sure that the same thing would have happened to me.

I'm still waiting for ique to come back. The &*$% delivery guy assumed no one was home so they just left a sticker on my garage door requiring a phone call and signature allowing him to just drop it off. My wife was home all day and my dog barks in the house if anyone knocks. I had similar problems before with UPS people just leaving the boxes on the street. And people wonder why they lose their jobs. (sorry had to complain to someone)

Good luck, hope you can fix it.

Don

Motavator
04-03-2006, 06:01 AM
Hi wa5ngp, the problem is can't get through the plastic ribbon to get to the copper, it's a tough plastic but brittle enough to break easy when bent.
Thanks
AL

jrosen
04-03-2006, 06:38 AM
Hello Motavator again,
See attached photo on how you may be able to save your Betty.
Joel R.[COLOR=Black]

Motavator
04-03-2006, 06:59 AM
Hi jrosen, sure wish I had wires for the backlight like you, for what ever reason garmin decided to use that brown ribbon in mine with embedded copper just like the large ribbon you have in your picture. the plastic seems to be bullet proof but brittle, tried heating with solder iron, scraping with razor blade, this is beyond my expertise.
Thanks for trying to help.

AL

ps--my unit is 3 years old

jrosen
04-03-2006, 07:03 AM
The one with the wires is also 3 years old... and servs as a test bed for mods and improvements.
Joel R.

Motavator
04-03-2006, 07:39 AM
As you can see, what ever reason garmin decided to use a ribbon on mine.
AL

Paul6437
04-03-2006, 08:06 AM
As you can see, what ever reason garmin decided to use a ribbon on mine.
AL

I see what you are talking about. I think most of the units have wires in them. You just might be able to eliminate that ribbon and replace it with red and black wires, soldering them to the contacts made by that ribbon cable. Try to trace the wires in the ribbon cable to the board, then CAREFULLY solder wires to the terminal points on the board. Or, you can send it to me to look at it. Good Luck. Let us know how you made out.

Paul

wa5ngp
04-03-2006, 12:28 PM
If you get into soldering here's a tip. Since this will be a tiny area that you are attaching to you will need an extremely sharp tipped soldering iron. Next, and this is more important, take some masking tape and mask everything off except the tiny spot that you are soldering too. I've found the biggest problem with fixing things like this is that inevitably you end up soldering more things than you want. If you mask off the protected areas you are less apt to get solder on them. I used this trick when I converted my palmIIIxe so that it would be rechargeable. I attached tiny wires to the gold fingers at the bottom. The first time I ruined one. I shouldn't have tried the 2nd time but the masking tape made all the difference.

How is it attached to the back lit display? That may be more difficult.

Don

Motavator
04-03-2006, 01:18 PM
Paul
unfortunately the ribbon goes from the board, then between the face of the unit and the lights are attached right to the ribbon. I guess you can say I really screwed this one up. should have listened to you and had you do it, oh well such is life, the good side of all this is I now have a new one with ver-7 map,

Wa5ngp
lol I know what you mean about soldering everything but what you are doing. I have been or was a model train nut most of my life and working on something as small as a z scale train is a challenge to say the least and with anything you need the right equipment, which I have but this~!@#$%^&*()
:( is way beyond me.
PS
anybody want to buy a ique3600 cheap. (only kidding) although I guess it would be good for parts.

Thanks Guys
AL

ktjensen
04-04-2006, 03:49 AM
All,

Paul upgraded my battery on my refurbished Garmin Ique 3600. I litterally CAN NOT kill the battery!! I have been running this thing playing MP3 files all night. Palm should hire you Paul!! You just upgraded their device immensely!!

Kevin

P.S. Device came back looking identical to being sent, no software changes. Just as a tip though. Install BACKUPMAN before sending it out to Paul, and do a backup to a cheap memory card. That way you can restore the device to like new when you get it back, and never blame Paul for any software issues (did not have any software issues, but want to eliminate the issue completely!!).

Paul6437
04-04-2006, 07:23 AM
Your welcome Kevin! I hope you get full use out of your new battery. Now this should be 1 more reason to not be persuaded into getting a newer model pda. (only if we can get that 4GB to work!).

Thanks Kevin for your positive review!

Paul

stevevo
04-04-2006, 04:26 PM
There should be more people out there like you Paul. People helping people is what it is all about. Congrats on you help to so many. I had a 3600 until it went bad 13 times so they sent me a M5 and haven't had a bit of problems but no one is on the board for the M5 like they are for the 3600.

z06at
04-04-2006, 06:08 PM
Paul is a very helpful and nice guy. I have PM him couple times and he responsed quickly with detail answer/explaination. We need more value Forum members like Paul.

Paul6437
04-05-2006, 07:34 AM
All,
Your very welcome. I'm glad I can be of help. Thanks for the positive comments!

wa5ngp
04-05-2006, 03:03 PM
Hey Paul, do you have any photos that show this tricky flex cable that is attached to the backlit display? Apparently, on some models that is easy to break when you take it appart. I'd like to see what that looks like before I ever open mine, although maybe I'll never have to now that I got this replacement. I can always hope that Garmin has started using a better battery. I know, I still believe in the tooth fairy and all that too.

Don

Paul6437
04-05-2006, 03:22 PM
Hey Paul, do you have any photos that show this tricky flex cable that is attached to the backlit display? Apparently, on some models that is easy to break when you take it appart. I'd like to see what that looks like before I ever open mine, although maybe I'll never have to now that I got this replacement. I can always hope that Garmin has started using a better battery. I know, I still believe in the tooth fairy and all that too.

Don

It's pretty simple and not a problem. Just DO NOT MOVE the screen from the circuit board. Lift and turn the whole circuit board with the screen on top and around out of your way.

http://www.railexcorp.com/iquepictures/Liftandturnscreen.jpg

Copy and paste link, insert link is not working.

Paul

wa5ngp
04-07-2006, 12:47 PM
Can you expand on ..., I need that part to go there.
Tks
Don

wa5ngp
04-07-2006, 12:50 PM
BTW, I've had some time to play with Betty since she came back. This one clearly has a better battery. I went on a hike with Fugawi, went several miles and the battery barely went down so I suspect that Garmin has cleared out their bad battery inventory, either that or the tooth fairy is helping. I'd still like to see that link without the .....s

Don

Paul6437
04-07-2006, 01:42 PM
If you want instructions on how to change the iQue battery, look in the forum for a thread named Instructions on changing iQue Battery (http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65264).

Paul

Paul6437
04-07-2006, 01:46 PM
Anybody else want a battery for $30 (shipping included)? I'm running out and not too sure when I can get more.

Paul

stevevo
04-07-2006, 03:27 PM
Very well done Paul. Congrats for your willingness to teach others how to help themselves. Great Job!!

bamb_i
04-11-2006, 09:25 AM
I propose to the Mods, that this thread be made a sticky ! Valuable inform ation here. Well done Paul. I wish my Ique needed the battery replacement now, but seems to be doing fine for the moment.

torisboy
04-11-2006, 06:04 PM
ok I am so ticked at this point. I read this thread last month and all the way up til the instructions on cutting wires. I emailed ( private message) and got no response so I went on and ordered the battery off line. The battery came in correct and I proceeded to cut the wires that were in a previous post. I put it all together and realized I had no back light. I got back on line and realized it was a similar fate to someone else. I wish I would have went back on line and seen the new post with the pictures.Now I have a perfectly good 3600 that is useless to me.
PAY THE GUY TO DO IT.
PS. if anyone wants to make an offer to buy it or wants to attempt the repair, email me at mfwitod@hotmail.com.
I thought it would be easy but missed the two screws holding the circuitry (SPELLING?) board down and ripped out the black back light wire out. In the process of pulling it back apart, I lost the little battery clip that hooks the battery to the unit. Is that a part that I can get from radio shack?

Paul6437
04-12-2006, 08:06 AM
ok I am so ticked at this point. I read this thread last month and all the way up til the instructions on cutting wires. I emailed ( private message) and got no response so I went on and ordered the battery off line. The battery came in correct and I proceeded to cut the wires that were in a previous post. I put it all together and realized I had no back light. I got back on line and realized it was a similar fate to someone else. I wish I would have went back on line and seen the new post with the pictures.Now I have a perfectly good 3600 that is useless to me.
PAY THE GUY TO DO IT.
PS. if anyone wants to make an offer to buy it or wants to attempt the repair, email me at mfwitod@hotmail.com.
I thought it would be easy but missed the two screws holding the circuitry (SPELLING?) board down and ripped out the black back light wire out. In the process of pulling it back apart, I lost the little battery clip that hooks the battery to the unit. Is that a part that I can get from radio shack?

Torisboy,
You never PM'ed me here on PDA Street. I checked, no PM's from Torisboy. I'm not sure who you tried to contact, but it wasn't me. Whenever you read some new information about something, take that as on ongoing project. If you want to partake in a project, always get the latest information. If you would have contacted me, I would have given you the latest information.

On to your iQue. Did you notice if you had broken the Ribbon Cable, or the wires, which would of have been Red and Black. If you broke the ribbon cable, then you need a new backlight. There nothing anybody can do for that. The Ribbon cable is directly soldered to the 10 LED's that provide the light. If you have the one with the wires, there might be a possibility of still soldering to those existing wires and connecting them to the board. Let us know.

I do not have any connectors that Garmin uses to connect their batteries to the board, and do not know where I can get them. If anybody knows where I can get them so I can attach them to the battery that I have, let me know.

Paul

torisboy
04-12-2006, 10:15 AM
Paul,
Im not ticked at you but myself. I didn't mean for it to come off that way. I was just bummed that I didnt go back on line and look at any new posts. If I had, I would have seen the pictures posted and would have removed the two little screws. I didnt see those so I pulled the battery out from the top.
I did not rip out the ribbon, only the black wire.
The problem is that when I took it back off to see about the wire, I lost that little plug. The blame is totally on me.
As for the email, (private message) I am unsure who I sent it to but someone has a message from me. I thought I sent it to you. I am new here and technology is not my thing. I do however feel that you are well deserving of the money for the repairs.....
tod

Paul6437
04-12-2006, 10:47 AM
Tod,
No flames. I just don't like if someone said something about not responding to an email or PM, and it wasn't me. I always respond to my PM's and emails. I would be willing to help you out, or anybody out. But that black wire for the power to the backlight is not your problem anymore. You NEED to find that Garmin plug for the battery. If not, it would be tedious operation trying to solder the wires for the battery onto that small board the plug goes into.

Paul

z06at
04-12-2006, 01:38 PM
I sent Paul 2 PMs and he replied to me in detail very quickly. I follow his instruction and have the battery replaced two days ago. Many thanks to Paul.

jackintx
04-16-2006, 02:49 PM
More kudos to Paul. He sent me the 1500mah battery almost instantly and I was able to install it with no problems using his instructions and photos. He made it relatively easy.
Just one issue -- Where did all that dust come from that was inside the case? :)

jack

hagaborg
05-01-2006, 04:33 PM
Hi Paul,

I'm in Greenland and need 2 1500 mAh batteries to my 2 iQue 3600. How would I pay You and how much if You could send them to my buddy in San Diego CA and she will then send them with some other stuff to me here in Santa Country Greenland.

Regards Christer.

Paul6437
05-03-2006, 07:34 AM
Hi Paul,

I'm in Greenland and need 2 1500 mAh batteries to my 2 iQue 3600. How would I pay You and how much if You could send them to my buddy in San Diego CA and she will then send them with some other stuff to me here in Santa Country Greenland.

Regards Christer.

You have a PM.

Paul

Emission
05-04-2006, 01:04 PM
This offer still open?

I'd love a new battery!!

Paul6437
05-04-2006, 03:14 PM
This offer still open?

I'd love a new battery!!

You have a PM.

Paul

ozbone
05-04-2006, 09:08 PM
I'm also interested. Are you still doing installs or is this DIY?

Paul6437
05-05-2006, 06:57 AM
I'm also interested. Are you still doing installs or is this DIY?

You have a PM.

Paul

DougM38
05-05-2006, 03:12 PM
I am interested in this as well, thanks!

Paul6437
05-05-2006, 07:50 PM
I am interested in this as well, thanks!

You have a PM.

Paul

flipflargin
05-07-2006, 02:21 AM
More praise for Paul as I received one of his 1500mah batteries today and installed it successfully. His accurate instructions with detailed pictures were so totally appreciated (I get nervous opening up anything more expensive than my toaster).

mike

Paul6437
05-08-2006, 08:08 PM
I have some Husky 8-in-1 screwdriver sets available (3) (but I can get more) for just $7 (there cost $5.98 in Home Depot + tax). Sizes T4, T5, T6, T7, T8, T9, T10 and T15. Shipping would be free for the screwdriver set if you order a battery and I put it in the same package.

cybrwarior
05-15-2006, 10:29 AM
I PM'd paul and bought a battery from him. Received the battery very fast through priority shipping. After reading his very detailed thread on the install my install went off without a hitch. Wow what a difference before the install of the new battery, I was only getting an hour or so of battery life, now I am going on 2 days with out a recharge and the level meter has barely moved, this is awesome, thanks again paul...

nomad7674
05-16-2006, 09:50 AM
Is the $30 offer still open? Seems too good to be true, but sounds like experiences are pretty good around here. Thanks, Paul.

Paul6437
05-16-2006, 10:07 AM
Is the $30 offer still open? Seems too good to be true, but sounds like experiences are pretty good around here. Thanks, Paul.

You have a PM.

Paul

BruinFan
05-17-2006, 11:20 AM
Kudos to Paul...

I purchased a 1500mah battery and installed it myself. Unfortunately I made 2 mistakes.

1. I pulled out the very short and very thin wire that connects to the back light. So, no more backlight.

2. It appears that I wired the battery incorrectly as it didn't charge.

I sent it to Paul for repair and he repaired it and sent it back the very same day that he received it.

It works perfectly now.

Thanks, Paul!

gpsstreeter
05-17-2006, 02:40 PM
Paul, do you think your solution would fix my problem? I've had my iQue 3600 for 2 years now. Had the same battery performance problems as everyone else. It has gotten significantly worse recently. To the point that after turning it on, I would immediately get the low battery message; this would occur even after leaving the iQue on the charger for 8-10 hours. Finally, I let it charge for 3 days straight. Now, it won't start at all. No power, no lights whatsoever. Even soft and hard resets (including pressing power or scroll buttons) don't work. Plugging in the charger directly (bypassing the cradle) into unit doesn't work. Same thing using the Auto Nav Kit; no lights, nothing. Will your $30 solution work? Or does it sound more serious? Thanks, Paul. I'm open to any ideas.

Paul6437
05-17-2006, 02:55 PM
Paul, do you think your solution would fix my problem? I've had my iQue 3600 for 2 years now. Had the same battery performance problems as everyone else. It has gotten significantly worse recently. To the point that after turning it on, I would immediately get the low battery message; this would occur even after leaving the iQue on the charger for 8-10 hours. Finally, I let it charge for 3 days straight. Now, it won't start at all. No power, no lights whatsoever. Even soft and hard resets (including pressing power or scroll buttons) don't work. Plugging in the charger directly (bypassing the cradle) into unit doesn't work. Same thing using the Auto Nav Kit; no lights, nothing. Will your $30 solution work? Or does it sound more serious? Thanks, Paul. I'm open to any ideas.

I would have said up to the point you mentioned that you cannot get it powered up again, even directly powering it with the charge pin or cradle, that upgrading the battery would help. It should power on with an external power supply. Try leaving it off any charger for 2 or 3 days to completely decharge the battery have it hard reset. Then try hooking up an external power supply, the green light should come and you should get prompted with a hard reset screen. Let me know how you make out.

Paul

gpsstreeter
05-18-2006, 01:08 AM
I will try your suggestion and let you know what happens. But a couple of questions: (1) Why should the green light come on with a totally discharged battery? (2) If this doesn't work, what are my options? Thanks, Paul.

Maytag21
05-18-2006, 04:40 AM
Hi Paul,

I'm pretty handy and would like to order one of your pre-modded batteries. I managed to open my iQue a while back when the battery seemed to be dying prematurely ( lasted about 6mos ). I opened it just to make sure the battery connector was making good contact. After confirming that it was a dying battery I buttoned it up and sent it in for an RMA. Sorry to say the replacement only lasted about 5mos. So I've basically been running the iQue from the car charger/dock for the past year (battery lasts about 5-10min off the charger). I could sure use one of your super duper batteries. One question though, have you heard any complaints about charging the new battery from the car charger/dock? Please PM or email me with price and shipping of just the modded battery to zip 95035.

thanks,
Dave

NewPrism
05-19-2006, 11:17 AM
Paul, thanks for returning my iQue so quickly. The new battery is great. I ran it down to dead, then recharged it a couple of times. Effective life got better. Garmin battery level indicator shows it dropping sim to the old battery, but the new battery hangs in there with the indicator at maybe the 20% mark but still had 30% + left in the tank. :D
Good job.

gmmatthe
05-22-2006, 06:25 PM
My ique 3600 needs a battery, too. If you are still offering them, please send me the information. Thanks.

f4phantomii
05-22-2006, 08:50 PM
Disaster!

Should have heeded everyone elses advice and just sent it to Paul. Despite being very careful and knowing full well of the danger of the ribbon cable for the backlight, it ripped.

I was reassembling it and the LCD flipped over, tearing the ribbon cable.

I'm now unable to get it to function at all.

I'm certainly no novice....in the last three weeks, I've repaired my clothes dryer, my neighbor's air conditioning unit, two other neighbor's computers (one of them had a cracked path on the motherboard PCB!) and a couple of very cheap battery chargers.

I'm an engineer and I fiddle around with electronics all the time, and I'm so irritated this has happened to me, of all people.

Paul....I may be soliciting your help in the near future if it's offered.

UPDATE:

After several assemblies and disassemblies, I finally got it to work, although obviously with no backlight. That darn scroll wheel *is* a pain in the neck...and second on the list is the lens for the IR port. Always one or the other was coming off.

-Michael

Paul6437
05-23-2006, 08:06 AM
Disaster!

Should have heeded everyone else's advice and just sent it to Paul. Despite being very careful and knowing full well of the danger of the ribbon cable for the backlight, it ripped.

I was reassembling it and the LCD flipped over, tearing the ribbon cable.

I'm now unable to get it to function at all.

I'm certainly no novice....in the last three weeks, I've repaired my clothes dryer, my neighbor's air conditioning unit, two other neighbor's computers (one of them had a cracked path on the motherboard PCB!) and a couple of very cheap battery chargers.

I'm an engineer and I fiddle around with electronics all the time, and I'm so irritated this has happened to me, of all people.

Paul....I may be soliciting your help in the near future if it's offered.

UPDATE:

After several assemblies and disassemblies, I finally got it to work, although obviously with no backlight. That darn scroll wheel *is* a pain in the neck...and second on the list is the lens for the IR port. Always one or the other was coming off.

-Michael

I am sorry for the trouble you had Mike. There was a couple of things that you mentioned, like the IR lens cover and the scroll wheel, which makes me think that you didn't follow the instructions to change the battery precisely. But, things happen and it's unfortunate that you had an iQue that had a ribbon cable for backlight power and that you ripped it. I tried to repair that for someone, but was unsuccessful. If it were the one with the wires, you can repair it.

Some words to people that want to change their own battery:
Can you live without you iQue and possibly with no backlight? Do you want to change your own battery because you thinks it's challenging? Are you willing to risk loosing your backlight in a slip up in the installation? Can you part with your iQue for a few days sending it in to me to change the battery, to rather keep your iQue close to your side and change the battery yourself and possibly break the backlight ribbon cable and have no backlight? Is it worth the shipping costs to and from, and having to get off your chair and go out and get a Money Order and go to the post office to ship out your iQue, then to possibly damage the backlight? Are you financially suited to just buy a new iQue in case you damage your own? There are three reported backlight breakages so far, do you want to be the fourth? Those are some questions one might want to ponder before changing your own battery.
Also, read here (http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=305903&postcount=30), here (http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=305599&postcount=25) and here (http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=306576&postcount=59).
And here (http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65264) for instructions on changing the battery.

Paul

f4phantomii
05-23-2006, 08:26 AM
I am sorry for the trouble you had Mike. There was a couple of things that you mentioned, like the IR lens cover and the scroll wheel, which makes me think that you didn't follow the instructions to change the battery precisely. But, things happen and it's unfortunate that you had an iQue that had a ribbon cable for backlight power and that you ripped it. I tried to repair that for someone, but was unsuccessful. If it were the one with the wires, you can repair it.



I'll have to admit I didn't see your instructions for changing the battery. Instead I followed the instructions in the iQue FAQ, which are pretty much the same with less detail.

Having read your directions, I did indeed follow your steps for reassembly, including placing the IR lens. Unfortunately, what kept happening was if I kept the scroll wheel centered in it's slot, the IR LEDs would bump the lens and knock it out of position. If I was careful not to bump the IR lens, then the scroll wheel was slightly lower in its slot than normal, and just as I'd get everything seated, I'd hear the scroll wheel pop out. After several attempts, at this, I managed to keep the scroll wheel centered and just barely brush by the IR lens.

It was during one of these attempts that the LCD fell away from the main board just enough to rip the ribbon cable. I was so angry, as during disassembly I had actually used some scotch tape to hold the LCD to the mainboard to make sure that didn't happen. I had removed the tape to put it back together and then started having trouble on assembly.

Perhaps my unit has particularly tight tolerances which is what made it so difficult to reassemble.

Now I'm really bummed about the ribbon cable, as I was hoping you had figured out a way to repair it. On your previous attempt, what did you try? At this point I have nothing to lose except $250 for a refurbed iQue. If you can describe it to me, I may try something different. It's pretty much worthless now...I can only read the display in direct sunlight.

Flush another $50 down the tubes as I just last week purchased NA City Select V7 DVD. I doubt Garmin will issue a refund, and any refurbed units seem to come with V7 packaged. Ouch!

-Michael

Paul6437
05-23-2006, 09:17 AM
Now I'm really bummed about the ribbon cable, as I was hoping you had figured out a way to repair it. On your previous attempt, what did you try? At this point I have nothing to lose except $250 for a refurbed iQue. If you can describe it to me, I may try something different. It's pretty much worthless now...I can only read the display in direct sunlight.
-Michael

On my attempt to repair the ribbon cable, all I did was take apart the LCD screen to look at the backlight. I was looking for soldering terminals so I can solder tiny wires to it, but found none. That ribbon cable is one piece that leads to all 7 LCD's. I could not repair it. He let me keep that iQue as he had to buy another one.

Paul

f4phantomii
05-23-2006, 09:44 AM
Ahh....good to know...that will keep me from taking apart my LCD looking for those soldering terminals.

My ribbon ripped right across the middle. I was thinking of trying to carefully peel some of the coating back on the ribbon and expose the traces. If I'm very lucky, I might be able to solder a couple of tiny wires onto the traces and re-connect them to the solder terminals on the mainboard.

If I'm extremely lucky (and clearly I'm not thus far), the traces are only laid down on one side of the ribbon and are exposed on the underside. That way I won't have to worry with peeling back a layer.

I may give that a try tonight, or at least look at it again to see how feasible it is. I remember they are extremely tiny traces.

-Michael

Paul6437
05-23-2006, 10:06 AM
Ahh....good to know...that will keep me from taking apart my LCD looking for those soldering terminals.

My ribbon ripped right across the middle. I was thinking of trying to carefully peel some of the coating back on the ribbon and expose the traces. If I'm very lucky, I might be able to solder a couple of tiny wires onto the traces and re-connect them to the solder terminals on the mainboard.

If I'm extremely lucky (and clearly I'm not thus far), the traces are only laid down on one side of the ribbon and are exposed on the underside. That way I won't have to worry with peeling back a layer.

I may give that a try tonight, or at least look at it again to see how feasible it is. I remember they are extremely tiny traces.

-Michael

Yes, they are tiny traces. You also should unplug the ribbon cables for the touch sensor and the LCD screen. Remove the LCD screen completely from the board and work with just that.

Maytag21
05-23-2006, 01:48 PM
Paul,

Just want to thank you for sending that battery out so quickly. For others interested in replacing your own batteries with Paul's 1500ma replacements, one advice I have is to follow Paul's instructions link a few posts back... follow them carefully. This 1500ma battery rocks, I'm still on the factory charge playing video after video. Just cant say enough, thanks again.

Dave

f4phantomii
05-23-2006, 07:51 PM
Update on my ribbon cable situation.

Paul, I did as you suggested and completely unplugged the LCD to have it free to work on. During this process, I had another thought for an option I might have...more on that in a second.

I've been able to use an exacto razor to scrape away the outer coating of plastic on the piece of ribbon cable that was left. Tough stuff....makes me even more irritated that it tore.

But after some careful scraping, I was able to expose the copper traces in the cable.

I quickly determined I would not be able to solder a wire onto the ribbon without destroying it, either from heat or from solder running to the other trace.

So I'm trying some superglue to join a small wire to the copper trace. It won't take much to dislodge it, I'm sure, but it may hold enough to let me get it back together. I'm letting the glue dry really well for the moment before I proceed further.

I was also able de-solder the remaining portion of the ribbon from the mainboard....it came off easily.

If this works, I'll be sure and take some pictures.

Assuming the worst, I feel I have two options:

I can purchase a refurbished unit from a Garmin dealer, complete with 1yr warranty and all the extras (NA CS v7, car kit, cradle, etc.) for around $250.

The other thing that occurred to me was that Garmin must have a way to replace the LCD if it gets damaged. I know others here have had theirs replaced by Garmin for $75. That seems the cheapest option at the moment. They simply get an LCD with a "good" ribbon cable, plug the rest of it in, and solder the ribbon to the mainboard. Why the backlight doesn't have a connector too is beyond me.

-Michael

Paul6437
05-23-2006, 09:03 PM
Also, try soldering a small pin, or needle onto a wire, and push it through the middle of the ribbon cable trace. Just a thought, it might work, never did it.

Paul

f4phantomii
05-23-2006, 09:22 PM
I was able to get one wire glued onto the trace very well. The other one gave me fits. I never could get it to bond as well as the first one.

After spending two nights at this, I decided it was well worth the $75 not to be spending a third.

So I've contacted Garmin for an RMA to replace the LCD. I'm simply going to ship them the unit with the LCD and the 1500mAh battery missing. Should save them some trouble as well.

I'd actually wondered if they'd simply ship me a new LCD at cost + shipping. After having completely removed mine, I'm sure I can install a new one and solder the new ribbon cable onto the mainboard.

That may be the cheapest solution if they are willing to sell me the LCD.

Might be a good option for you if you want to repair the iQue you were given with the torn ribbon cable. You should be easily able to sell it for at least $150 or more.

I bet if I have the RMA number by tomorrow, I'll have it back by next Tuesday.

-Michael

gpsstreeter
05-24-2006, 03:40 AM
I would have said up to the point you mentioned that you cannot get it powered up again, even directly powering it with the charge pin or cradle, that upgrading the battery would help. It should power on with an external power supply. Try leaving it off any charger for 2 or 3 days to completely decharge the battery have it hard reset. Then try hooking up an external power supply, the green light should come and you should get prompted with a hard reset screen. Let me know how you make out.

Paul
Paul, I did as you suggested and left the unit out of the cradle and unplugged for 4+ days. Then I attempted a hard reset and plugged in the charger directly (bypassing the cradle). No lights, no power, nothing. I attempted soft and hard resets with the same results: no response at all. What should I do now? I'm open to any other suggestions. Thanks!

- Bob

Paul6437
05-24-2006, 06:43 AM
Paul, I did as you suggested and left the unit out of the cradle and unplugged for 4+ days. Then I attempted a hard reset and plugged in the charger directly (bypassing the cradle). No lights, no power, nothing. I attempted soft and hard resets with the same results: no response at all. What should I do now? I'm open to any other suggestions. Thanks!

- Bob

Sorry to say it, but, call Garmin.

Paul

gpsstreeter
05-24-2006, 03:06 PM
Paul, Why won't a replacement battery fix my problem?

Paul6437
05-24-2006, 03:18 PM
Paul, Why won't a replacement battery fix my problem?

If it's not powering on with external power connected or in the cradle, then it's something else. If it were the battery, it would at least go on when external power is connected.

Paul

gpsstreeter
05-25-2006, 02:42 AM
If it's not powering on with external power connected or in the cradle, then it's something else. If it were the battery, it would at least go on when external power is connected.

Paul
Paul, I'll contact Garmin on this. Thanks for your quick responses, though! Another question for you. If my iQue 3600 requires $150 for the out-of-warranty repair, is this worth it? (With this repair, do they provide a new warranty and the latest version of the North America mapping software?) Or do you think the money is better spent on a new Garmin iQue model or other brand of GPS?

- Bob

Paul6437
05-25-2006, 08:20 AM
Paul, I'll contact Garmin on this. Thanks for your quick responses, though! Another question for you. If my iQue 3600 requires $150 for the out-of-warranty repair, is this worth it? (With this repair, do they provide a new warranty and the latest version of the North America mapping software?) Or do you think the money is better spent on a new Garmin iQue model or other brand of GPS?

- Bob

I would say that Garmin should be able to answer most of those questions. The one question that you would have to answer depends on how much Garmin would charge you for the repair, if they do, compared to purchasing a new one. But talking to them would clear alot of your questions.

Paul,

gmmatthe
05-27-2006, 11:41 PM
I got the battery quickly, had not issues installing the connector (I soldered it and used some small heat shrink tubing), and had no issues getting it back together. Battery works. Backlight still works. Battery seemed to be fully charged, or the charging circuit memory hadn't seen that much voltage for a while and so decided it was :). My original battery was pretty worthless (refurb unit, came that way pretty much).

Thanks so much. I look forward to enjoying my iQue again (pretty frustrating to have a bad battery as all of you I'm sure know.

f4phantomii
06-01-2006, 09:17 PM
Update on my botched battery installation.

After two evenings of trying to repair the torn ribbon cable for the LCD backlight, I elected to just send it in and pay the $75 for Garmin to replace the LCD.

As I already had the unit apart and the LCD removed, I just left it out. I also removed the 1500mAh battery. I contacted Garmin and arranged to have it shipped to them for repair.

I've now spent two days arguing with Garmin customer service, all the way up to their Repair Manager. They won't install a new LCD....mostly because they don't actually do any repairs. They can only ship a replacement unit. Because my unit was missing the LCD, they won't accept it under their LCD replacement program.

Instead, I have to pay $150 for an "out of warranty" repair, at which point they will ship me a replacement unit.

They also won't ship me a new LCD...again because they don't actually have any replacement parts.

I literally asked if I had simply smashed the LCD with a hammer and sent it in, would they have replaced it for $75. The answer was yes, but because mine happened to be missing the LCD, they won't. Unbelievable.

I even brought up that I could purchase a "remanufactured" iQue 3600 from a Garmin dealer with a 1yr warranty, the car kit, cradle, updated maps, the works....for around $200.

They simply agreed I should weigh that as an option as their replacement unit would only have a 90 day warranty. It would be worth it, except three weeks ago I purchased the updated maps for $50. They won't provide a refund if I buy a new bundle.

I'd go elsewhere, but at this point I'm so heavily invested in the iQue between external battery packs, cables, software, holster's, car mounts, etc. that I can't justify going to something newer and losing my investment in all that stuff.

Ugh! I feel like I'm being held hostage.

So....Cliff Notes:

Battery install went badly.....gonna cost me at least $150 to recover.

-Michael

Ken in Regina
06-02-2006, 11:32 AM
Garmin's position doesn't sound unreasonable to me. Why didn't you include all of the parts when you returned the unit? Why would you send in a substantially incomplete unit .. virtually shell .. and still expect a complete unit in return?

Paul6437
06-02-2006, 01:04 PM
Sometimes it's best to not say anything to them and just play dumb. I think you can go as far as taking out the battery and putting it all back together and send it to them for an rma.

f4phantomii
06-03-2006, 07:45 PM
I sent it in under the expectation that they would install a new LCD for $75. I figured I'd save them some work and me some shipping weight as I already had the LCD out. As I said, I could have sent the LCD back in pieces and they wouldn't have hassled me.

But obviously my mistake was in assuming they actually did repair work. In fact, they do not. Their "Repair Manager" told me they wouldn't even bother trying to refurb mine, they were just going to throw it away.

So, whether I had sent them the unit with the LCD in 709 little pieces in a plastic baggie, or whether the LCD was missing....what's the difference? Either way, they don't have a salvageable LCD. But apparently there is a difference to them.

I even offered to send them the missing pieces, but they said it wouldn't make any difference.

Incidently, and I don't know if this is true or not, but they told me the iQue 3600 and 3600a were the only two units they even offered an LCD replacement. Any other unit they sell was a flat $150-$175 charge, no matter what was wrong with it. And they implied they would likely be phasing out the $75 LCD replacement option for those units.

But I agree with you Paul....ordinarily I would have just sent it in and said "Gee, I don't know how it could have gotten filled with sand and salt water just sitting in the cradle on my desk, but the battery shorted and melted the whole case into a puddle." They would have just dropped a new one in the mail to me, no questions asked.

Hmm...just encourages people to commit fraud more often, doesn't it?

-Michael

garmin4mike
06-03-2006, 10:22 PM
Paul
I just foundd this forum. I have a 3600, I'm intersted in the battery swap. Only getting 30 to 45 Min out of mine (over 2 years old). I also need some work done to it. In the ac charger plug on the bottom of the unit. The %^$#$ pin in the center broke of. I have been stuck only using the car or home cradle to power the unit or an after market USB. Can you replace that for me? How much if done with the battery swap? Also just today my Garmi External antenna will not work. Standing outside when I plug it into the unit, I get no signal at all. Unit works great with built in antenna. Plug in External antenna signal goes bye bye?? Any thoughts? Thank you. Garmin has told me lots of folks bust that little pin! Love the unit, but suport and attatude suck!

Paul6437
06-04-2006, 12:12 PM
Paul
I just foundd this forum. I have a 3600, I'm intersted in the battery swap. Only getting 30 to 45 Min out of mine (over 2 years old). I also need some work done to it. In the ac charger plug on the bottom of the unit. The %^$#$ pin in the center broke of. I have been stuck only using the car or home cradle to power the unit or an after market USB. Can you replace that for me? How much if done with the battery swap? Also just today my Garmi External antenna will not work. Standing outside when I plug it into the unit, I get no signal at all. Unit works great with built in antenna. Plug in External antenna signal goes bye bye?? Any thoughts? Thank you. Garmin has told me lots of folks bust that little pin! Love the unit, but suport and attatude suck!

I can't do anything with that broken pin. That pin is build right into the palm connector on the bottom, sorry. The external gps connection sounds to me a broken solder connection. If it's just a loose solder, I can do that for nothing extra. If it's not a broken solder connection, chances are I cannot do anything with that. Thanks for your interest.

Paul

RECS
06-11-2006, 11:36 AM
Don't post much but always lurking for information. This battery upgrade is something that I need desperately. Are you still doing these upgrades? :mad: My battery is dead!

Paul6437
06-11-2006, 12:15 PM
Don't post much but always lurking for information. This battery upgrade is something that I need desperately. Are you still doing these upgrades? :mad: My battery is dead!

Yes, I am. I will PM you with the details.

Paul

RECS
06-11-2006, 12:22 PM
Excellent! I'll be looking for it. Thanks!

Ron

remltr
06-18-2006, 09:28 AM
Paul interested in getting the battery. Could you please send me details on how to order it from you. Thanks

remltr

Paul6437
06-18-2006, 11:37 AM
This thead doen't have the latest information regaurding the 1500mah battery for the Garmin. Please read this thread:

http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66031

for the latest information.

Thank you for your interest.

Paul

dlynch
06-19-2006, 05:20 PM
Paul,

Doing good!! Thank you for providing the service.

A tank of gas costs $50, a carton of cancer sticks costs $50, a cheap dinner for two costs $50. I cheap night at the casino is $50. A repair on my kids IPOD that he dropped is $50.

A source to upgrade the battery on my old but wonderful Ique 3600, that has better functions than machines costing twice to three times as much, is priceless (and a good value at $30 plus shipping).

...

My thought too. I also have an ipaq with Garmin gps 10. Battery life was dreadful! I bought an extended life battery (2X) for the ipaq for a little more. Then I couldn't use my thumb board and case and...

Paul's fix is much appreciated. I like the fact that I can continue to use all the accessories that came with my factory reconditioned 3600.

Thanks Paul! I ordered a battery from you, but I'm computer challenged. I hope that all went well...

Dave L
Toronto

RECS
06-19-2006, 05:27 PM
Just repeating what I posted on the other thread for this battery...

Well, I received my battery today and just wanted to say thanks! My iQue was literally dead! The second I would disconnect it from the cradle or the car bean bag, it would die and start resetting and then not have enough battery to complete the reset and stay stuck! It was the most annoying thing in the world!

I installed the battery and when I was done, I hit the power button and the iQue stood on longer than it has in a long while! Then I turned it off because the instruction, which are very detailed and got me through the job with ease, said to charge for 3 hours.

So thanks to this forum and to Paul my iQue is back to life! Thanks a million!

p.s. Without a doubt, this is the most justified $30.00 I've spent in a loooong time!

Ron Correa

ursh
06-21-2006, 04:47 PM
Well, got the battery a couple of days ago, installed it yesterday, and other than having a bit of a hard time with that %$# scroll wheel it went well.
Many thanks, Paul. The pack arrived in 3-4 days (even though I'm in Montreal, QC...). It works great, and I can actually use the GPS without the car adaptor now!
Best,
Uri

Paul6437
06-22-2006, 06:48 AM
Well, got the battery a couple of days ago, installed it yesterday, and other than having a bit of a hard time with that %$# scroll wheel it went well.
Many thanks, Paul. The pack arrived in 3-4 days (even though I'm in Montreal, QC...). It works great, and I can actually use the GPS without the car adaptor now!
Best,
Uri

Hmmm, I see some people are still having trouble with the jog wheel. When you unscrew the main board, lift up a little on the bottom of the board by the palm connector. Then pull the board slighty downward, about 1/8" Then tilt the board up on the right side (still by holding the palm connector) (opposite the side of the job wheel). Then slide the board to the right (hence, sliding the jog wheel out of the slot) and put the board out of your way. Just reverse the process putting the board back.

Paul

hoskme
07-26-2006, 12:04 PM
I changed the battery in my iQue 3600 for the second time last night. The first time, I had replaced the dead original battery with one of the same size and shape from Laptops for Less. No problem that time, but about a week after the battery swap, the GPS died. The unit was off warranty so I had to pay for a replacement from Raytech, the Canadian repair center. (sorry, I can't remember how much I paid for the replacement - something like $200) They were kind enough to remove the L-f-L battery and give it to me.

The replacement unit had the same low-life battery as the original, and after a couple of months of getting by with it I decided to swap in the laptops-for-less battery. Alas, I did not notice the backlight cable and this time tore it right off. This morning I managed to effect a repair by scraping the plastic off the cable and carefully soldering wires scavenged from the dead battery. A technique I learned from an electronics technician worked very well here: tin both the wire and the newly bared copper strip, then tack them together with a touch from a fine-point soldering iron. I'm fortunate to have a good temperature controlled soldering iron, though I would have liked a finer tip.

Next on the agenda will be to get one of Paul's batteries. Laptops-for-Less will only ship Fedex Air, $30 shipping to Canada for a $30 battery. Unless you know someone in Anaheim who can pick one up, forget it. No idea what the capacity is, but it looks identical to the original Garmin battery.

Maybe with Paul's battery, the Garmin will be useful for more than a car-mounted navigation device.

Mike Hoskinson

Paul6437
07-26-2006, 12:26 PM
A battery shipped to Canada will be $35 (yes, and shipping IS included in that price)

dlynch
07-26-2006, 07:38 PM
I've bought 2 batteries from Paul. both arrived in just a few days.

My first one I had to pay gst and such...small price to pay extending the battery life, which my 3600 desparately needed.

My second came just as quickly. It was delivered tax free!

I paid much more for the extended life battery I needed for my ipaq (for gps use).

I'm really impressed with the cost and quality of service provided here.

thanks Paul.

Dave

PS--2 separate purchases. I'm cautious! The 3600 is so good that I don't want to have to replace it just because of poor battery life with the factory battery.

Paul6437
07-27-2006, 02:08 PM
Stock Status: Only 59 left! as of 7/27 3:00 pm

Statsman
07-27-2006, 02:40 PM
I also bought 2 from Paul - today. Should arrive early next week. Can't wait.

Thanks Paul

suzyq1225
07-29-2006, 08:37 AM
i would be interested in having you replace the battery in my 3600
its version 2.02; is that a problem
will i still be able to use my original cradle to charge?
can i pay extra and have it overnighted back to me.
please respond to my email address as well as here
[email]suzyq1225@aol.com

RemaxRalph
07-29-2006, 11:59 AM
Paul. I want to send you the Ique to replace the battery. Thanks

digitaldog
07-31-2006, 11:45 PM
Paul. I ordered two batteries last week and it arrived today (Toronto). Installed it as per directions and everything when off without a hitch.

Fast delivery!!

Thanks again.

sammo38
08-01-2006, 08:51 AM
paul i sent a payment to you on the 20th July any chance you could update me on delivery
thanks

Paul6437
08-01-2006, 09:16 AM
paul i sent a payment to you on the 20th July any chance you could update me on delivery
thanks

You have a PM.

RemaxRalph
08-01-2006, 07:46 PM
Sent my ique 3600 today USPS Priority. Can't wait for new battery.

Statsman
08-02-2006, 08:38 AM
Paul. I ordered two batteries last week and they arrived yesterday. Looking forward to installation, hopefully no jog wheel sproing.

Fast delivery!!

Thanks again.

Paul6437
08-02-2006, 03:56 PM
Only 29 left as of 8/2 @ 4:30pm

sync
08-04-2006, 05:22 PM
Since you installed a new battery for me several months ago I had not been using my Garmin car cradle until recently. In the last week I did use the cradle twice and both times the battery did not charge. It actually discharged significantly while in the crade. Could this be due to the new battery?

Paul6437
08-05-2006, 07:29 PM
Since you installed a new battery for me several months ago I had not been using my Garmin car cradle until recently. In the last week I did use the cradle twice and both times the battery did not charge. It actually discharged significantly while in the crade. Could this be due to the new battery?

Does it charge with the charging pin? Does the LED light go on when in the cradle and when charging with the power pin?

Paul

drtomasso
08-06-2006, 02:00 AM
Since you installed a new battery for me several months ago I had not been using my Garmin car cradle until recently. In the last week I did use the cradle twice and both times the battery did not charge. It actually discharged significantly while in the crade. Could this be due to the new battery?

The connector that plugs into the lighter socket came undone on my car cradle. It's only held together by one plastic nut (black) and it wriggled its way loose. Issues: itemittent no charging (no green light); no sound thru speaker (or iQue); sometimes quick discharge needing a recharge from the PC cradle and a hot synch.

Re-assembled the plug (checked the fuse was OK) and everything back to normal.

I'd check that. Espec if you don't get sound and/or don't get green light.

T.

sync
08-06-2006, 10:23 AM
Does it charge with the charging pin? Does the LED light go on when in the cradle and when charging with the power pin?

Paul
Is the charging pin the small round one?

I do get a green light when it is in the cradle.

sync
08-06-2006, 10:24 AM
The connector that plugs into the lighter socket came undone on my car cradle. It's only held together by one plastic nut (black) and it wriggled its way loose. Issues: itemittent no charging (no green light); no sound thru speaker (or iQue); sometimes quick discharge needing a recharge from the PC cradle and a hot synch.

Re-assembled the plug (checked the fuse was OK) and everything back to normal.

I'd check that. Espec if you don't get sound and/or don't get green light.

T.
I'm getting sound and the green light.

sync
08-07-2006, 08:00 AM
I just remembered something else that occurred the last two times I used my car cradle. When I turned on the iQue again after having used it in the car, on both occassions it would not turn on without a soft reset.

Glenn Robertson
08-17-2006, 06:28 PM
Paul,

Another happy customer! Your battery arrived today ... installation took 30min, no problems thanks to the clear instructions and included tools ... iQue restored using Backup Buddy (what a great application) ... everything works great! Now looking forward to more use between battery recharge.

Thanks!


Glenn

Herc
08-18-2006, 12:17 PM
Paul,

Got the battery and the installation took about 20 minutes. Good instructions, and the included tools saved me a trip to Radio Shack.

Thanks, Shayne

Carl333
08-18-2006, 08:34 PM
Hi Paul,

Just received your battery after a few days from the order date. Thanks for the easy transation.

My warrenty RMA iQue is a month old and the battery appears to be holding out for now. This is mt 4th in less than a year due to battery issues. While my unit is still under warrenty, I'll keep the battery in cold storage until the warrenty expires, then do the switch.

I've read so many positives results from your battery and tempted to install right now but I'll wait.

To other iQue 3600 users out there, I would buy a battery as a back-up as I did and just sit on it until yours starts to wear down. A plug for Paul yes, he deserves it. He's helped so many in this forum.

Tom P.
08-18-2006, 09:18 PM
I just got my iQue in May but couldn't wait for my warranty to expire before installing the 1500 mah battery from Paul. The improvement is beyond belief. I cannot kill this battery. It goes and goes. Best update you can do for Betty.

Paul6437
08-19-2006, 06:09 PM
Thank you all for the positive feedback!

shiffman
05-23-2007, 02:41 PM
If you want to upgrade your iQue 3600 battery to a 1500mah battery, I can change it for you for $30 (battery included), plus shipping. The battery needs to be modified slightly, but works with no problems. If your iQue is out of warrenty, and don't want to go the Garmin battery replacement method for $50, and you really won't even be sure you get your exact unit you sent in back, then this is a good option for you. Any questions, opinions? And, yes, I have one of these batteries installed in my iQue, and it is working great! If you feel you want replace the battery on your own, than that great also, it's easy to wire the battery to make it work.
You still doing battety replacements. Mine's way past due. Please email at shiffman@pinneyassociates.com

Thanks

Paul6437
05-25-2007, 08:37 AM
Yes, still doing battery replacements. Email sent.

Paul

davefabik
06-01-2007, 11:41 AM
Paul---
I tried replacing the battery in my iQue 3600 a year or so ago and messed up the thumb wheel switch. I've got a new "refurbished" 3600 and would like to have you replace my battery with a higher capacity one if you would (for the aforementioned $30).

What is my next step?

Paul6437
06-04-2007, 06:52 AM
Paul---
I tried replacing the battery in my iQue 3600 a year or so ago and messed up the thumb wheel switch. I've got a new "refurbished" 3600 and would like to have you replace my battery with a higher capacity one if you would (for the aforementioned $30).

What is my next step?

Email me at ForSeriousSounds (at) aol (dot) com.

GPSUSER234
11-13-2007, 06:04 AM
http://www.pdainternalbattery.com/1a2w423c2install.html