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tollmtn
03-26-2006, 04:08 PM
I have loaded v.5.2. 1r4 does it correct the loss of voice files or do you still need the patch that stores voice files to a sd card. I noticed the patch was aimed at version 3 so didn't want to download it if you couldn't use it or didn't need it with V3.
Thanks FJM
torisboy
03-27-2006, 09:08 PM
I may be way off on this but I contacted Garmin for the problem. They instructed me to install the set up disk and install program ( voice) I did it and all was resolved.
tollmtn
03-29-2006, 12:56 PM
There is a download on garmins web downloads that stores the voice files to an SD card so you can restore voice without your PC. It mentions you need v5.2. lr3 to work I have lr4 installed on my 3600 an want to know if I still need the voice files on a SD card.
RBEmerson
04-10-2006, 11:48 PM
I tried the voice backup app but, for the life of me, I have no idea how to do a restore. I had thoughts of loading the US files, backing them up to my SD, installing the German files for use in (surprise!) Germany, with the idea of restoring back to the English files on my return. I gave up and used the DVD instead.
iQueRMA
04-11-2006, 07:13 AM
It might be wise to have a general backup application that saves all your data to the SD card. That way you'll be covered regardless of what files get erased or corrupted. If you haven't experienced a hard reset yet you may in the future and will be greatful you have that backup application.
RBEmerson
04-13-2006, 09:10 AM
True, but backups are sort of a loss if you can't do a restore, too, and that's the situation I find myself in.
iQueRMA
04-13-2006, 09:52 AM
The backup application has the restore option otherwise it would be pretty useless. I'm guessing you don't have a backup application. I've done numerous hard resets in the past and full restores without the need for a PC.
tollmtn
04-13-2006, 12:17 PM
The backup application has the restore option otherwise it would be pretty useless. I'm guessing you don't have a backup application. I've done numerous hard resets in the past and full restores without the need for a PC.
In almost 2 months now with the V.5.2. 1R4 download I havent had a crash. But it is most likely only a matter of time. I know it would be time consuming But could you explain in some detail Just what you stored to card, how you did it, how to use it,and the size of card needed for a dedicated back up card. Or if you know of a link that explains the procedure that would do.
Thanks in advance FJM
RBEmerson
04-13-2006, 01:17 PM
The backup application has the restore option otherwise it would be pretty useless. I'm guessing you don't have a backup application. I've done numerous hard resets in the past and full restores without the need for a PC.
Uh, I don't think we're talking about the same apps. Garmin's Voice Guidance Backup has no menu functions and ignores all taps on menu hotspots. All it does, AFAIK, is write stuff to the SD chip. How it's supposed to be restored, if Betty gets laryngitis, escapes me. As to a general backup to an SD chip, what app???
rlwetzel
04-13-2006, 05:11 PM
The directions on the Garmin web site state "When used with Release 3, the voice guidance files stored on the card will automatically be restored if they are not present on the device." Anyone want to be a alpha tester and see if it restores "automatically" with R4?
iQueRMA
04-13-2006, 06:23 PM
True, we may not be talking about the same "backup application". I'm not referring to Garmin's voice backup application. I'm referring to a true backup application that backs up everything from RAM onto your SD card. So, if your iQue ever crashes and loses everything or you purposely perform a hard reset you can quickly and easily restore ALL your files back to RAM. I use BackupBuddyVFS from Blue Nomad but there are other programs available. To perform a complete backup all I need to do is execute the application and tap on the Backup icon. To perform a full restore I just tap on the Restore option. You could also selectively backup or restore individual files. I also have it setup to automatically perform a nightly backup at a preset time. The application will turn the iQue on perform a backup then power off based on my preset time to turn off. This application has saved me many times. It even helps when I get a new/refurbished unit because of a RMA. Of course the detailed maps need to be reinstalled because of the unit having a different serial number but everything else works perfectly.
RBEmerson
04-13-2006, 07:02 PM
The directions on the Garmin web site state "When used with Release 3, the voice guidance files stored on the card will automatically be restored if they are not present on the device." Anyone want to be a alpha tester and see if it restores "automatically" with R4?
Y'know, I can't quite figure out what triggers the restore. I smoked the voice files and nothing happened (r4). All in all, I'm not overwhelmed with this one. :rolleyes:
iQueRMA
04-13-2006, 07:25 PM
What happens if you try running the voice backup application with all the voice files gone? I'm just wondering if maybe by not having the voice files in RAM and running the backup program might trigger the restore.
RBEmerson
04-13-2006, 08:51 PM
Beats me. Give it a shot and let us know what happens - we'll watch with interest.:D
iQueRMA
04-13-2006, 08:59 PM
You're already part way there. Didn't you say you smoked the voice files already?
RBEmerson
04-13-2006, 09:50 PM
Yep, and it triggered no response. So I did the clever thing and reloaded the voice prompts from the iQue distro DVD.
iQueRMA
04-14-2006, 07:05 AM
RBEmerson, thanks for trying anyway.
RBEmerson
04-14-2006, 08:20 AM
You see the problem - it seems as though I put the iQue in a state where a recovery should have been triggered and nothing happened. One of these days I'll try noodging Garmin about this, I guess.
iQueRMA
04-14-2006, 09:28 AM
I deleted all the voice files from RAM and it did not automatically restore the files. Instead I had to use a file manager program to copy all the voice files from the voice backup folder on the SD card back into RAM. So there doesn't seem to be any automatic trigger for a self restore.
iQueRMA
04-14-2006, 09:39 AM
I decided to remove the Garmin's voice backup program since it didn't provide anything extra over my general backup program that backs up everything in RAM.
RBEmerson
04-14-2006, 09:48 AM
Which prompts my original question, what good is this program if it doesn't seem to have a restore component, or at least an obviously invoked restore function?
iQueRMA
04-14-2006, 10:01 AM
I guess the program would be useful if 1) you have a file manager on your iQue to restore the files and 2) you don't have another backup application installed already.
RBEmerson
04-14-2006, 06:08 PM
Just so...
Brian-in-NJ
01-21-2007, 12:49 PM
I have an iQue 3600 and use a Mac. I lost my voice prompts and was able to recopy them on the Mac by using the Set-Up Disk and then extracting the Voice files from the Data1.cab files using File Juicer and then I used Missing Sync to load the files back onto the iQue. install the files on the iQue. Works like a charm and didn't need to use a PC. I used the files in the pdb file (also had files pdb1 through pdb10 as well) as I guessed these would be English and they had the correct names (0001.vpm.pdb through 0131.vpm.pdb plus 4 other files). Betty is back and barking directions to me as we speak. Thanks to everyone for putting me in the right direction to get this done as my PC isn't currently running as I need to reinstall the WinXP on it from a crash I had.
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