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windowbay
12-03-2002, 05:10 PM
My pda is the Diamond Mako. I am a very simple-minded user. This unit has more memory than my old Sharp Wizard s and is smaller, so I have become comfortable with it and have begun to use it more. Lately I created folders for Spreadsheets, Word Documents, and DataFiles. My opening screen (labeled "Internal")shows folder icons for the three items listed above, followed by program icons for Agenda, Jotter, and Phone. The Contacts icon has disappeared. Fortunately, the Contacts program and data come up promptly and completely when I tap the permanent Contacts icon at the bottom. However, I believe that the Contacts icon should be back on the screen. The System\Browse Folders screen, likewise, does not show the Contacts icon. The data links to the Phone application OK. Everything seems to be working OK, except for the disappearance of the Contacts icon.

I read the exchange re: Contacts problem as posted by LintyLynn and, I cannot associate the solution with my unit. My system screen indicates the directory for Agenda C:\Agenda and for Jotter C:\Jotter, but lists only Contacts without any association with the C:\ drive. I am an admitted dummy where things like this are concerned, and unable to correct the problem. The solution that helped LintyLynn doesn't seem applicable to me in that I cannot see any .ini file, or any way to edit the program file name. Can anyone out there give me a hand after you stop laughing? Thanks.

diem
12-03-2002, 05:22 PM
Are you certain there ever was an icon for Contacts in the location you mention?

I say this because the icons you mention for Agenda and Jotter are actually the default data files for each of these applications, not the applications themselves. Contacts are stored in C:\System\Data\Contacts.cdb, which is why you don't see an icon in C:\Documents.

The next thing you will say is "I haven't got a Documents or System folder". Tap the menu icon at the top-left of the screen, then go Tools.. Preferences.. On the window that comes up, tick the Show 'System' folder option. You can now double-tap the open folder icon at the top-left of the view. You'll now see Documents and System; you've just browsed up out of the Documents folder.

Hope this makes sense.

windowbay
12-03-2002, 08:03 PM
Thanks for a quick response and some cogent information. I did find the way to tick the Show System file as you guided me. I am an older guy who cannot always trust his memory (even short term... that's why I rely on this pda), so, I am embarassed to say, I am not absolutely sure that there was a Contacts icon on the opening desktop. I thought there had been, but don't see one depicted in the Mako manual, so maybe I made it up. I do see the Contacts icon on the screen at the System\Apps\Contact\Contact.ini location, so such an icon does exist, but whether it was on the desktop I cannot swear. I would happily accept the opinion that there was no Contacts icon on the desktop, ever, with corroborating substantiation. That reads as if I am unappreciative, or disbelieving, of your kind and helpful information and instruction, and I really don't intend to give that impression. It's rather a habit some of us have been taught to solicit the proverbial "second opinion." (You know the joke that goes with that... the doctor says to the patient who has suggested he wants a second opinion, "OK, you're also ugly.")

In my case, the observation should be that I am also ignorant. Thank you for staying up late and delaying your sleep so that my concerns can be put to rest. I will assume that the matter was a non-issue "tempest in a teapot" that came from inadequate knowledge and observation on my part, and seek no further clarification.

With sincere appreciation and kindest regards. Happy Holidays!

Windowbay

netBookBabe
12-03-2002, 09:55 PM
Hi windowbay

Here's your second opinion!

Firstly, if you're fortunate to receive advice from diem, then take it, it will be good! ;)

Secondly, I do think that "Contacts" can be quite confusing - it's a little bit separate from the rest of the apps, in my opinion. You shouldn't expect to see an icon for it within your Documents folder. It might help to think of it purely as your electronic phone book, sitting in the background, and as such you keep just one file with all addresses and numbers of your friends, relatives and business contacts. It becomes very useful if you wish to use e-mail from your Mako, as it links in nicely with the e-mail app, providing addresses from its database.

The "Data" application (although it looks a bit similar) is somewhat different - Data allows you more flexibility in terms of records you would like to keep, so you can have separate files for your CD collection, your wine cellar, or contents of your personal art gallery! Therefore, within your "Documents" folder you would see the data icon three times with the labels "CDs", "Wine" and "Gallery", for example. Double-tapping on any one of those document icons will launch the Data application and take you straight to the particular file you selected. The same would apply to documents created in other apps, such as Word and Sheet.

I hope that might add a little bit of clarification. Anyhow, don't worry about Contacts - nothing's wrong. ;)

Julie

windowbay
12-03-2002, 10:41 PM
I extend my sincere appreciation and thanks to both of you beacons of knowledge. I am chagrined to be so uninformed in some areas of learning, and, worse, to be so casual in my observation as to have imagined a concern that is obviously unreal.

The information you individually, and jointly, have provided to me, and the authority of your response makes me feel almost flattered by your attention, as well as assures me that nothing is wrong with my pda, though it suggests to me that my own natural between-the-ears apparatus may be experiencing diminuition. There may be justification to a description of my "hemispheric grey matter convolution."

With gratitude for your speedy responses, for your reserve in treating my question as if it were legitimately serious, and for refraining from figuratively placing me on the stool in the corner with my back to the class and the conical crown on my confused haircut holder, and for restraining the urge to learn which of two disparate valued coins I would take if offered my choice, I humbly and sincerely thank you each, and together, for solving my imagined problem, and for assuring me that the sky is, in fact, not falling.

My best wishes to each of you for happy holidays, sufficient figgy pudding (if one is to believe the urgency of the carol), and wondrous wassail, while I gratefully extend to each of you my admiration and kindest regards.

Your technically deprived subject,

windowbay

diem
12-04-2002, 03:33 AM
:D

Thanks windowbay, that's the most effusive, erudite and amusing thanks I've ever received. Ta muchly for making me crack my first smile of the day.

:D

windowbay
12-04-2002, 08:19 AM
I hoped I might be able to express my appreciation for your help in a way that showed my sincerity, yet provided at least as much amusement as my sincere ignorance presented in my initial perceived problem posting. I fear that query already may have entered this week's Chart of Chuckles at number 14 ("with a bullet", as they say in Billboard and Cashbox magazines).

Again, I thank you for your assessment and assurance to me that there is no problem with my Diamond Mako Revo. The court will hear the evidence (or, more likely in my case, consider the lack of evidence) in the matter of my competence at some future date.

I must go! It appears to me that some grains of sand are suddenly missing from the beachfront, and I must sound the alarm!

Your imperceptive friend.

windowbay

netBookBabe
12-04-2002, 03:00 PM
Thanks, windowbay - you made my day too! :) It's a pleasant change to find someone actually making good use of the English language to express themselves, in comparison to the appalling spelling, poor grammar and careless typing that all too frequently we have to tolerate.

Rest assured, you are not the first person to ask this type of question, and you certainly will not be the last! Personally, I would not be here at all if I were not prepared to assist new users with their first steps on the Psion adventure.

I'm also rather looking forward to the next question! :D

Julie

windowbay
12-04-2002, 10:15 PM
Dear Julie and Diem:

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Now you and Diem have added another intellectual influence from England to my rather simple life here in the corn fields of Iowa and Illinois on the Mississippi River in the American Heartland. Can this be a gathering trend? If so, long may it wave! I enthusiastically add my own Basso Profundo to those who shout, "Three Cheers" for the spirit and accomplishment of the work you folks do on this terrific website!

Kindest regards to all.

windowbay
aka Donald Pearson
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